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Yay for the tories!

[Maark Abbott]

Lady Bliss, on 21 November 2023 - 01:26 PM, said:

worry, on 21 November 2023 - 01:02 PM, said:

That's dangerous talk. While someone that is disabled but is capable to work with workplace accomplishments seems reasonable, I think it could be a slippery slope that could deny care for all of the disabled.

Disgusting. They do not care about those with disabilities. Only their own bottom line. This will invariably lead to folk who can't work being forced to either work or lose everything. Toraidh bastarts create a society of people whose mental health is guttered to fuck and then shit on them after. Need a hot sauce fucking enema this lot.

[Mezla PigDog]

Are we feeling at least a little bit good, people?

(Yes, yes, I know Starmer is Tory-lite and stands for nothing).

Get the popcorn in for whatever batshit internal squabbling antics the Conservative party are going to get into now.

[Tiste Simeon]

Yes indeed. They've been quite nicely crushed.

Two little things that particularly made me happy:
Count Binface beat Britain First.
Laurence Fox only got 0.49% of the votes. Even that is too many but I hope he's miserable about it.

[Tsundoku]

Reading some of the commentary is hilarious. Do they not understand that democratic govts aren't voted in, but voted out? Or do they know and just don't want to admit it?
Labour thinking people are voting FOR them is quite funny. It's the same here. They actually start to genuinely believe their own bullshit.

It's an endless cycle of "the current lot are stale and shit, maybe the other lot can't do any worse". And so on ad infinitum ...

Loving watching the Tories turn on each other. But that Bravermann is another whole order of magnitude of cold, treacherous, hypocritical bitch.

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: 05 May 2024 - 12:32 PM

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

Mezla PigDog, on 05 May 2024 - 08:43 AM, said:

Are we feeling at least a little bit good, people?

(Yes, yes, I know Starmer is Tory-lite and stands for nothing).

Get the popcorn in for whatever batshit internal squabbling antics the Conservative party are going to get into now.

Former UK poet laureate Andrew Motion in The Atlantic:

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No Subject

Hope exhausted years ago
but I still try.
Heart thumps on doggedly
[...] I dream
the ground I plough and plant
might even now
sprout greenery I never saw before
and not, as I expect, remain
as rolling oceans do in falling snow.

... drools the waves....

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 05 May 2024 - 03:25 PM

[worry]

Snap general election called for July 4...Happy Independence Day, UK!

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

worry, on 22 May 2024 - 04:57 PM, said:

Snap general election called for July 4...Happy Independence Day, UK!

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Rishi Sunak's Election Speech Drowned Out By Pouring British Rain & Protester Blasting D:Ream's 'Things Can Only Get Better'

As the prime minister delivered his address to the nation, he was getting visibly drenched by a spring shower, while he had to fight to be heard over [...] Things Can Only Get Better, a famous Tony Blair campaign song

Rishi Sunak Election Speech Wash Out; 'Things Can Only Get Better' (deadline.com)

lol

I bless the rains
up in Ang-le-terre

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 22 May 2024 - 05:37 PM

[Tiste Simeon]

Well now. The next 6 weeks should be fun.

[stone monkey]

I mean, "Yay! General Election!"
But also, professionally speaking at least, now nothing gets decided or done for 6 weeks at just the point where a whole bunch of things needed to be decided and/or done. Treading water for 6 weeks should be fun...

[Tsundoku]

stone monkey, on 22 May 2024 - 07:55 PM, said:

I mean, "Yay! General Election!"
But also, professionally speaking at least, now nothing gets decided or done for 6 weeks at just the point where a whole bunch of things needed to be decided and/or done. Treading water for 6 weeks should be fun...

Funny you say treading water ...

[Tiste Simeon]

stone monkey, on 22 May 2024 - 07:55 PM, said:

I mean, "Yay! General Election!"
But also, professionally speaking at least, now nothing gets decided or done for 6 weeks at just the point where a whole bunch of things needed to be decided and/or done. Treading water for 6 weeks should be fun...

And everywhere else will just be deluged by an absolute tsunami of fake news, ai generated misinformation, Russian troll farms and bots... Hatemongers like Farage, 30p Lee, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon etc will manage to worm their way into everything... It's going to get grim.

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

Tiste Simeon, on 22 May 2024 - 09:34 PM, said:

stone monkey, on 22 May 2024 - 07:55 PM, said:

I mean, "Yay! General Election!"
But also, professionally speaking at least, now nothing gets decided or done for 6 weeks at just the point where a whole bunch of things needed to be decided and/or done. Treading water for 6 weeks should be fun...

