[Abyss]

Cause, on 29 February 2020 - 02:40 AM, said:

Am I picking up weird sexual tension between the romulan brother and sister? Why do shows keep doing this.

Yes you are.
Game of Thrones made it trendy.

[Abyss]

Permit me to summarize the key point...

Primateus, on 01 March 2020 - 09:41 AM, said:

Star Trek...you don't want it to change.

It's this.

See also Star Wars, BSG, Bird of Prey, etc etc. Nothing is allowed to change. Not ever.

There were people who lost absolutely their mindshits when Warren Ellis killed off Bazooka in GI JOE: RESOLUTE. In 2009. The character was an annoying comic relief to a kids cartoon that ended in 1986, but there they were screaming DAMN YOU WARREN ELLIS YOU KILLED ALL MY CHILDHOOD I FORGAVE YOU FOR THE GODZILLA BUKKAKE BUT NOT THIS NO NEVER THIS.

It's absurd.

[TheRetiredBridgeburner]

Abyss, on 03 March 2020 - 08:21 PM, said:

Cause, on 29 February 2020 - 02:40 AM, said:

Am I picking up weird sexual tension between the romulan brother and sister? Why do shows keep doing this.

Yes you are.
Game of Thrones made it trendy.

Absolutely - good to know I'm not the only one getting Jaime and Cersei vibes.

Abyss, on 03 March 2020 - 08:31 PM, said:

Permit me to summarize the key point...

Primateus, on 01 March 2020 - 09:41 AM, said:

Star Trek...you don't want it to change.

It's this.

See also Star Wars, BSG, Bird of Prey, etc etc. Nothing is allowed to change. Not ever.

There were people who lost absolutely their mindshits when Warren Ellis killed off Bazooka in GI JOE: RESOLUTE. In 2009. The character was an annoying comic relief to a kids cartoon that ended in 1986, but there they were screaming DAMN YOU WARREN ELLIS YOU KILLED ALL MY CHILDHOOD I FORGAVE YOU FOR THE GODZILLA BUKKAKE BUT NOT THIS NO NEVER THIS.

It's absurd.

Agreed. You forgot the Doctor Who fanbase, who are currently very angry everywhere.

[Abyss]

TheRetiredBridgeburner, on 04 March 2020 - 02:19 PM, said:

...

Agreed. You forgot the Doctor Who fanbase, who are currently very angry everywhere.

Ah yes, the WHAT DAMN YOU YOU CANNOT MAKE THE DOCTOR SERIOUS/SCOTTISH/EFFECTIVE/FUN/BI/FEMALE/BLACK NOOO MY CHILDHOOD WAAAAAAAH YAY BREXIT WAAAAAAHHHH camp.


I appreciate that tv production - and DiscoTrek and Picard are good examples of this - has started to accept that no matter what it does there will always be a loud angry voice complaining about it, and thus 'fuck that guy we're just gonna make a good show'. Movies are still trying to keep everyone and mostly China happy.

[TheRetiredBridgeburner]

Episode 7 - the best one yet, for me.

Spoiler

The Riker-Troi family dealing with the loss of Thad is one of the best depictions of healthy grief I've ever seen. Kestra's interaction with Sohji are wonderful and so authentic to what a child can sometimes reach and an adult can't.

GOD DAMN IT DEANNA TROI BEING THE SUPER HERO SHE ALWAYS WAS AND HER EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND EMPATHY TAKING CENTRE STAGE AS THE AMAZING QUALITIES THEY ALWAYS WERE.

Everything about Nepenthe was beautiful. I am in love with this episode.

[Cause]

its perhaps something ridiculous to get stuck on but I have watched Star fleet doctors cure deadly plagued in hours. I have seen the doctor create holographic lungs when someone had their own lungs stolen, I have seen him revive the dead .


It’s hard to believe that over years

Medical science works to the needs of the plot sure, I guess what stands out here is that it effected a real character

[Primateus]

I have to say, the holographic lungs thing never made any sense to me. That was simply a bit too much of a stretch for me.

[Serenity]

Not afraid to admit it, the moment Picard, off camera, said 'Hello Will', I had tears streaming down my face. I bloody loved this episode. It felt like it wasn't just Picard reuniting with old friends but me as well, just the warmth and emotion that seemed to emanate from the screen. Even the kid didn't annoy me

[Macros]

Great episode.

Be interesting to see hownthey deal with the coma

[Tsundoku]

Macros, on 09 March 2020 - 11:38 AM, said:

Great episode.

Be interesting to see hownthey deal with the coma

It was all a dream ...

Excellent ep. Anyone who didn't enjoy that sojourn on Nepanthe (sp?) is "... cold and dead inside ..."

Nice to see how they're treating Soji's dealing with her series of sudden world-shaking revelations.

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: 09 March 2020 - 12:12 PM

[Brujah]

Serenity, on 09 March 2020 - 08:16 AM, said:

Not afraid to admit it, the moment Picard, off camera, said 'Hello Will', I had tears streaming down my face. I bloody loved this episode. It felt like it wasn't just Picard reuniting with old friends but me as well, just the warmth and emotion that seemed to emanate from the screen. Even the kid didn't annoy me

Now, if we can only find a way to bottle this stuff up, millions of adults everywhere could TOO not be annoyed by their kids.

