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#681 User is offline   Dolmen 2.0 

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Posted 24 February 2018 - 05:33 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 24 February 2018 - 05:13 PM, said:

View PostDolmen 2.0, on 24 February 2018 - 05:06 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 24 February 2018 - 04:59 PM, said:

Drek fascist.
Nevyn fascist.
One of Dolmen, Venge or Mess is Hitler.

Or its D'rek, Nom, and Cause.


And what do posts like this accomplish except summarize what we all know already and wholesale suspecting everyone for something?

If you want to convince anyone of anything you need to build it up with reasoning.

splitting the game into either/or accomplishes little.

what are you committing to? how does it inform your vote? that helps more than this.


No thanks. Not after your stupid post earlier. The one were you believe I'm fascist. No thanks. If you believe that then you think D'rek is Liberal which makes me laugh inside.

I'd say because of that post you know who your fascists are and are now in prime position.

Possible in my second scenario.

Drek and Nevyn fascist. Dolmen Hitler.

Cause clueless.


It is stupid because you claim me to believe something?

I never said I believe anything, you are leading.

I said I see you and Nom as a set interaction wise. What that makes D'rek is beyond me. again I am not overruling all three fascists could be responsible for the Fascist policies. Cause lied, Cause overlooked a liberal policy, Cause was placed under investigation and is allegedly found as fascist. You overlooking all this and saying Cause is clueless is stupid.

Track the smoke back to the gun.

You're still trying to frame brackets around everything and your creating reasons with words I did not use.

my opinion of you as fascist is reinforced.

Edit: accidentally wrote you instead of Cause. Corrected in red.

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Posted 24 February 2018 - 05:35 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 24 February 2018 - 05:14 PM, said:

Cause did we ever get a reason for your lie?


yes we did. You missing it may be why you're 'clueless'.
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Posted 25 February 2018 - 09:24 AM

Okay I forgot that Messremb passed 2 liberal policies. That does change my mind. Either liberal or an amazing sleeper gamer. The former is more. Likeky
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Posted 25 February 2018 - 09:32 AM

Votes are in.

Unanimous JA

Pming policies to president Messremb
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Posted 25 February 2018 - 10:03 AM

3 fascist. Sorry Venge
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Posted 25 February 2018 - 04:53 PM

Unfortunate, but it solves venges trusting me problem. Make him president , he adds dolmen. Then dolmen - you next. If we get 3 fascist again, kill cause or nom, and then only 3 steps back to venge.
Tatts early in SH game: Hmm, so if I'm liberal I should have voted Nein to make sure I'm president? I'm not that selfish

Tatts later in SAME game: I'm going to be a corrupt official. I have turned from my liberal ways, and now will vote against the pesky liberals. Viva la Fascism.
When Venge's turn comes, he will get a yes from Mess, Dolmen, Nevyn and Venge but a no from the 3 fascists and me. **** with my Government, and i'll **** with yours
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Posted 25 February 2018 - 05:34 PM

Can someone summarize what exactly is Nevyn trying to sell here? I can't be bothered reading it all knowing he's fascist
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Posted 25 February 2018 - 06:01 PM

Im sayong the three vpi players can control all the governments.

Go ahead, tell us why that is a bad idea
Tatts early in SH game: Hmm, so if I'm liberal I should have voted Nein to make sure I'm president? I'm not that selfish

Tatts later in SAME game: I'm going to be a corrupt official. I have turned from my liberal ways, and now will vote against the pesky liberals. Viva la Fascism.
When Venge's turn comes, he will get a yes from Mess, Dolmen, Nevyn and Venge but a no from the 3 fascists and me. **** with my Government, and i'll **** with yours
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Posted 25 February 2018 - 06:38 PM

Because they are VPHs not vpis.
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Posted 25 February 2018 - 07:11 PM

What is a vpi vph. Vpi is a good thing?
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Posted 25 February 2018 - 07:53 PM

VPI stands for Very Probably Innocent, VPH for VP Hitler
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Posted 25 February 2018 - 08:40 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 25 February 2018 - 06:38 PM, said:

Because they are VPHs not vpis.



So what exactly are you proposing?

I am proposing the 3 I know for a fact to be innocent (because 1 of you/Drek is guaranteed, Nom put in a fascist and I investigated Cause).

For the rest of you, every liberal policy weve passed has had one or both of them. And except for obvious fascist Cause, everyone else has a hand in at least one fascist policy.
Tatts early in SH game: Hmm, so if I'm liberal I should have voted Nein to make sure I'm president? I'm not that selfish

Tatts later in SAME game: I'm going to be a corrupt official. I have turned from my liberal ways, and now will vote against the pesky liberals. Viva la Fascism.
When Venge's turn comes, he will get a yes from Mess, Dolmen, Nevyn and Venge but a no from the 3 fascists and me. **** with my Government, and i'll **** with yours
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Posted 25 February 2018 - 08:55 PM

View PostNevyn, on 25 February 2018 - 08:40 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 25 February 2018 - 06:38 PM, said:

Because they are VPHs not vpis.



So what exactly are you proposing?

I am proposing the 3 I know for a fact to be innocent (because 1 of you/Drek is guaranteed, Nom put in a fascist and I investigated Cause).

