[Dolmen 2.0]

Tattersail_, on 25 February 2018 - 09:22 PM, said:

Hitler is meant to look the most liberal. He's not meant to look Fascist.

Drek picking a fascist policy ensured we'd both look fascist.

Similar with Nevyn/Nom. Nom had previously picked a liberal policy did he not?

Either way one of them look fascist.

So now 4 people look fascist. That has left us picking out of the 4 remaining. Perfect place for Hitler to hide because he can be picked Chancellor.

That, I think, is what the smart players like Drek and Nevyn have created.

Now Nevyn also has cast shade at Cause. Making him possible fascist.

So who do we have left.

Messremb, Venge and Dolmen.

ALL THE REST HAVE BEEN CREATED TO LOOK FASCIST.

So if I am to believe Nevyn and Drek are fascist then in my eyes I have Nom and Cause as the only Liberals.

Picking the two Liberals out of the VPHs is tough.

Venge looks liberal. He passed two liberal policies onto Nom.

Mess has passed two liberal policies and one fascist.

Dolmen gave Mess one of each but has not had opportunity to pass a fascist policy.

I think we've lost. Its not clear AT ALL.

Venge passed two liberal on to me and remains the most likely liberal in game. Messremb has also been fairly consistent, both are less likely to be playing for team Fascist than Tatts/d’rek and Nevyn/Nom. I cannot understand the term created to look fascist?

Is this what you call fascists throwing shade?

If so then No creating can be possible across the board. if Hitler wants to look Liberal at all costs then by your reasoning only 2 pairs of the 3 pairs involved in fascist policy are fascist. Messremb and Venge are the only set not contradicting one another so as has been the case theres no shade being thrown here.

[Vengeance]

Sorry I had a 6yr old birthday party today. I was handed 2 fascists policies.

[Macros]

A fascist policy has been enacted.

With need to check what this means

[Cause]

Can someone beside Nevyn confirm for me the current card mix. What are the odds of 3 fascists cards being drawn in a row during Messrembs turn and during subsequent turns?

Also just to confirm, when you receive say 3 fascists policies, they are all the same right. Its the number of fascists policies passed that grant the powers not the policy. They are all just generic 'fascist policy' or 'liberal policy' no wildcards

This post has been edited by Cause: 26 February 2018 - 08:30 AM

[Maark Abbott]

Non-participating but can I just say the populace are not very happy with where this government is going and are going to blockade your parliament tomorrow.

[Cause]

Maark Abbott, on 26 February 2018 - 08:50 AM, said:

Non-participating but can I just say the populace are not very happy with where this government is going and are going to blockade your parliament tomorrow.

I'm a liberal but I aint a hippee! Anarchy will not be tolerated. The Mob may vote once every 5 years where we will consider their voices against the donations made by big oil, little oil, the NRA and various other donors of consequence.

[Itwæs Nom]

Maark Abbott, on 26 February 2018 - 08:50 AM, said:

Non-participating but can I just say the populace are not very happy with where this government is going and are going to blockade your parliament tomorrow.

Stop teasing us

[D'rek]

Itwæs Nom, on 25 February 2018 - 10:01 PM, said:

D'rek whats your thoughts?

I think Tatts has gone off the rails and it's hilarious.

Other than that I'm pretty cornered into uselessness at the moment so just going through the motions until this thing finally ends.

[Vengeance]

Cause, on 26 February 2018 - 08:23 AM, said:

Can someone beside Nevyn confirm for me the current card mix. What are the odds of 3 fascists cards being drawn in a row during Messrembs turn and during subsequent turns?

Also just to confirm, when you receive say 3 fascists policies, they are all the same right. Its the number of fascists policies passed that grant the powers not the policy. They are all just generic 'fascist policy' or 'liberal policy' no wildcards

Yes. You are just told you have 2 fascits policies. Or if you are president, 'You have 2 liberal and 1 fascists policy in front of you what do you choose'. The policies themselves don't do anything.

[Nevyn]

Cause, on 26 February 2018 - 08:23 AM, said:

Can someone beside Nevyn confirm

Geez, you call a guy a fascist one time and they take it all personally ....

[Cause]

Nevyn, on 26 February 2018 - 02:02 PM, said:

Cause, on 26 February 2018 - 08:23 AM, said:

Can someone beside Nevyn confirm

Geez, you call a guy a fascist one time and they take it all personally ....

Well its that I cant trust you.

[Nevyn]

Even if I were a fascist I wouldn't lie about rules and deck composition to a bunch of new players. That would basically be cheating.

To answer the overall question, there were 3 liberal and 9 fascist left. So there is a 3/12 + 3/11 + 3/10 = 82% chance of at least one liberal policy being in the 3 cards drawn. As I said, we were unlucky.

But on the plus side, the odds look great for finding liberal policies on the next 2 governments.

