[QuickTidal]

Aptorian, on 03 August 2021 - 03:47 PM, said:

Episode 6 was stupid bullshit and if that is their setup for the Next Big Bad they fucked it all up.

It was his variant, not him in flesh (yet).

[Morgoth]

I really enjoyed the beginning of Loki, but I agree with Apt that they failed his character by the end. A Loki redemption ark should not be to make him more like a typical american idealised super hero or whatever. That just makes him as boring as all the other superheroes. At the end there should be only one true choice for the god of chaos, and preserving the artificially stagnant status quo is not it.

[Slow Ben]

Yep. Oddly enough I really enjoyed almost everything about the series, except most of Loki.

[Macros]

Agree somewhat on the 'humanising' of Loki.

Buuuuuutttt, it's Disney so not surprised.

I hope he will revert to type though, that snap smile he pulls when sneakyness is afoot belongs on the chaos god

[champ]

QuickTidal, on 03 August 2021 - 04:29 PM, said:

Aptorian, on 03 August 2021 - 03:47 PM, said:

Episode 6 was stupid bullshit and if that is their setup for the Next Big Bad they fucked it all up.

It was his variant, not him in flesh (yet).

I am happy if that is the case...

I was thinking if this version of...

Spoiler

Kang

Is the version we are going to get as the big bad for the next stage then this version is pretty lame, too quirky and jovial.

[Aptorian]

At the start of the show and especially during episode 5, I was certain that the time keepers were going to be:

Spoiler

Another Loki. Like in the old Warlock comics where Warlock discovers that the evil Cosmic Overlord he's trying to topple is an evil timeline version of himself.

[D'rek]

Aptorian, on 04 August 2021 - 03:45 PM, said:

At the start of the show and especially during episode 5, I was certain that the time keepers were going to be:

Spoiler

Another Loki. Like in the old Warlock comics where Warlock discovers that the evil Cosmic Overlord he's trying to topple is an evil timeline version of himself.

That would require actually using the time travel/alternate dimensions concept though. The writers who thought "we can have our big set pieces occur at any time and place in history... so how about some random shopping mall and a planet that was never mentioned ever before?" weren't going to come up with that

[QuickTidal]

Aptorian, on 04 August 2021 - 03:45 PM, said:

At the start of the show and especially during episode 5, I was certain that the time keepers were going to be:

Spoiler

Another Loki. Like in the old Warlock comics where Warlock discovers that the evil Cosmic Overlord he's trying to topple is an evil timeline version of himself.

To be fair, this is EXACTLY what flunked the endings of Wandavision and FATWS...they both aspired to something grander, and ended on really EXPECTED notes...

LOKI seemed like it was headed in the exact direction you suggest and I would have found that not only boring but a copout...so the way they went is way better, for me anyways.

D, on 04 August 2021 - 04:17 PM, said:

Aptorian, on 04 August 2021 - 03:45 PM, said:

At the start of the show and especially during episode 5, I was certain that the time keepers were going to be:

Spoiler

Another Loki. Like in the old Warlock comics where Warlock discovers that the evil Cosmic Overlord he's trying to topple is an evil timeline version of himself.

That would require actually using the time travel/alternate dimensions concept though. The writers who thought "we can have our big set pieces occur at any time and place in history... so how about some random shopping mall and a planet that was never mentioned ever before?" weren't going to come up with that

It's worth noting that the mall being ROXXCART is a planted piece of future MCU lore that hints at things to come. It's not just some mall. It's intentionally a ROXXCART mall.

ROXXON

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 04 August 2021 - 04:36 PM

[D'rek]

QuickTidal, on 04 August 2021 - 04:33 PM, said:

It's worth noting that the mall being ROXXCART is a planted piece of future MCU lore that hints at things to come. It's not just some mall. It's intentionally a ROXXCART mall.

ROXXON

Pfft, I doubt it. They just went and grabbed the reference, doesn't mean they are planning to do anything with it. Just like Nebula and Gamora being on planet Korbin didn't suddenly tie into a Beta Ray Bill movie the next year, or the infinity gauntlet in Thor ended up having to be retconned as fake, or the human torch suit in captain america, or...

