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Posted 18 September 2025 - 08:46 PM

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Trump Threatens Licenses of TV Stations That Criticize Him

"When you have a network and you have evening shows, and all they do is hit Trump," Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One on Thursday. "I would think maybe their license should be taken away."

[...] Trump's comments represent a startling break with the nation's long-standing traditions of freedom of speech and of the press enshrined in the US Constitution.

Congressional Republicans have either been silent on these matters or backed the president. On Thursday, several key GOP lawmakers said the decision to take Kimmel off the air was the media ABC's decision — not the FCC's.

Trump Threatens Licenses of TV Stations That Criticize Him - Yahoo Finance


On the bright side, the Attorney General is backtracking on her public vow to selectively investigate and prosecute people for "hate speech"---while strongly implying that she meant people celebrating Charlie Kirk's death, calling MAGA fascists fascists or Nazis, etc. Denies she meant what she very clearly stated. .

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Posted 19 September 2025 - 07:49 AM

Does anyone else find it profoundly funny (in the way that if you don't laugh you will just despair) that the alt-reich have spent years being incredibly racist/sexist/bigoted under the guise of 'dark humour' and 'fuck your feelings' but when someone makes a comment in passing that is not canonizing someone they liked, they go full cancel culture because of their hurt feelings?
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Posted 19 September 2025 - 08:44 AM

It's essentially irrelevant. Internal consistency isn't their goal, expelling, enslaving, or exterminating enemies and undesirables is. If you're looking for an underlying rule, it's amassing the power to do that (which is also why so-called 'populists' break bread with the most powerful people on earth). Being violent macho racists towards enemies, and being wounded innocents when their enemies stand slightly askew of the line, are not contradictions to anyone in that in-group, there's no perception of irony. Or in certain circles, where irony is a chief attribute, wearing that contradiction on your sleeve unscathed is a sign of power. They indulge in it.

I heard it put this way, and I'll post the longer video below, but it's like this: "The right-wing in America has what seems to be dual monopolies: a monopoly on freely inflicting stochastic and physical violence, and a monopoly on victimhood." I'm sure you've seen the same in the UK. It's why it is worse to be called a Nazi than to be one. When the right ascends, reality breaks down.



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Posted 19 September 2025 - 08:52 AM

About sums it up for me:

The cancellation of Jimmy Kimmel after government pressure puts it beyond doubt: Donald Trump is against freedom of speech
So many years, and words, complaining about censorship. But the right’s commitment to free speech has turned out to be flimsier than tissue paper.

https://www.news.com...203ac72a4fc27ab

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Sitting down to write about the actions of the second Trump administration, day after day, feels a bit like having “the talk” with your kid over and over again, in perpetuity.

I don’t mean that in a patronising way. I mean that I’m being incredibly uncool. I’m the nerd raising his hand in class to point out that the teacher forgot to demand his peers’ homework. I am the HR manager telling workers to keep it in their pants. I’m the guy pushing his glasses up his nose and saying, “Umm sorry, actually the US President technically doesn’t have the power to do that, under the law, and it’s sort of disturbing that he would even try.”

The point is that I know full well, before even touching the keyboard, I’m about to come across as an insufferable little killjoy.

This is simply not the case when you talk about other politicians. I could write a scathing takedown of Anthony Albanese today, having a go at his climate policies or something – pick whichever annoying trait you like, he has plenty – and no one would cock an eyebrow.

But Donald Trump? Oh, that’s different. A lot of you, the moment you read that first line, rolled your eyes and thought, “Here we go. Someone in the media ranting about President Trump again. What a surprise.”

And I understand why. Really, I do. It’s all too serious, too finger-waggy, too relentless. The man seemingly can’t do or say anything without the self-appointed political correctness police throwing a tantrum.

But he’s in a serious job, with serious power, claiming to be a serious human being. And when he uses that power for serious purposes, we have to talk about it. Seriously. Sorry if you find it tiresome.