And everywhere else will just be deluged by an absolute tsunami of fake news, ai generated misinformation, Russian troll farms and bots... Hatemongers like Farage, 30p Lee, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon etc will manage to worm their way into everything... It's going to get grim.

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The party best placed to capitalize on a sense that Sunak has not delivered on immigration is Reform, the successor to the U.K. Independence Party. But the local elections showed that its ground organization is still patchy, and the energetic and well-known Nigel Farage, who co-founded the party, has so far resisted calls to serve as its leader. Holding an election now significantly diminishes the threat to the Tories from the radical right.

An imminent election also saves them the trouble of explaining how they plan to make the country's budget add up next year.

Spoiler

Conservatives usually win elections by presenting themselves as sober, tough guardians of the public finances. Instead, as the former Tory policy adviser Sam Freedman wrote [...] Sunak and his chancellor of the exchequer "set the loosest (and most absurd) fiscal rules on record and then only met them by setting fantasy spending numbers for after the election." Then, Freedman added, rather than investing in public services, they used "this fiscal jiggery-pokery … to fund £35 billion of tax cuts."

The British Prime Minister Bowed to the Inevitable - The Atlantic

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Even the choice of location for the announcement – outside No 10 in the pouring rain [...] has become a source of anger and humiliation. The fact that, within this parliament, £2.6m was spent on refurbishing a glitzy press room just next door at No 9 Downing Street has not gone unnoticed.

"Indoors, dry, no music" a confused comms adviser pointed out. "There are so many things you can't predict, but 'rain makes you wet' really isn't one."

Why Conservatives are furious with Rishi Sunak - New Statesman

Like something out of Veep...

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 22 May 2024 - 10:14 PM

[Mezla PigDog]

Urgh. On the one hand I am excited at the prospect of change (I hope). On the other hand, it's all so grim and even if the most likely result happens, Starmer hasn't given any real reasons to feel enthusiastic about him. There are people around him who I feel more enthusiastic about though. Rayner is a nice change from your average MP and a female Chancellor will be noteworthy.... I've always liked Ed Miliband and Yvette Cooper. David Lammy says it like it is. Emily Thornberry seems competent.

So ignoring Starmer and party politics - it's a collective bunch of people that are a gazillion miles ahead of the alternatives. I hope there are more Green MPs at the end of it as well.

[Maark Abbott]

Mezla PigDog, on 23 May 2024 - 06:56 AM, said:

Urgh. On the one hand I am excited at the prospect of change (I hope). On the other hand, it's all so grim and even if the most likely result happens, Starmer hasn't given any real reasons to feel enthusiastic about him. There are people around him who I feel more enthusiastic about though. Rayner is a nice change from your average MP and a female Chancellor will be noteworthy.... I've always liked Ed Miliband and Yvette Cooper. David Lammy says it like it is. Emily Thornberry seems competent.

So ignoring Starmer and party politics - it's a collective bunch of people that are a gazillion miles ahead of the alternatives. I hope there are more Green MPs at the end of it as well.

The greens came up Milhouse in the local elections so you never know!

[Cyphon]

I describe this election alternatively as;

Relief not excitement

Or

Out of the fire and into the frying pan.

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

Seems almost like Sunak said to himself, "Screw trying to make the budget work, screw the far right, screw the Tories, I quit... wait no, I can screw them over even worse if I don't quit!"

But that's almost certainly making him sound far more heroic than he actually is....

Would that those rain drops had been custard pies. (Or even better: better politicians legislators!)

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 23 May 2024 - 01:20 PM

[TheRetiredBridgeburner]

Mezla PigDog, on 23 May 2024 - 06:56 AM, said:

Urgh. On the one hand I am excited at the prospect of change (I hope). On the other hand, it's all so grim and even if the most likely result happens, Starmer hasn't given any real reasons to feel enthusiastic about him. There are people around him who I feel more enthusiastic about though. Rayner is a nice change from your average MP and a female Chancellor will be noteworthy.... I've always liked Ed Miliband and Yvette Cooper. David Lammy says it like it is. Emily Thornberry seems competent.

So ignoring Starmer and party politics - it's a collective bunch of people that are a gazillion miles ahead of the alternatives. I hope there are more Green MPs at the end of it as well.

Very much all of this.

And another worry about just how grim this will get in the next six weeks.

[Mezla PigDog]

I watched Question Time and now I am depressed.

I'm in a newly drawn constituency. I feel like everything I know about voting here has been taken away! Not that it really matters overall but I enjoy the thought process of trying to work out what to do in a tactical vote.

[Abyss]

So is this just a frustrating 'least of all evils' election for you guys, or is it more of a 'good vs evil' thing a la 'anyone vs Trump' in the US?