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Deck of Dragons at the end of The Bonehunters

#21 Folken

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 07:12 AM

Steven Erikson said:

The ascendant Whiskeyjack? [irrelevant into the discussion] The Bridgeburners who make a re-appearance in HoC are ghosts. Ascended, yes, resurrected, no.

WJ is ascended however he is gone and plays no further role in the series anymore. Doesn't mean he isn't around, we just don't see him lol

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#22 doolally2au

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 11:20 AM

Yeah, I agree with Jen'isand Rul. He's with the rest of the BB's (as will be Fiddler and the rest of the still living BB's when they eventually die) but he is not going to come out as a leading character in the series.

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 09:13 PM

one thing i've been wondering is where does brood fit in i would assume high house life (the conection with burn) but would he be king? (he is the embodyment of burns warren) champion? (the hammer the ability to end all life and awaken burn) or priest? (he uses high denul).

#24 Set'alahd Crool

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 09:25 PM

In the house of war army and soldier are the same card. At least that's what I thought Fid meant.

Deathslayer is Withal, I think.

#25 Sirhas

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 07:27 AM

Deathslayer is the Crippled God.

Regarding Army and Soldier, well... I have a feeling it refers to the 14th Army.

#26 Dinivan

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 09:19 AM

The army and soldier thingy: In the most houses there is the position of the soldier. This new card army/soldier is from equal position and role than the soldiers in the other houses but its (in this house) an army or the position is currently occupied by an army (the 14th maybe). So this is why there is this ambivalence army/soldier (in my reasonig, that is)

#27 Set'alahd Crool

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 02:11 PM

Sirhas said:

Deathslayer is the Crippled God.

That's the first impression alright, but in Fid's game Bottle gets the weaver of life(Agayla. Trust me, NoK info) and deathslayer.

"Deathslayer. You can sleep now, Bottle, you're done as done for the night".

Now, he didn't meet the crippled god in Malaz that night, but he did meet Withal.

#28 Murrin

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 03:30 PM

Interesting. The card clearly depicts the Crippled God, but Withal did forge the sword that slays death (from Silchas Ruin's broken blades - always found that a little funny, heh)... Perhaps a symbolic association, rather than actually holding the position.

#29 Orfantal

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 03:46 PM

Here's an off the wall suggestion... we know the Crippled God is elder but we don't know what his original role was....we know he's associated with Deathslayer...what about CG as king of High House Life before the Fall...Queen of Dreams has only been around in the relatively short past...did she ascend to that position because it had become vacant?

#30 Tiger_sword

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 03:58 PM

I think that as the CG is from another world he will have had nothing to do with the origional pantheon. Prehaps he was elder but not even that we can know for sure.

Just a thought.... when did the houses first come into being? (excluding Lether) i assume that they were created in different places at different times?

#31 Orfantal

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 04:05 PM

Well one of the things said by someone in BH was that the elder gods covered all realms

#32 spiralx

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 06:42 PM

Quick Ben seems to think Talamandas has taken the role of Magi in High House Death in MOI.

#33 Morgoth

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 10:44 PM

yes, but then he forced hood to give up the hold on the spirit, didn't he?

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#34 Set'alahd Crool

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Posted 20 March 2006 - 01:10 PM

Nope. He told Hood to be prepared to give up Talamandas' spirit when the time(?) comes.

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Posted 21 March 2006 - 06:38 AM

Great suggestions, all in all.
Makes great reading - thank you.

I am looking forward to the Fool of High House Chain.

#36 Ivan the terrible

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Posted 27 March 2006 - 02:29 PM

Death slayer is rhulad, the king in chains defeats death constantly and is in agony as stated in description of said card

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Posted 27 March 2006 - 03:20 PM

I would say that Death Slayer is the CG and Rhulad is the King in Chains, as it's more the CG's work reviving Rhulad every time he dies, and Rhulad seems to be in a lot more pain than the CG at the moment. Maybe he got some aspirin or something.

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#38 Set'alahd Crool

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Posted 27 March 2006 - 06:25 PM

I still think Death Slayer is Withal. I thought it was the CG untill my first re-read, where Fid's game and Bottle's mission convinced me otherwise.

#39 Sirhas

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 06:34 PM

I was re-reading Memories of Ice today, and I stumbled upon an interesting line from Silverfox to Paran, regarding the war between the gods : "An army is being... assembled, perhaps, and you - a soldier - are part of that army" (p.175, Bantam Books). Possible connection with the Army and Soldier card ?

I have two guesses : the 14th or Onearm's Host.