So. The Jimmy Kimmel cancellation. That’s an interesting barometer for hypocrisy, isn’t it? The same people who have spent years complaining about cancel culture now support the US government pressuring a TV network, successfully, to ditch a comedian because he said something they didn’t like.

Embedded, in that paragraph, is the factor that distinguishes Kimmel’s situation from those of other celebrities who’ve got in trouble for voicing stupid opinions.

This is not a case of Kimmel’s employer disciplining him off its own bat. It’s a case of his employer, America’s ABC, punishing him after explicit pressure from the government.

Mr Trump’s handpicked head of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), which regulates a decent chunk of the American media, could not have been much clearer when he spoke to a pro-MAGA podcast yesterday, hours before Kimmel was suspended.

“Look, we can do this the easy way or the hard way,” said Brendan Carr.

“These companies can find ways to change conduct and take action, frankly, on Kimmel, or there’s going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.”

I should provide the full context, for all of this.

Here is the bit of Kimmel’s monologue, on Monday night’s edition of his show, that triggered threats of reprisal from the government, against his network, and ultimately got him suspended indefinitely.

“We hit some new lows over the weekend, with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterise this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” said Kimmel.

“In between the finger pointing, there was grieving. On Friday, the White House flew the flags at half mast, which got some criticism. But on a human level, you can see how hard the President is taking this.”

He then played a clip of Mr Trump being asked about the murder during a press gaggle.

“My condolences on the loss of your friend, Charlie Kirk. May I ask, sir, personally, how are you holding up?” a reporter asks in the footage.

“I think very good,” says Mr Trump.

“And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks? They just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House, which is something they’ve been trying to get as you know for about 150 years. And it’s going to be a beauty.”

“Yes, he’s at the fourth stage of grief: construction,” Kimmel said.

“This is not how an adult grieves the murder of someone he called a friend. This is how a four-year-old mourns a goldfish.”

The most problematic part there is Kimmel claiming MAGA-world was “desperately trying to characterise” Mr Kirk’s killer as “anything other than one of them”, which is being interpreted as him saying the shooter definitely was one of them.

That’s actually not how I read it. As I heard it, he was mocking MAGA for rushing so very, very eagerly to label the murderer a radical leftist before much was actually known about him. You could make the same point, by the way, about lefty idiots on Twitter who immediately insisted he wasn’t one of them, but Kimmel does have a political bias.

For the sake of argument, though, let’s take the least charitable interpretation of Kimmel’s monologue as true, and stipulate that he was wrong. Does that justify the government of the United States going out of its way to tell ABC it should act against Kimmel or face regulatory consequences?

Two comments here from Mr Carr, one from 2019 and the other from yesterday.

“Should the government censor speech it doesn’t like? Of course not. The FCC does not have a roving mandate to police speech in the name of the public interest.” That’s the older quote.

“We at the FCC are going to enforce the public interest obligation. If there’s broadcasters out there that don’t like it, they can turn their licence in.” That’s the newer one.

Gee, I wonder what changed between those two quotes. Could it be as simple as whose hands are now on the levers of the FCC’s power? Could it be that folks like Mr Carr do not actually give a rat’s ass about the principle of free speech, unless it’s protecting their own side?

His stance is, if anything, more moderate than the President’s.

“Maybe their licences should be taken away,” Mr Trump said today, referring to media companies that publish criticism of him.

It’s the sort of comment that could have been brushed aside, easily enough, seven years ago; that could have been dismissed as the President talking out his backside, as is his habit. But at some point, when a guy has been in power long enough, you have to reckon with the idea that he might actually believe the words that come out of his mouth.

Imagine a universe in which Joe Biden fantasised about revoking the licence of Fox News, or OAN, or Newsmax, because whichever network had managed to piss him off that day was too mean. The word “censorship” would feature heavily in that discourse. The rants about “cancel culture” would, justifiably, flow.

