[Kurt Montandon]

Coin Bearer;179535 said:

I am doing my first re-read of TBH, and in fact I just finished the section on the firestorm. But I don't recall seeing Oponn caught in the firestorm. Can someone point me to a page?

Er, what? There's no such quote. Oppon has no part in Y'Ghatan, besides the usual good-luck/bad-luck business.

[Coin Bearer]

kmmontandon;179621 said:

Er, what? There's no such quote. Oppon has no part in Y'Ghatan, besides the usual good-luck/bad-luck business.

You are right, I rechecked the first post in this thread and it says a fireball in Malaz City, not Y'Ghatan. Whew!

[Kurt Montandon]

Murrin;69823 said:

A note of interest, not assignation: I find it interesting that Fiddler seems to keep dealing himself the Soldier of High House Life card. I remember it happening at least once before tBH.

To answer this old post: When the Adjunct Lorn approaches Fiddler and co. in Darujhistan, they're playing a game with a Deck, and one of the cards drawn that was supposed to be hopeful was, IIRC, the Champion of High House Life, which is probably what you remember.

... it may even have been Captain of High House Life, but I may be misremembering, as from the context I'd assumed the card was referring to Captain Ganoes Paran at the time. Have to check the book when I get ahold of it.

[Lucifer's Heaven]

Hetan;179763 said:

I think Anomander Rake might have something to say about that

Sorry I was very tired but you know what I meant. So the dude on the horse was the Second? I've only read TB once, so I don't really remember it much. I didn't think it was the second because I vaguely remember when we meet the Second while he helps inter the Mhybe (I think it's then) his internal monologue says he doesn't remember much of anything really. Hence my remembering the Mounted dude as being too loquascious for someone with no memory.

[Skywalker]

L'sH: When interring the Mhybe we meet the new version of Baudin.. who has become Herald of High House Death... (edit) So these are two different people in suits of armor

Incidentally, there was something about the Herald in Fiddler's game during TBH... I believe a reference to a rusty glove.

[jared1221]

You just switched them. The one in Capustan who helps inter the mhybe, is the Knight of Death and in life that was Baudin. Remember him remembering a lot of fire and Murillio or Coll (to himself) commenting on how he looks Malazan.

edit: That's the second time today someone beats my posts to it by mere seconds.

[Kurt Montandon]

sky_walker;180747 said:

Incidentally, there was something about the Herald in Fiddler's game during TBH... I believe a reference to a rusty glove.

Rusty Gauntlet - a drink that Bottle accidentally makes up, pouring half rum and half wine into Fiddler's cup during the game.

[MrXIII]

kmmontandon;180818 said:

Rusty Gauntlet - a drink that Bottle accidentally makes up, pouring half rum and half wine into Fiddler's cup during the game.

Not the worst drink ever.

[Shayed]

Hetan;72691 said:

Rhulad is not Deathslayer *runs around screaming*
fer f***'s sake... read the description of the card again..

you're right. Rhulad is the King in Chains... "There's the House of Chains and the King of that House-the King in Chains-is sitting on a throne. The scen is very dark, swallowed in shadows, except I swear that poor bastard is screaming" (tBh pp. 638, hb)

Deathslayer seems to be the CG. Tent, smoke...

[Shayed]

Murrin;69823 said:

A note of interest, not assignation: I find it interesting that Fiddler seems to keep dealing himself the Soldier of High House Life card. I remember it happening at least once before tBH.

I also think there's a lot yet to be revealed about Fiddler's identity. iirc, kimloc spiritwalker was shocked when he heard Fids real name in Deathhouse gates. what's that all about?

[Dolorous Menhir]

I don't think he was shocked by it. It's not like Fid's going to turn out to be Falari royalty or anything ridiculous like that.

[ASAGO]

I would like to see Icarium and Karsa Orlong fight, I think Icarium would probabaly win

[Kurt Montandon]

Shayed;181609 said:

I also think there's a lot yet to be revealed about Fiddler's identity. iirc, kimloc spiritwalker was shocked when he heard Fids real name in Deathhouse gates. what's that all about?

Actually, it was the captain of the house guard that was surprised, and presumably because Fiddler gave him a name that wasn't Seven Cities born, while dressed as a Gral.

[Shayed]

kmmontandon;181900 said:

Actually, it was the captain of the house guard that was surprised, and presumably because Fiddler gave him a name that wasn't Seven Cities born, while dressed as a Gral.

hm, sounds a lot simpler... you're probably right...

[Legatus Principus]

Uummmhh:
I tried to remember, then reread the section...
When Gethol offered Kallor a place in the House of Chains, he offered him the position of King. Afterwards he is always referred to as Reaver and Rhulad is King in Chains. I agree with that.
But when did this change occur? Was it an inconsistency of SE? Or even simpler a problem of translation? I read all books up to MT in german translation. Sorry!

[Gem Windcaster]

Kallor was never offered the place of King, where did you get that from? *confused*

[Legatus Principus]

It is from Memories of Ice, Book Two, Chapter 13 (german edition)

Gethol offers the position of King of High House of Chains to Kallor. I've read the page twice today and it's clearly the King's position they're talking about.
Gethol said that the position of King in HHC was not filled, then Kallor said, he would not kneel in front of anybody. Gethol however assured that such would not be askked from him. At last Kallor demands Silverfox as a reward and then
the last thing that Kallor wants to know is, if his throne is suited for it or not. Then Gethol approves and leaves to his warren.

It would be interesting to know, if that is a mistake of the translator Tim Straetmann.

[Illuyankas]

No, it's accurate. Memory's a bitch, ain't it?

[Legatus Principus]

Assuming it is correct, then there is another problem, because according to the timeline of the different stories Rhulad had at this time long been transformed to the monstrosity he is and was holding the position already.

Which could mean Gethol and the CG lured Kallor into HHC with false promises.
Nice thought, actually.