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#481 User is offline   Gem Windcaster 

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 03:58 PM

I think Ganoes will be in it too, I just hope it's more than sporadic - I hope he really is IN it. A lot.
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Posted 11 February 2008 - 03:59 PM

Urb;257181 said:

The soletaken Eleint travelling with Mappo (her name is Spite, yes?) said Icarium was a part of the big convergence ahead. And that Mappo had a part to play. Since they were on their way to Genabackis(sp?) at the end of the Bonehunters, I'd say some Icarium-machine action is likely to happen. But wasn't the one in Darujistan just a machine made to measure time?


I think the convergence she was talking about, was the Lether one...
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Posted 11 February 2008 - 04:41 PM

nah.. it was supposed to be bigger than anything ever seen before. Bigger than the fall of the Crippled God, the chainings, the First Empire soletaken ritual, the Kallorian Empire, etc... In Lether the only thing that happened was that Rulad got his arm (and then head chopped off). Also, Mappo has a part to play. She was certain of that.

Could be Icarium has already started it though.
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Posted 11 February 2008 - 06:05 PM

I think its logical to assume that the series is heading towards what'll be one of the biggest convergences in wu history (thats basically one of the ways I view the series as a whole actually, a record of the events that lead up to one of the biggest events ever on wu), so its a bit hard to tell if Spite was regerring to the one that occured in Lether or to a future one. Icariums part in it having started seems likely with his actions at the end of RG.

Either way I think TtH should by the end clue us in a fair deal on how the players are all going to be related when everything really does go down in the last 2 books.
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Posted 11 February 2008 - 06:17 PM

Quick~;257239 said:

Either way I think TtH should by the end clue us in a fair deal on how the players are all going to be related when everything really does go down in the last 2 books.


O rly?

Knowing Erikson, he'll prolly throw more charachters into the pot and leave us stewing right till the last chapter of the last book :rolleyes:
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Posted 11 February 2008 - 06:26 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did it say somewhere on this forum, that SE had said somewhere, that he had included an extra storyline along the main storyline (which is the Crippled God of course)? Could Icarium be that extra disparate storyline, giving us a momentous convergence in the end of TtH that does not necessarily have a devastating impact on the whole Crippled God theme?

...what?
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Posted 11 February 2008 - 06:27 PM

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O rly?

Knowing Erikson, he'll prolly throw more charachters into the pot and leave us stewing right till the last chapter of the last book :rolleyes:


I'm sure I read somewhere that the last 2 books were essentially back to back novels for the climax of things. So I figured we'd probably have a reasonable portion of players approaching their various locations for the finale of things in the big convergence.
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Posted 12 February 2008 - 12:31 AM

Aptorian;257184 said:

I think the convergence she was talking about, was the Lether one...


yeah that wouldn't make sense because Mappo was in no way involved.

My feeling is that by the end of TtH, we will have at least 3 huge convergences. The end of TtH will maybe see the Genabackis convergence happen....which will involve Mappo and Icarium being reunited I think.

The second and third convergences will of course be The Lether one and of course whatever happens in The Crippled God.
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Posted 12 February 2008 - 12:32 AM

Update: Tor Books want me to wait 48 hours before posting the cover art for Toll the Hounds.

It will hence be posted on Wednesday night... :rolleyes:

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 02:23 AM

thanks patrick, roll on wednesday
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Posted 12 February 2008 - 03:19 AM

pat5150;257453 said:

Update: Tor Books want me to wait 48 hours before posting the cover art for Toll the Hounds.

It will hence be posted on Wednesday night... :rolleyes:

Patrick


Oh so that is different from what we've already seen?
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Posted 12 February 2008 - 06:01 AM

Yes, he'll be posting the American one and we've seen the Biritish one.
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Posted 12 February 2008 - 06:34 AM

Oh god...I'm dreading the American version.
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Posted 12 February 2008 - 07:34 AM

well Pat said

pat said:

And for the first time, the Tor Books version will kick Bantam Press' ass! It's a pretty cool cover!


so here's hoping it'll be something awesome (and plot relevant!)
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Posted 12 February 2008 - 07:42 AM

I virtually wet myself with anticipation.
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Posted 12 February 2008 - 01:34 PM

It's by far the best American cover thus far! :rolleyes:

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 05:44 PM

Urb;257259 said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did it say somewhere on this forum, that SE had said somewhere, that he had included an extra storyline along the main storyline (which is the Crippled God of course)? Could Icarium be that extra disparate storyline, giving us a momentous convergence in the end of TtH that does not necessarily have a devastating impact on the whole Crippled God theme?


There are so many candidates for that extra storyline...

Heboric and the Jade Giants come to mind, as do the Just Wars between the Liosan and the Forkrul Assail, as does Icarium, the whole deal with the Nameless Ones, Dessimbelackis's tale, etc
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Posted 12 February 2008 - 06:26 PM

Very true... At first I thought it was Karsa Orlong, but now it just seems it could be anything.

The Jade giants appear to be linked with the Crippled God storyline though. All those souls looking for their lost god (maybe I remember this wrong) are alien, as is the Chained One. I think we can rule out Heboric.
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Posted 12 February 2008 - 07:53 PM

pat5150;257664 said:

It's by far the best American cover thus far! :rolleyes:

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Damn you and your teasing.

*notes that it won't take much to be the best American cover "by far"*
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Posted 12 February 2008 - 08:00 PM

He didn't say what it was best for. It might be the best American cover for toilet paper, you never thought of that, did you, eh? You see if the cover was that bad/incredibly worse than the rest, no one would have any regrets about using it in this manner therefore we demand to know what "better" means in this context!

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