[QuickTidal]

acesn8s, on 29 March 2015 - 08:08 PM, said:

Woah, woah, woah . . .

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since when was Judith Alfred's mother? The History channel just took a big shit on history right there.

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I'm fairly sure that Judith on the show is NOT the allegory of the classical Judith of Flanders (Aethelwulf's second wife), and is probably instead the allegory for his first wife Osburh (who had most of his children, including Alfred)...since Judith of Flanders was a Frankish princess whom Aethelwulf met on campaign in France, and on the show Judith is more in line with Osburh who was devoutly pious and was a native of his land. It makes more sense is all. That said, they also made Judith on the show the daughter of Aella of Northumbria (which is nonsense). So who really knows.

As well, speaking from a historical aspect it is only THOUGHT that Osburh was the mother of all Aethelwulf's children...Since the only info we have about Osburh comes in the form of Asser's book about Alfred...no other historical source records her in any detail, it's hard to be totally sure. The closeness of the birth of the children attributed to her, and Aethelwulf's marriage to Judith...at least could call into question parentage of Alfred.

At any rate, above and beyond Judith on the show not being Judith of Flander's proper allegory, I'm willing to see the actual history as foggy enough to buy what they are selling me.

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 30 March 2015 - 05:59 PM

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Jakovasaurus, on 30 March 2015 - 05:29 PM, said:

That's par for the course for The History Channel. In their Sons of Liberty miniseries they portrayed Sam Adams as an Assassin's Creed style escapists when he was running from British troops. I wouldn't get to caught up in the actual history of the subject matter they are portraying and just take it at face value as entertainment. They should probably change the name of the channel, as they are The "History" Channel in name only.

'The Alt-History' channel isn't nearly as catchy.

[Jakovasaurus]

Abyss, on 30 March 2015 - 07:14 PM, said:

Jakovasaurus, on 30 March 2015 - 05:29 PM, said:

That's par for the course for The History Channel. In their Sons of Liberty miniseries they portrayed Sam Adams as an Assassin's Creed style escapists when he was running from British troops. I wouldn't get to caught up in the actual history of the subject matter they are portraying and just take it at face value as entertainment. They should probably change the name of the channel, as they are The "History" Channel in name only.

'The Alt-History' channel isn't nearly as catchy.

"The Historyish Channel". Or borrowing from Stephen Colbert's "truthiness" : "The Historiness Channel"

[acesn8s]

The Historical Fiction channel would work for me.

[QuickTidal]

acesn8s, on 30 March 2015 - 08:35 PM, said:

The Historical Fiction channel would work for me.

Yep, that's what I'd call it too.

[Bulwyf]

acesn8s, on 30 March 2015 - 08:35 PM, said:

The Historical Fiction channel would work for me.

Historical Alien Origins!

[Jakovasaurus]

Holy shit! That could have been the best episode since last season's "Blood Eagle". Damn I got hyped at the beginning when they were embarking to lay siege on Paris. And then total decimation. Damn, that was action packed from the get go for about 50 minutes.

Heh. Rollo was all like "no fucks were given that day". Protip, if you're too fat to get up the siege tower, don't be on Rollo's watch. He won't send you back for other duties.

Damn, Floki could be broken now. Fuck.

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Briar King, on 10 April 2015 - 05:00 AM, said:

One negative is Rollo going shirtless into battle. I guess they are catering to female watchers? Going armorless into battle is so anti productive....

I can vouch for my wife, who drools at the TV screen when Rollo has his kit off. So yeah, I think it's working.

Whch is why we get Laegertha and Thorunn.

[acesn8s]

They could have sold the shirtless Rollo is they bothered to show a few injured vikings in armor sinking to the bottom of the rivers, while struggling to get out of a mail shirt.

Regardless, the crossbows at that range would punch through the mail anyways.

I didn't think they had crossbows in the 800s, but after a little research it appears it was possible.

[Abyss]

Shirtless Rollo was equal parts fan-padering and the whole Viking berserker running nekkid into bloodshed thing.
Also, the Seer's prediction suggests Rollo has nothing to worry about... he could be testing that. Rollo has a very complicated relationship with his gods.


Glorious ep overall in a hell of a strong season. This show just gets better and better.

[Jakovasaurus]

One of my favorite scenes from the episode.

[paran falcon]

QuickTidal, on 10 April 2015 - 10:01 AM, said:

Briar King, on 10 April 2015 - 05:00 AM, said:

One negative is Rollo going shirtless into battle. I guess they are catering to female watchers? Going armorless into battle is so anti productive....

I can vouch for my wife, who drools at the TV screen when Rollo has his kit off. So yeah, I think it's working.

Whch is why we get Laegertha and Thorunn.

This. My wife was actually miffed that Rollo clearly shaved/trimmed close his chest hair. I told her I'm pretty sure she's waaayy in the minority liking chest hair on a man these days!

Lagertha is just smoking hot!! Beautiful, intelligent and can wield a sword like a little demon! Right up my alley.

I was a little surprised that Ragnar sacrificed his warriors to that extent (and almost lost his son as a result) just to punish Floki. Ragnar seems about half mad and Floki is now completely around the bend, possibly for good, I think.

