[Gem Windcaster]

One could only hope that Kallor finds himself in a position where he felt he needed to save someone we really dispise. And then try to do it.

[Lisheo]

Im sure Kallors got an interesting past... there has bo be something keeping him going after all. I mean, if I was faced with millenia of messing everything I loved up, id just jump in front of Brood's Hammer!

[Dag]

Lisheo;203043 said:

Im sure Kallors got an interesting past... there has bo be something keeping him going after all. I mean, if I was faced with millenia of messing everything I loved up, id just jump in front of Brood's Hammer!

I've got the impression that Kallor loves only two things:
a) himself
messing everything and everybody else up.

That's what keeps him going - keeping himself alive and making everybody else as miserable as possible.

[Locke Reaper]

I agree that the only thing kallor loves id himself and power. Just imagine how it must feel to watch yourself wither, have, what once was your peers, sneer at you due to the fact that you are a relic and a weakling...

I would think love withers quickly...

but hate.....is still the path to the dark side

[lasombra]

some one said the below

Hee. I kinda think that has to be happening as we speak. Or maybe the fact that he has the Endymion-type longevity with no youth, so he gets to both outlast his lovers and also become decrepit? . . . okay, so maybe Abyss' assessment carries weight too. -.-

but to counter, Kallor:Fifty years...to conquer an entire continent.(MoI, UK Trade, p.14)

and the curse came after he had conquered the entrie continent..meaning he was already old when he got his imortality type of curse?

[Locke Reaper]

the difference is that before the curse he could still ascend, thus age was not an problem then you could use your power to alter your appearance, body structure and so forth.

Now he is going to get older and older, imagine being thousands of years old with athritic knees a weak bladder and altsheimers.

not a fun prospect!

[Lisheo]

Its still a pretty pathetic curse, considering what he did tho!

[Dancer+]

I think the curse is awful, he can't escape his own aging and his own bitterness. It's a cage of depression.

He also can't get out of it because everything he achieves turns to dust. On another note isn't Kallor a dangerous acquisition for the Crippled God especially if everything he achieves turns to dust. It seems like the Crippled God is hiring self-destructive allies.

[ch'arlz]

Kallor burns 100 year candles to reverse the effects of aging.

Quote

MoI, Tor mmpb p.390:
These Century Candles, for one, are well named. Upon my life, yet another layer seeps into my flesh and bone - I can feel it with each breath. A good thing, too. Who would want to live for ever in a body too frail to move? Another hundred years, gained in the passage of a single night, in the depths of this one reach of columned wax. And I have scores more...

-ch'arlz, will settle for 25-year candles

[Lisheo]

Yeah, in fairness, he has lessened the curse severly!

[Dark Mac]

It's a stupid curse, since it doesn't prevent him from causing more harm. Same with what Karsa originally did with Silgar. It's much better to kill and be done with it.

[Obdigore]

Perhaps that is the point?

That the leader/rules are good are possibly too benevolent to finish off even their enemies, and it is comming back to bite them in the ass?

[ch'arlz]

Obdigore;204088 said:

Perhaps that is the point?

That the leader/rules are good are possibly too benevolent to finish off even their enemies, and it is comming back to bite them in the ass?

I recall that leaving Kallor powerless and unascended was deemed to be a greater punishment than simply finishing him off; it wasn't out of a misplaced benevolence.

-ch'arlz, too benevolent a parent

[Aptorian]

ch said:

Kallor burns 100 year candles to reverse the effects of aging.

ch'arlz, will settle for 25-year candles

Indeed, on the nabouring continent the first empire knew how to live a thousands of years with out dying through alchemy, ascending or "soletaking" not required.

That's why the bodies Felisin, Heboric and Kulp find in DG were so well preserved. The alchemy they use, keep their bodies healthy and whole even in death... hmm, Night of the living dead anyone?

[Chance]

Obdigore;204088 said:

Perhaps that is the point?

That the leader/rules are good are possibly too benevolent to finish off even their enemies, and it is comming back to bite them in the ass?

hehe calling the elder goods benevolent is pretty funny since pretty much everyone has them down to the worst kind of gods there ever was...

I think one when measuring kallor should realize three elder gods decided to stop him I don't think that was because he just had conquered a continent that happens all the time...Kallor is or at least was a great deal more then a petty tyrant...

And I really hope to get a continuation of his story in the next book

[Flawed]

i think it was more due to his crimes, they brought the worse and most powerful judgment they thought they could apply. Personally apply, in a specific manner. as lets face it from what we know of Kallor he would of very much liked to be God.

It may not seem much of a punishment to some but specifically and uniquely to Kallor it was the worst kind.

[Lisheo]

I suppose yer right, it did kinda put an end to his plans of ascencion. But why not just chain him up in an azath? Thatd have been my plan.

[Flawed]

I think mainly because he isn't singularly powerful enough for the Azath to want to take him. There is no need to remove him in such a way to maintain balance.

He is a pain in the back side, a singularly skilful swordsman and General and all round despot but he is just a human dude. A normal unacended human dude.

I think the Elder Gods did what they could as close as they could to personal and eternal torment.

They could of just chained him up and put Spanish Pop on at an overly loud volume 24/7.

That would of done it also.

[Lisheo]

Ah, thats true. Im just curious as to why curse him, instead of chaining him to a menhir or an azath, or even using him to seal some random portal. I mean, now hes able to cause all sorts of trouble, with the CG as a patron...

[dolfanuk]

may have already been answered but how the hell did he destroy his realm and everyone in it if he wasn't an asscendant?