Where are the free speech warriors now? Where is Elon Musk, who celebrated Mr Trump’s victory in last year’s election as though it heralded a new golden age of free expression? All those tweets expended complaining about woke cancel culture, but when their own side is doing the cancelling, there’s not a word to be written.

Donald Trump himself was still employed by NBC, as host of The Apprentice, during the years he spent as America’s most prominent birther conspiracy theorist, advancing the false idea that the country’s first Black president, Barack Obama, was from Africa and therefore ineligible for the job. Mr Obama was, in fact, born in Hawaii, an American state.

You’d forgotten about the birther thing, hadn’t you? Yes, it’s true, the current commander-in-chief was previously the birther-in-chief, a title now coveted for entirely different, much more nauseating reasons by Mr Musk. But so much water has passed under the bridge since Mr Trump’s birther days that we may as well be reminiscing about the Korean War.

Did the Obama-run FCC pressure NBC to fire him? Did network executives have to worry about being punished, by the government, if Mr Trump remained on air? No. Mr Obama made some dumb jokes about Mr Trump at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner, his soon-to-be successor sat in the crowd boiling like a kettle and plotting vengeance, and then most people moved on with their lives.

How do we think the folks currently gloating about Kimmel’s suspension would have reacted, if the Obama administration had actively tried to get Mr Trump fired from NBC? Do we think they’d have been fine and dandy with an Obama appointee threatening to sic the regulator on the network in retaliation for his opinions?

I could write you 5000 words today, if I were being unusually succinct, detailing example after example after example of Trump allies, and Mr Trump himself, saying obviously false, sometimes defamatory, sometimes quite unhinged things on TV and radio.

(My favourite and also silliest example of this is probably the obsessive belief, of one right-wing personality, that the French President’s wife secretly has a penis, which has prompted the Macrons to give scientific proof to a court that she’s a woman. Hilariously weird stuff.)

We know full well that Mr Carr will not be pursuing any pro-Trump voices for airing misinformation. We know full well that his only targets, for as long as he holds the post, will be people or organisations the President doesn’t like.

The more this happens, the less you get to complain about the accusations that Mr Trump has authoritarian leanings, because every day those charges ring a little truer.

The Jimmy Kimmel thing would be troubling enough on its own. Its significance grows greatly when placed in the context of an administration, and a President leading it, who have displayed a much broader pattern of censorious behaviour.

A few days ago, Vice President JD Vance urged Americans to tattle on people who were saying bad things about Mr Kirk after his death. Mr Vance essentially told them to call those people’s employers and try to get them fired.

Meanwhile, Attorney-General Pam Bondi suggested the administration would go after critics of Mr Kirk for “hate speech”, First Amendment be damned.

You will find no clearer example of cancer culture run amok.

This week Mr Trump announced he was suing The New York Times for $US15 billion over articles he felt were too mean to him. He previously bled 60 Minutes for millions of dollars over its routine editing of an interview with Kamala Harris. And that isn’t even the only ridiculous settlement, agreed to by a media organisation, since he resumed office.

Also this week, Mr Trump threatened to rat out an Australian reporter to Prime Minister Anthony Albanese for daring to ask whether it was appropriate for him to have so many business interests, as President, and to be profiting from his influence over American government policy.

What else? When CBS recently cancelled another late night comedian, Stephen Colbert, despite his relatively strong ratings, it insisted the decision was “not related in any way” to the “content” of his show, but was “purely a financial decision”. Which may be true.

But it did not escape the notice, of more cynical observers, that when Colbert was chopped, CBS’s parent company just happened to be seeking approval for a multi-billion dollar merger from the Trump-run FCC.

“Government censorship of speech is intolerable in a free society.”

That’s a quote from one of the symbolic executive orders signed, this year, by Mr Trump.

The order accuses the Biden administration of curtailing people’s free speech and forcing private businesses to “moderate, deplatform, or otherwise suppress speech that the federal government did not approve”.