Also, having just seen the 3rd Hobbit movie and catching the small, crappy part that Linus Roache (the King of Wessex) got in it, I'm really impressed with his acting on Vikings. He is outstanding imo. The scene he had with Judith toward the end of the episode had me a little queasy. Does he want to sleep with his son's wife or is he just trying to keep her way off balance and under control?

Damn! Just looked up the show on IMDB to find out Linus Roache's name and found out the actress that plays Lagertha (Katheryn Winnick) is a martial artist with a third degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do and a second degree in Karate. Earl Kalf is definitely going to die. But he's going to have an immense amount of fun first!

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I really REALLY look forward to Lagatha's eventual revenge on Kalf.
I'm fairly sure it's going to make the Blood Eagle look like a relaxing Swedish massage.

...even tho' he totally saved her life on the bridge, of course it might have been more useful if he had just yelled 'DUCK' to everyone there.

Just rewatched the ep... Rollo actually stands with a bunch of shirtless dudes screaming 'BERSERKER' just before the battle.

Historically, no Viking horde ever sacked Paris, and i'm pretty sure the show won't depart from that, so it will be interesting to see how many times they're willing to try this.

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Abyss, on 11 April 2015 - 02:27 PM, said:

I really REALLY look forward to Lagatha's eventual revenge on Kalf.
I'm fairly sure it's going to make the Blood Eagle look like a relaxing Swedish massage.

...even tho' he totally saved her life on the bridge, of course it might have been more useful if he had just yelled 'DUCK' to everyone there.

Just rewatched the ep... Rollo actually stands with a bunch of shirtless dudes screaming 'BERSERKER' just before the battle.

Historically, no Viking horde ever sacked Paris, and i'm pretty sure the show won't depart from that, so it will be interesting to see how many times they're willing to try this.

Siege of Paris 845 or somesuch. The vikings took the city and were paid thousands of killograms of silver and gold to leave

This post has been edited by Cause: 13 April 2015 - 10:54 AM

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Cause, on 13 April 2015 - 10:53 AM, said:

Abyss, on 11 April 2015 - 02:27 PM, said:

I really REALLY look forward to Lagatha's eventual revenge on Kalf.
I'm fairly sure it's going to make the Blood Eagle look like a relaxing Swedish massage.

...even tho' he totally saved her life on the bridge, of course it might have been more useful if he had just yelled 'DUCK' to everyone there.

Just rewatched the ep... Rollo actually stands with a bunch of shirtless dudes screaming 'BERSERKER' just before the battle.

Historically, no Viking horde ever sacked Paris, and i'm pretty sure the show won't depart from that, so it will be interesting to see how many times they're willing to try this.

Siege of Paris 845 or somesuch. The vikings took the city and were paid thousands of killograms of silver and gold to leave

Yeah, I was gonna say...I was pretty sure the vikings HAD sacked Paris at one point.

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QuickTidal, on 13 April 2015 - 11:10 AM, said:

Cause, on 13 April 2015 - 10:53 AM, said:

Abyss, on 11 April 2015 - 02:27 PM, said:

I really REALLY look forward to Lagatha's eventual revenge on Kalf.
I'm fairly sure it's going to make the Blood Eagle look like a relaxing Swedish massage.

...even tho' he totally saved her life on the bridge, of course it might have been more useful if he had just yelled 'DUCK' to everyone there.

Just rewatched the ep... Rollo actually stands with a bunch of shirtless dudes screaming 'BERSERKER' just before the battle.

Historically, no Viking horde ever sacked Paris, and i'm pretty sure the show won't depart from that, so it will be interesting to see how many times they're willing to try this.

Siege of Paris 845 or somesuch. The vikings took the city and were paid thousands of killograms of silver and gold to leave

Yeah, I was gonna say...I was pretty sure the vikings HAD sacked Paris at one point.

I stand corrected - i thought it was 'just' a siege.

[Jakovasaurus]

Damn, I thought the shield maidens going all assassin's creed for siege attempt 2 was going to work..... until boiling oil came a poring through the murder hole.

Heh, that beheading scene. Classic prank by Siegfried. You 'ol cutup you.

Damn, how Ragnar has been feeling is how I feel after eating at Taco Bell (minus the urinating blood). Well, I don't piss that much blood after eating at Taco Bell.

Damn, I wonder how Floki is going to react to Ragnar's demonstration of faith.

[EDIT] Oh yeah, once again Rollo was all like: "not one fuck was given that day"

This post has been edited by Jakovasaurus: 17 April 2015 - 03:17 AM

[acesn8s]

I liked this episode better than the previous one.

I think Rollo has an admirer on the other side of the wall, that's why he keeps showing off.

That spiked spindle was awesome. I want to see some stuff like that in the walking dead. Crank up the A-Team's theme song, bust out the welders, and make some death machines.

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acesn8s, on 20 April 2015 - 06:54 PM, said:

I think Rollo has an admirer on the other side of the wall, that's why he keeps showing off.

Considering who Rollo was historically, I'm pretty sure you're right.

[acesn8s]

QuickTidal, on 20 April 2015 - 07:15 PM, said:

acesn8s, on 20 April 2015 - 06:54 PM, said:

I think Rollo has an admirer on the other side of the wall, that's why he keeps showing off.

Considering who Rollo was historically, I'm pretty sure you're right.

I completely missed that connection. D'Oh!