For the rest of you, every liberal policy weve passed has had one or both of them. And except for obvious fascist Cause, everyone else has a hand in at least one fascist policy.

Don't believe you
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Posted 25 February 2018 - 08:57 PM

View PostNevyn, on 25 February 2018 - 08:40 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 25 February 2018 - 06:38 PM, said:

Because they are VPHs not vpis.



So what exactly are you proposing?

I am proposing the 3 I know for a fact to be innocent (because 1 of you/Drek is guaranteed, Nom put in a fascist and I investigated Cause).

For the rest of you, every liberal policy weve passed has had one or both of them. And except for obvious fascist Cause, everyone else has a hand in at least one fascist policy.


Pretty sure I didn't.

But according to Tatts and the rest that makes me VPH. So you also have that logic working for us.

Nom, Tatts, and Cause in a row on the thread. Has that happened before? Bold.

Anyways are we waiting for an action from Messremb?
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Posted 25 February 2018 - 09:03 PM

View PostDolmen 2.0, on 25 February 2018 - 08:57 PM, said:

View PostNevyn, on 25 February 2018 - 08:40 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 25 February 2018 - 06:38 PM, said:

Because they are VPHs not vpis.



So what exactly are you proposing?

I am proposing the 3 I know for a fact to be innocent (because 1 of you/Drek is guaranteed, Nom put in a fascist and I investigated Cause).

For the rest of you, every liberal policy weve passed has had one or both of them. And except for obvious fascist Cause, everyone else has a hand in at least one fascist policy.


Pretty sure I didn't.



You are one of the three i was calling vpi and tatts calling vegas vph. I meant outsode of you three everyone else on a gov has a hand in a fascist policy.

I suppose at this second you and cause are the only ones with no fascist policies, but venge is excused by mess and I absolutely believe mess got 3 fascist.
Tatts early in SH game: Hmm, so if I'm liberal I should have voted Nein to make sure I'm president? I'm not that selfish

Tatts later in SAME game: I'm going to be a corrupt official. I have turned from my liberal ways, and now will vote against the pesky liberals. Viva la Fascism.
When Venge's turn comes, he will get a yes from Mess, Dolmen, Nevyn and Venge but a no from the 3 fascists and me. **** with my Government, and i'll **** with yours
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Posted 25 February 2018 - 09:05 PM

As for waiting i believe vengeance has to officially submit his policy pm, we just already know the result thanks to mess.

Then we wait for Mess to call the special election ( inwhich he should make venge pres)
Tatts early in SH game: Hmm, so if I'm liberal I should have voted Nein to make sure I'm president? I'm not that selfish

Tatts later in SAME game: I'm going to be a corrupt official. I have turned from my liberal ways, and now will vote against the pesky liberals. Viva la Fascism.
When Venge's turn comes, he will get a yes from Mess, Dolmen, Nevyn and Venge but a no from the 3 fascists and me. **** with my Government, and i'll **** with yours
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Posted 25 February 2018 - 09:22 PM

Hitler is meant to look the most liberal. He's not meant to look Fascist.

Drek picking a fascist policy ensured we'd both look fascist.

Similar with Nevyn/Nom. Nom had previously picked a liberal policy did he not?

Either way one of them look fascist.

So now 4 people look fascist. That has left us picking out of the 4 remaining. Perfect place for Hitler to hide because he can be picked Chancellor.

That, I think, is what the smart players like Drek and Nevyn have created.

Now Nevyn also has cast shade at Cause. Making him possible fascist.

So who do we have left.

Messremb, Venge and Dolmen.

ALL THE REST HAVE BEEN CREATED TO LOOK FASCIST.

So if I am to believe Nevyn and Drek are fascist then in my eyes I have Nom and Cause as the only Liberals.

Picking the two Liberals out of the VPHs is tough.

Venge looks liberal. He passed two liberal policies onto Nom.

Mess has passed two liberal policies and one fascist.

Dolmen gave Mess one of each but has not had opportunity to pass a fascist policy.

I think we've lost. Its not clear AT ALL.
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Posted 25 February 2018 - 09:47 PM

You know who else is meant to look the most liberal? Liberals.

You are basically suggesting we cant trust trustworthy people because being trustworthy makes them suspicious. Leaving only the untrustworthy ones.

Really hoping you are fascist, because you make no sense and we wont be able to get this done without 5 ja votes ...
Tatts early in SH game: Hmm, so if I'm liberal I should have voted Nein to make sure I'm president? I'm not that selfish

Tatts later in SAME game: I'm going to be a corrupt official. I have turned from my liberal ways, and now will vote against the pesky liberals. Viva la Fascism.
When Venge's turn comes, he will get a yes from Mess, Dolmen, Nevyn and Venge but a no from the 3 fascists and me. **** with my Government, and i'll **** with yours
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Posted 25 February 2018 - 09:54 PM

I'm not voting you on anything.
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Posted 25 February 2018 - 10:01 PM

*the polar opposite of what Nevyn just said*

Really he makes perfect sense to me just as I was starting to think there's no possible way for Tatts to be liberal, but me thinking he's fascist the whole time probably means he is liberal

D'rek whats your thoughts?

As for where I think the deception lies, why,I think it's somewhere between Nevyn telling you he passed me a liberal policy and telling us that Cause is a fascist

That being said it doesn't make Cause a CI in my eyes
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