[Abyss]

Likely accurate, but Roxxon's a really convenient Marvel easter egg and all purpose villainous corporation.
Whatever you need... throw them at the Eternals for immortality drugs, have them steal Tony's tech for Armor Wars, drilling in the sea to piss off Namor, genetic something something mutants, hostile takeover AIM from M.O.D.O.K....
You name it, Roxxon can do it.

[QuickTidal]

Briar King, on 18 August 2021 - 05:56 PM, said:

Ep 2 of What If was off the charts absolute fucking dope with fucking pie and fucking whip cream and you fuckers need to fucking watch it asfuckingp.

Excited to watch it. The last ever performance of Chadwick Boseman as T'Challa. He recorded it while he was quite sick near the end. Is it dedicated to him? I hope so.

[Tiste Simeon]

Can someone non-spoiler me about What If? I feel like the other shows appeared with quite a lot of pomp and flair whereas this just seems to have appeared!

[worry]

What do you want to know? If it's just the premise: It's based on a long-running Marvel series of one-off stories where alternate realities, and specifically intriguing questions, are explored (eg What if Mr. Fantastic ate Galactus? What if Professor X had a Mohawk? etc.). The show is the same thing, but it's embedded in the multiverse arc (or at least using it as a springboard). Also it's a cartoon, so it presumably can pull from a much wider roster.

Here's the new trailer for The Eternals:
A lot more color than the previous trailers, though it still looks pretty unique among the MCU. There's a little more info on the actual story. Maybe a little too much, if you wanna go in pure. But I think it's the best promo for the movie so far in terms of making me optimistic.

[QuickTidal]

worry, on 19 August 2021 - 01:41 PM, said:

What do you want to know? If it's just the premise: It's based on a long-running Marvel series of one-off stories where alternate realities, and specifically intriguing questions, are explored (eg What if Mr. Fantastic ate Galactus? What if Professor X had a Mohawk? etc.). The show is the same thing, but it's embedded in the multiverse arc (or at least using it as a springboard). Also it's a cartoon, so it presumably can pull from a much wider roster.

Here's the new trailer for The Eternals:
A lot more color than the previous trailers, though it still looks pretty unique among the MCU. There's a little more info on the actual story. Maybe a little too much, if you wanna go in pure. But I think it's the best promo for the movie so far in terms of making me optimistic.

Yeah, that trailer is SOOOOOOO much better than the first (which I already liked) simply because a lot of the prospective audience won't know that this is an MCU movie off that first trailer, but this one focuses hard down on that.

It also looks gorgeous and Chloe is bringing a sensibility to the visuals that I feel like will step up from what we've seen.

We were instructed to never interfere in human life unless the Deviants were involved...

BY WHO?

Cut to shot of a Celestial.

Fuuuuuuuuuuuck.

[Aptorian]

New Spider-Man No Way Home trailer is out.

Not going to link the thing because it's way too full of spoilers. It's like watching a two minute synopsis, so I stopped when I got the gist of the plot.

Pretty funny premise, though I wonder why Dr. Strange would go through with such a plan.

[Malankazooie]

Aw man, I watched it and now I'm angry at myself. There is quite a bit that is revealed. Buuuuuut, I wonder if this is somehow tied into the What If..? stuff and so there shouldn't be so much read into what is shown in the trailer? Isn't that something the MCU shows are trying to be clever with? The deal where they hopscotch a currently running property into the next one (be it Disney+ series or new movie)?

[EDIT] And dag gummit, of all the Marvel stuff I've seen, the Spider Man movies are probably my favorite.

This post has been edited by Malankazooie: 24 August 2021 - 04:54 AM

[Aptorian]

Haven't seen any official comments on the matter but I suspect they're going to use alternate timelines, connected to infinity stones shenanigans, as an excuse to replace the established set of actors, with alternate reality versions. It will give them room to tweak the characters and hire somebody who doesn't cost 50 million per movie.

[polishgenius]

I don't think that's what they're going for, though it'll be a way to reintroduce Cap and Iron Man in future if they want it. What I think they're doing now is meddling with alternate realities and timelines in order to bring the Fox properties into the 'verse without pretending they've all just shown up new at once.


They don't particularly need Infinity Stones to do either thing though.

[stone monkey]

After

Spoiler

the events of a certain tv show

they definitely don't need Infinity Stones for any of that

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]