[Tapper]

Abyss, on 17 January 2011 - 03:14 PM, said:

honestly wtf. we're going into the LAST book with yet another 'Luke is a dickhead' joke...

i remain unimpressed.

Maybe the entire 6th book is not about fireworks, but about them settling their differences/ finding a way to deal with Mark permanently. All the upgrades they received this time around allow for proper and faster rebuilding of Whitechapel and more efficient management, not so much for violence or bigger fireworks.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see the story end the way it begins (KK restoring her heli is a sign, I think), which means that Ellis meant for FA to concentrate on the (second) big wtf moment in their lives, which is realizing they are immortal - and then how they plan to deal with it and grow up and over their teenage angsts, which imho fits the Jack-Sirka reconciliation Kait tries to push unto Jack in book 5 after he tried to kill Luc.

Anti-climactic it may be, but story-telling wise it makes sense.

This post has been edited by Tapper: 20 January 2011 - 02:23 PM

[Sinisdar Toste]

Tapper, on 20 January 2011 - 02:23 PM, said:

Abyss, on 17 January 2011 - 03:14 PM, said:

honestly wtf. we're going into the LAST book with yet another 'Luke is a dickhead' joke...

i remain unimpressed.

Maybe the entire 6th book is not about fireworks, but about them settling their differences/ finding a way to deal with Mark permanently. All the upgrades they received this time around allow for proper and faster rebuilding of Whitechapel and more efficient management, not so much for violence or bigger fireworks.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see the story end the way it begins (KK restoring her heli is a sign, I think), which means that Ellis meant for FA to concentrate on the (second) big wtf moment in their lives, which is realizing they are immortal - and then how they plan to deal with it and grow up and over their teenage angsts, which imho fits the Jack-Sirka reconciliation Kait tries to push unto Jack in book 5 after he tried to kill Luc.

Anti-climactic it may be, but story-telling wise it makes sense.

except for the random unexplained helicopter...

[Abyss]

in today's ep....

SOMETHING HAPPENS!!!!

Almost. Kind of. Off-screen.

Fuck.

[amphibian]

Last week's episode was a waste of time. This week's episode was very good, but the six page format makes this fucking difficult to take - there's not much in the way of a nuanced response to perhaps the finest single speech in the comic yet.

Planetary's overall story arc [MODGOD] can be discussed in the other Warren Ellis thread [/MODGOD]

This post has been edited by Abyss: 21 January 2011 - 06:48 PM
Reason for edit: PLANETARY SPOILERS

[Abyss]

amphibian, on 21 January 2011 - 06:20 PM, said:

Last week's episode was a waste of time. This week's episode was very good, but the six page format makes this fucking difficult to take - there's not much in the way of a nuanced response to perhaps the finest single speech in the comic yet.
...

It WAS a great piece of dialogue from Luke esp following on Jack's thinly veiled suggestion that they kill him (again) - which we know can't really work, not least of all bcs the future silhouettes include all 12 of them.

Alice still rocks.

[Tapper]

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllll, the action kicks of. Also, I hadn't expected that of Miki.

[amphibian]

Tapper, on 28 January 2011 - 10:24 PM, said:

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllll, the action kicks of. Also, I hadn't expected that of Miki.

What Miki did is inexcusable. The others should be up in a riot about it.

I like this theme of exploring how almost all of them fail to meet up to ideals and the course of "rightness".

It's interesting that Mark left a deadman's switch in his sleepers.

[Abyss]

Seriously did not see that coming from Miki. Kait maybe.
But KK's suggestion is also interesting. I still want more mind-'splody but the issues they're raising are veddy intewesting.

And Alice so rawks, especially because she is about to rappel down into a gun duel with Mark's excavated mindpuppet(s).

[Sinisdar Toste]

woot! finally! warren ellis you are a sneaky man.

and i agree with amphibian, even if i agreed that luke was a twat and a degenerate, the idea that somebody would chemically castrate a person while they were unconscious would have me on my feet in a heartbeat just cuz i'm a guy. seriously, WTF!?

[polishgenius]

The thing that's got me curious is Luke's lack of reaction. I know he's apparently had a bit of an epiphany moment but come on. I'm half suspecting that Miki (or someone else) did something to his head as well.

[Aptorian]

Sinisdar Toste, on 28 January 2011 - 11:20 PM, said:

woot! finally! warren ellis you are a sneaky man.

and i agree with amphibian, even if i agreed that luke was a twat and a degenerate, the idea that somebody would chemically castrate a person while they were unconscious would have me on my feet in a heartbeat just cuz i'm a guy. seriously, WTF!?

He mentally and physically raped a woman! Could we tone down the sympathy for his penis, please. God knows what other things he might have been up to with out their knowing.

If you put your penis inside another person without their consent you get your penis privileges taken away from you. Perfectly fair, it's not like she cut off his peas and carrot while he was forced to watch.

[Abyss]

Roger Ramjet, on 30 January 2011 - 03:21 PM, said:

Sinisdar Toste, on 28 January 2011 - 11:20 PM, said:

woot! finally! warren ellis you are a sneaky man.

and i agree with amphibian, even if i agreed that luke was a twat and a degenerate, the idea that somebody would chemically castrate a person while they were unconscious would have me on my feet in a heartbeat just cuz i'm a guy. seriously, WTF!?

He mentally and physically raped a woman! Could we tone down the sympathy for his penis, please. God knows what other things he might have been up to with out their knowing.

If you put your penis inside another person without their consent you get your penis privileges taken away from you. Perfectly fair, it's not like she cut off his peas and carrot while he was forced to watch.

i'm with Rog on the appropriate consequences. The real question is did Miki fuck with his mind, or just his junk... Did she snip something physically, or rewire his thinkymeatz. Luke's behaviour really suggests the latter and given what Mark was planning i think the other FAs are going to seriously lose it over this.

And then Alice shows up with a bunch of dead Mark'bots and the FA's realize Whitechapel doesn't need them anymore.

[Abyss]

As cute as the most recent one was... ummm... seriously... we're in the home stretch for this series and we need an entire ep fixing Jack and Sirkka's fncked up relationship?

And am i alone in liking Arkady better when she was more nutz?

[MTS]

Wow, I haven't checked this in yonks, I need to catch up.

[Tapper]

Wow. That's some serious punishment they lay down on Luc in nr 126.

[Abyss]

Which raises the question of what they're going to do to Mark.

[Aptorian]

Memory wipe? Maybe do a roll back to before they fucked up the world.

[Tapper]

Abyss, on 07 March 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

Which raises the question of what they're going to do to Mark.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllll, after today's episode, I know one person who is perfectly happy with continuously blowing his brains out by squeezing the trigger of a shotgun every two minutes.

[Sinisdar Toste]

Tapper, on 12 March 2011 - 09:46 AM, said:

Abyss, on 07 March 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

Which raises the question of what they're going to do to Mark.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllll, after today's episode, I know one person who is perfectly happy with continuously blowing his brains out by squeezing the trigger of a shotgun every two minutes.

yeah no kidding. alice fooking rocks

[Abyss]

Love Alice so much.