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#1681 User is offline   Azath Vitr (D'ivers 

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Posted 25 October 2022 - 01:41 PM

View PostMaark Abbott, on 25 October 2022 - 07:47 AM, said:

And of course there are bootlickers defending his non-dom tax evasion scam whilst serving as chancellor of the exchequer because it was 'legal', despite that if you or me did anything of the sort we'd be looking at no less than a decade in prison.

Need to get Bessie built, chop chop


'To make matters worse, it soon emerged that Sunak held a U.S. green card while serving as Britain’s finance minister. That essentially meant he’d declared himself a permanent American resident for tax reasons while also overseeing tax hikes at home.'

Rishi Sunak Is Twice as Rich as the King

lol...

'he had declared himself a “permanent US resident” for tax purposes for 19 months while he was chancellor and for six years as an MP.'

Sunak’s wife to pay UK tax after outcry, as PM denies non-dom knowledge
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Posted 25 October 2022 - 02:38 PM

I guess it comes from being selected and not elected…

He is not as bad as Liz Trusd was as far as I can tell, but he has no charisma either. The jokes about his robotic delivery seem spot on. Bizarre and stilted cadence.

Charisma isn’t how I would choose my leaders. They need substance first but it’s certainly an important attribute.

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Posted 25 October 2022 - 03:22 PM

Could we start w the basics: is he, or is he not, likely to try to freeze to death a large chunk of the population, then deny the survivors health care?

Also, if Scotland says 'fuck this mess, we're out', is he going to smile and wave, or send in troops?
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Posted 25 October 2022 - 04:01 PM

View PostAbyss, on 25 October 2022 - 03:22 PM, said:

Could we start w the basics: is he, or is he not, likely to try to freeze to death a large chunk of the population, then deny the survivors health care?

Also, if Scotland says 'fuck this mess, we're out', is he going to smile and wave, or send in troops?


I'd have said he was marginally less likely to do the first than Truss. But he's made Suella Braverman home secretary again, so all bets are off. Ignore my silver lining comment about Rees-Mogg, she's the sort of right wing lunatic that makes him look vaguely sensible.

As to Scotland? I'd imagine he's more palatable than Truss and her clear venomous hatred of Nicola Sturgeon, but Sturgeon still can't stand the Tories in general so they might well leave the Union either way.

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Posted 25 October 2022 - 05:19 PM

as fucked as Britain is now, Scotland flying solo would be a disaster for the common Scot
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Posted 25 October 2022 - 07:32 PM

View PostMacros, on 25 October 2022 - 05:19 PM, said:

as fucked as Britain is now, Scotland flying solo would be a disaster for the common Scot


I acknowledge my under-informedness on this subject, but have seen told that were Scotland to exit the UK and join the EU, the impact would be workable. Inaccurate?
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Posted 25 October 2022 - 08:13 PM

Scotland would not join the EU, France and Spain would veto that HARD. They have regions that want to separate, so would make damned sure it didn't look attractive.

But outside of that the SNPs dreams of a socialist paradise based on the Norwegian model is frankly delusional, the ship has sailed for putting the oil money into a sovereign fund long ago. BP would shift operations back down to Newcastle, along with its jobs and expertise. And the MOD will fuck off, with the 100,000 odd jobs it carries, with all that filthy over spend money that comes with it.

Tourism, salmon farms and the hope they get rights to the oil and gas in the north sea (they wouldn't) is all they have and that simply wont carry Scotland, they get more from England than they put in and fucking love taking the piss out of the NHS, as usual the ones lured into voting for this (much like brexit) are the ones it would cripple the most.
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Posted 25 October 2022 - 10:27 PM

View PostAbyss, on 25 October 2022 - 07:32 PM, said:

View PostMacros, on 25 October 2022 - 05:19 PM, said:

as fucked as Britain is now, Scotland flying solo would be a disaster for the common Scot


I acknowledge my under-informedness on this subject, but have seen told that were Scotland to exit the UK and join the EU, the impact would be workable. Inaccurate?


Yeah, pretty much. Firstly, they wouldn't be able to 'just' rejoin the EU, that would take quite a bit of time. Time that they wouldnt really have because economically they cannot stand on their own feet. The Scots like to bring up their north sea oil reserves as a means to shore up their finances for a while, but the truth is that they wouldn't have much control over those at all due to existing regulations and the way that these are exploited. They'd be bankrupt before they'd even have a chance to start meeting EU financial and regulatory standards for rejoining.
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Posted 26 October 2022 - 11:50 AM

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Posted 27 October 2022 - 09:15 AM

Was that Richie Suncream?

Meanwhile, a day late and a buck short but still relevant:

https://www.theshove...irst-time-ever/

Boris Johnson pulls out early, for first time ever

Boris Johnson has pulled out of the Tory leadership contest, despite not being completely finished fucking the country. It is believed to be the first time he has pulled out early.

Sources say Johnson, who has at least seven children to three different women, took a rare moment to reflect on his life choices, had a long look at the quivering British masses and decided to do a runner before there was any further mess to clean up.
Johnson said he found the familiarity with Britain off-putting, having fucked it many times before. He is looking at alternative opportunities abroad.

A lot more to come.
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Posted 01 November 2022 - 08:45 AM

Oh look, Braverman got caught sending government sensitive emails to her personal inbox. Given Truss' phone got hacked by presumably Russians, I do wonder where Braverman was sending the said emails, or who had access to her wifi.
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Posted 03 November 2022 - 08:55 PM

We're looking at the longest recession in 100 years and I read results from a focus group in an ex-red wall constituency and they said the voters thought the Tories were the best party to see us through 🙄
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Posted 03 November 2022 - 10:24 PM

That's because Conservatives are inherently better at 'the economy'.. So whenever a conservative government mismanages the economy, that just means an even more conservative government is needed. And when they screw it up...
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Posted 04 November 2022 - 08:49 AM

View PostMezla PigDog, on 03 November 2022 - 08:55 PM, said:

We're looking at the longest recession in 100 years and I read results from a focus group in an ex-red wall constituency and they said the voters thought the Tories were the best party to see us through 🙄


Conservatives own the media and the media tell people like that what they must think.

It's sad to say it, but that's pretty much how things have been set up over the past decade.
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Posted 04 November 2022 - 08:59 AM

Decade?

Optimist.

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