This post has been edited by Nevyn: 26 February 2018 - 02:53 PM

[Tattersail_]

Nevyn, on 26 February 2018 - 02:48 PM, said:

Even if I were a fascist I wouldn't lie about rules and deck composition to a bunch of new players. That would basically be cheating.

To answer the overall question, there were 3 liberal and 9 fascist left. So there is a 3/12 + 3/11 + 3/10 = 82% chance of at least one liberal policy being in the 3 cards drawn. As I said, we were unlucky.

But on the plus side, the odds look great for finding liberal policies on the next 2 governments.

Which should be me then Venge imo

[Nevyn]

Tattersail_, on 26 February 2018 - 03:10 PM, said:

Nevyn, on 26 February 2018 - 02:48 PM, said:

Even if I were a fascist I wouldn't lie about rules and deck composition to a bunch of new players. That would basically be cheating.

To answer the overall question, there were 3 liberal and 9 fascist left. So there is a 3/12 + 3/11 + 3/10 = 82% chance of at least one liberal policy being in the 3 cards drawn. As I said, we were unlucky.

But on the plus side, the odds look great for finding liberal policies on the next 2 governments.

Which should be me then Venge imo

Why on earth would it be you?

Next pres should be Venge via special election power.

[Tattersail_]

Nevyn, on 26 February 2018 - 03:12 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 26 February 2018 - 03:10 PM, said:

Nevyn, on 26 February 2018 - 02:48 PM, said:

Even if I were a fascist I wouldn't lie about rules and deck composition to a bunch of new players. That would basically be cheating.

To answer the overall question, there were 3 liberal and 9 fascist left. So there is a 3/12 + 3/11 + 3/10 = 82% chance of at least one liberal policy being in the 3 cards drawn. As I said, we were unlucky.

But on the plus side, the odds look great for finding liberal policies on the next 2 governments.

Which should be me then Venge imo

Why on earth would it be you?

Next pres should be Venge via special election power.

In normal order, I mean. I understand why special election must be Venge but next two possible Presidents are D'rek and Dolmen, no thanks.

[Cause]

Nevyn, on 26 February 2018 - 02:48 PM, said:

Even if I were a fascist I wouldn't lie about rules and deck composition to a bunch of new players. That would basically be cheating.

To answer the overall question, there were 3 liberal and 9 fascist left. So there is a 3/12 + 3/11 + 3/10 = 82% chance of at least one liberal policy being in the 3 cards drawn. As I said, we were unlucky.

But on the plus side, the odds look great for finding liberal policies on the next 2 governments.

That is not how probability works. Because by that logic 9/12 + 8/11 + 7/10 = 220 % chance of drawing 3 fascist policies. Its not misleading to play the game to win which your obviously doing. And your obviously trying to confuse the others.

I believe the probability of drawing 3 fascist policies is 9/12 * 8/11 * 7/10 = 0.75 * 0.72 * 0.70 = 40% So it was a 60% chance to draw at least one liberal.

So is the next round assuming Messremb told the truth 3 liberals and 6 fascists? Or will it still be a shuffle of 3 liberals and 8 fascists?

This post has been edited by Cause: 26 February 2018 - 04:22 PM

[Nevyn]

Cause, on 26 February 2018 - 04:09 PM, said:

Nevyn, on 26 February 2018 - 02:48 PM, said:

Even if I were a fascist I wouldn't lie about rules and deck composition to a bunch of new players. That would basically be cheating.

To answer the overall question, there were 3 liberal and 9 fascist left. So there is a 3/12 + 3/11 + 3/10 = 82% chance of at least one liberal policy being in the 3 cards drawn. As I said, we were unlucky.

But on the plus side, the odds look great for finding liberal policies on the next 2 governments.

That is not how probability works. Because by that logic 9/12 + 8/11 + 7/10 = 220 % chance of drawing 3 fascist policies

actually it would be 9/12+9/11+9/10 but point taken.

I had it backwards. I should be 1 - (9/12 * 8/11 * 7/10). Or 1 - odds of 3 straight fascist. So 61.8% chance of at least one liberal policy.

Thought the 82 looked high. #mondays.

[Vengeance]

Ok if I understand everything correctly. If Mess uses his power to make me president. Then I will choose Dolman as my chancelor. Then if we get a liberal policy. Dolman will be president. Skipping Drek. Then we will be at the Dolman and Nyven point.

[Dolmen 2.0]

Vengeance, on 26 February 2018 - 04:47 PM, said:

Ok if I understand everything correctly. If Mess uses his power to make me president. Then I will choose Dolman as my chancelor. Then if we get a liberal policy. Dolman will be president. Skipping Drek. Then we will be at the Dolman and Nyven point.

Yes. Although would Mess not be Eligible by my turn if we take the special election route?

[Nevyn]

Yes he would.

That is part of what I was trying to explain earlier, Venge.