Oh yeah. Someone beat us to it. It's called Xanax.

Joking.

[Abyss]

Brujah, on 09 March 2020 - 01:00 PM, said:

Serenity, on 09 March 2020 - 08:16 AM, said:

Not afraid to admit it, the moment Picard, off camera, said 'Hello Will', I had tears streaming down my face. I bloody loved this episode. It felt like it wasn't just Picard reuniting with old friends but me as well, just the warmth and emotion that seemed to emanate from the screen. Even the kid didn't annoy me

Now, if we can only find a way to bottle this stuff up, millions of adults everywhere could TOO not be annoyed by their kids.

Oh yeah. Someone beat us to it. It's called alcohol.

Joking.

FTFY

[QuickTidal]

TheRetiredBridgeburner, on 06 March 2020 - 10:41 PM, said:

Episode 7 - the best one yet, for me.

Spoiler

The Riker-Troi family dealing with the loss of Thad is one of the best depictions of healthy grief I've ever seen. Kestra's interaction with Sohji are wonderful and so authentic to what a child can sometimes reach and an adult can't.

GOD DAMN IT DEANNA TROI BEING THE SUPER HERO SHE ALWAYS WAS AND HER EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND EMPATHY TAKING CENTRE STAGE AS THE AMAZING QUALITIES THEY ALWAYS WERE.

Everything about Nepenthe was beautiful. I am in love with this episode.

This this this!

EASILY the best ep they did, and it was fucking EFFORTLESS. Compared to some of the more narrow, and focused eps this season, this was a full hour of "breather" and as a result felt like the most Trek-y episode yet, and not just because of its wonderful guest stars...

I had a perma-grin when Riker called out the commands to fortify the house grounds...and when Troi was openly weeping about her son I was weepy too.

Did Sirtis and Frakes age REALLY well or is it me? They both look fantastic. I know Frakes was concerned about his age and mild weight gain being in the role again...but he looked exactly like an old Riker should look, and Sirtis looks like she barely aged at all.

Also, anyone else think Captain Crandall is Q?

I'm fairly certain he is.He came up with Sohji's home planet WAY too quick to be random.

Imagine a Q who after years of antagonizing them, and developing an affection for them, and then watching them lose their only son, strands himself on Nepenthe, disguises himself as an old ship captain, and watches over them from afar.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 10 March 2020 - 01:55 PM

[TheRetiredBridgeburner]

Please can we have a Q cameo? I'd be all over that.

Agreed on Frakes and Sirtis both aging very well indeed.

[QuickTidal]

TheRetiredBridgeburner, on 10 March 2020 - 03:00 PM, said:

Please can we have a Q cameo? I'd be all over that.

Agreed on Frakes and Sirtis both aging very well indeed.

I feel like a Q cameo was all but happening the minute Stewart signed onto this show. It's just a question of "when". De Lancie would be delighted to revisit the role, he loved playing Q.

But yeah, that Crandall thing isn't random to me...so I am guessing that's him.

------

after the reveal....

Picard: "Q, what are you doing here?"

Q (*somber*): "You were in no shape to look after them Jean-Luc, so I did."

[Tsundoku]

Nice to see they

Spoiler

made Kylie Jenner the baddie.

[TheRetiredBridgeburner]

I'm watching the finale later tonight, so this is as far as episode 9.

Spoiler

Seven saying "keep saving the galaxy Picard" through tears broke my heart.

I am enjoying the synthetic community preparing to become exactly what the Romulans fear angle. Pretty sure Sohji and Agnes are paying lip service and will not actually help Sutra, but it was a tense end to another great episode.

Loved the moment they brought the Borg cube through the conduit. Some very pretty visuals going on.

I AM NOT READY FOR TONIGHT.

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[QuickTidal]

Oh gods...that was beautiful. No spoilers...but I openly wept a few times.

[QuickTidal]

Okay spoilers now for the finale...

Spoiler

First things first, I would be remiss if I didn't mention I was disappointed in the fact that Q didn't show up...BUT I STILL think that he's that Captain that Riker's kid was talking about, and might show up in S2.

It was a great tie up to the whole story this season, especially Picard putting his money/body/life where his mouth is, by sacrificing himself, almost EMBRACING his conflicted past with his Locutus Borg form, and proving to the synths that not only was he wiling to put his life on the line to keep them safe...but seemingly has no issues becoming one as well (after it's put upon him by those who saved him).

I knew he wasn't going to die because of Season 2...but the moments following his death where people were mourning still hit me like a tonne of bricks, and especially Elnor and Raf...when she tells him to just cry and let it out...ugh, I was sobbing.

I'm glad Data finally got his end. The "human" end of life he'd always seemingly wanted in his striving to me human. It was lovely, and though I will miss Data...I'm sure Spiner will be around for a while yet.

The best moment? The fucking Federation showing up...and Riker leading the charge. Ask my wife, I left up off the couch, and the tears streamed down my face as that scene played out. My gods, I didn't know how much I needed to see a Federation Starship come to the rescue again...and Captained by Will Riker himself? Fuck me I NEEDED that.

Really looking fwd to S2 now! and glad they ran a Discovery teaser before this episode to remind us that will be coming along next! Can't wait!

[Malankazooie]

I've heard the complete season 1 is free to watch now. Is that true?