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World Cup 2010 The Draw is here!

#301 Gothos

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 07:01 AM

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.

#302 Slick Mongoose

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:52 AM

Sombra, on 24 June 2010 - 08:51 PM, said:

Slick Mongoose, on 24 June 2010 - 05:20 PM, said:

champooon, on 24 June 2010 - 07:38 AM, said:

this World Cup is working out like World War 2, France have forfeited, USA turned up late and England are left to fight Ze Germans!!

And the Italians have been taken out early.

Well.

Well, well, well ...

Just as long as the USA doesn't end up dominating for the next 60 years with Russia as their biggest rivals for 40 of them, before China replaces Russia.

The Danes collapsed without resistance.

Sweden are sitting it out but secretly supporting the Germans.

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#303 polishgenius

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 11:29 AM

@Gothos, Dave Henson is gold... have you seen his other songs? The Vuvuzela song is good and all, but I think his best is still what brought him to attention, his reaction to Leicester losing in the playoffs:

A song for Yann Kermorgant.

Not really relevant to this topic but hey ho.

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#304 Tsundoku

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 02:42 PM

Watching Brasil v Portugal, and it was illuminating to see that a ridiculously blatant handball by Juan at almost the last line of defence (Brasil) rates a yellow. We all know what would have happened if it was an Aussie or another 2nd-3rd rank side ...

And yes I am aware of the difference between in the field and "denying a goal", but blatantly deliberate handball is blatantly deliberate handball, whereas accidental shoulder/upper bicep ball is something else.

EDIT: Melo (Brasil) just got taken off by his coach after a pretty crude challenge. Any more of that and it would have been red card time and 10 men. Smart move by the coach.

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#305 Tiste Simeon

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 05:38 PM

What a pants game that was...Brazil and Portugal just didn't care... Should have had the Ivory Coast game on instead...

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#306 KalamMekhar

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 05:52 PM

i was really hoping to be able to watch a replay fo a good game when i got home from work, but that does not seem to be the case with the Brazil and Port game. no goals? i mean really? did brazil just not care of did port play good D and their goalie was on? or was it really both sides werent putting much effort into it? sad sad sad.

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#307 Thelomen Toblerone

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:12 PM

Both sides knew a goal would be enough, and wanted to rest players for the next game. Predictable, really.

#308 Tsundoku

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 02:01 AM

Brasil v Portugal was simply a training run for both teams. Maybe FIFA should hand back the money to those in the stands because they obviously didn't see a genuinely competitive match, which was what they paid to see.

Unfortunately I was way too tired to finish watching Chile v Spain, but what I did see was great fun. Chile was really taking it to Spain, running their absolute legs off and giving 100% all over the field.

A pity about the result, but at least Chile got through. They went all out even though they didn't really have to, although adding Spain to early exits by France and Italy would have been sweet.

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#309 Tiste Simeon

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 08:43 AM

Yeah Chile have really been the only consistently interesting and exciting team to watch so far...

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#310 Shinrei

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 10:43 AM

Both Japan and the US are through. Couldn't ask for anything more, really.

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#311 polishgenius

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 01:05 PM

Sombra, on 26 June 2010 - 02:01 AM, said:

The last 20 minutes were a complete farce, so if that's what you missed then don't worry about it... The last ten minutes pretty much involved Spain practicing their passing with Chile practicing their standing around.

Up till then it was great though. Chile are great and I hope they beat the rather boring Brazil. But they won't, because they don't score anywhere near enough goals for all their silky play and couldn't defend a counter-attack for all the nukes in North Korea, so yeah...

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#312 Thelomen Toblerone

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 05:56 PM

I hope that red card gets rescinded though, that was ridiculous. Torres should be ashamed of himself. And I speak as an Arsenal fan, so I have huge experience of being ashamed of your players diving.

#313 HoosierDaddy

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 07:20 PM

Uggggghhhhhh. U-G-L-Y you ain't got no alibi US is ugly. Terrible football by US, Ghana look fantastic though.

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#314 polishgenius

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 08:20 PM

Thelomen Toblerone, on 26 June 2010 - 05:56 PM, said:

I hope that red card gets rescinded though, that was ridiculous. Torres should be ashamed of himself. And I speak as an Arsenal fan, so I have huge experience of being ashamed of your players diving.

Being fair, he was clipped, his heel bounced off the Estrada's knee which is why he clipped himself. Was completely accidental though and the contact definitely didn't warrant staying down.

On the other hand, not only him but other Chile players could easily have been a sent off. So unfair as that one was they can't really complain too vociferously.
Was it Vidal who stamped on Torres' shin while getting up at one point? That was a straight red if the red saw it.

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#315 HoosierDaddy

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 08:22 PM

I'm going to have a heart attack.

#316 HoosierDaddy

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 08:42 PM

3 goals given up within 5 minutes after a whistle blows the start of play. Seriouisly, wtf? Long-ball works against the US. Hah.

#317 Tiste Simeon

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 09:09 PM

Reports show that interest in football in the US has dropped from 100% to about 3% again in the last 5 minutes. See you again in four years.

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#318 HoosierDaddy

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 09:11 PM

Oh, I can guarantee that 100% is completely off as well. Maybe 50% had some interest and we were in the knock-out rounds. Soccer goes back to being behind NFL, MLB, NBA, College Football, College Basketball, and Hockey.

#319 Tiste Simeon

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 09:19 PM

I understand it, I mean watching a game for 45 minutes without adverts?? Shocking...

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#320 HoosierDaddy

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 09:23 PM

People like the sports they grow up with, and it'll take a long time, if ever, for it to supplant the others. I think at times it's more important than hockey, but it's arguable. The others just have such a massive head-start.

As for ads, we play them in non-World Cup games (MLS, Qualifiers, etc) with a 50/50 screen split. Not a lot, but it happens 4 to 5 times a half. The only station that doesn't is Fox Soccer Channel when it's playing Euro league games.