The absurdity of being lectured about freedom of speech by someone who is, frankly by far, the most hostile US President towards speech rights of my lifetime. What a strange situation that is. An anti-cancel culture President who endorses, indeed celebrates, the cancellation of some TV comedian, using government power, for making an unfunny joke that could, depending on your personal interpretation of his meaning, be incorrect.

Jimmy Kimmel could stay on air for years without saying anything more ridiculous, or worthier of scorn.
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Posted 22 September 2025 - 02:32 PM

Despite no credible science to the claim the White House is likely to announce that Tylenol is the cause of autism in children.

How did we get here. The damage this will do to the CDCs credibility is incalculable. So long as RFK leads it, it cannot be trusted.
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Posted 22 September 2025 - 03:06 PM

View PostCause, on 22 September 2025 - 02:32 PM, said:

Despite no credible science to the claim the White House is likely to announce that Tylenol is the cause of autism in children.

How did we get here. The damage this will do to the CDCs credibility is incalculable. So long as RFK leads it, it cannot be trusted.


Notice that it's Tylenol the brand and not "Acetaminophen" which tells you how ridiculous the claim is...now the other question is does Tylenol take the accusation lying down like Disney, or do they sue them.
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Posted 22 September 2025 - 03:13 PM

I am willing to bet the lawyers have the briefs ready to go and will file the day of the announcement.
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Posted 22 September 2025 - 03:33 PM

View PostCause, on 22 September 2025 - 03:13 PM, said:

I am willing to bet the lawyers have the briefs ready to go and will file the day of the announcement.


Almost certainly. I would love to see them argue that the brand Tylenol is somehow causing autism having only existed since 1955...but Acetaminophen (which is what it is) has existed since at least the 1850's....and never mind that autistic traits have existed for far longer than the invention of the drug. Hell, the mythological "Fairies took our babies and returned them different"... tales involving young children being taken by fairies or other beings, and replaced by changelings. These children were "unresponsive, resistant to affection, did not express emotion, cried a lot or did not speak." ....like you could not better describe some deeply on the spectrum people as that. Deeper still is the fact that the man who coined the term autism, suggested that it was an offshoot/branch of Schizophrenia...an affliction that has been legitimately recorded since 1000 years BCE...and a slew of times after that...

So yeah, it's wildly dumb on the face of it, never mind the deeper dive...but odds are the ill-educated MAGAt's will lap it up with a spoon nonetheless.
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Posted 22 September 2025 - 04:45 PM

So much terrible stuff has been happening that I've been too depressed to post about it.

Plus Trump has now said that stories critical of him are illegal. Not "should be"; are... but he did hedge it with "I think" and "personally": "See, I think that's really illegal, personally".

https://www.thedaily...im-are-illegal/

Fwiw here's a lengthy excerpt from my conversation with DeepSeek about this and some related issues:

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Well, here's hoping that when I end up in the gulag it's in Alaska and not Greenland or Canada. Or the moon...

If they (and we) live long enough, Musk would probably petition Trump to send us to a penal colony on Mars to conduct human experiments. Conducted by my beloved and multifarious AI robots, of course.

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Posted 22 September 2025 - 05:07 PM

View PostCause, on 22 September 2025 - 02:32 PM, said:

Despite no credible science to the claim the White House is likely to announce that Tylenol is the cause of autism in children.

How did we get here. The damage this will do to the CDCs credibility is incalculable. So long as RFK leads it, it cannot be trusted.


The thing that truly bugs me about this entire Tylenol nonsense is that it screams 'distraction'... this is the right hand doing something loud and stupid, what's the left hand doing?


....other than shutting down criticism from late night hosts, conferring w Israel on bad ideas, slapping tariffs on random things, shuffling authority to federal agencies to punish dem states....
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Posted 22 September 2025 - 05:08 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 22 September 2025 - 03:33 PM, said:

View PostCause, on 22 September 2025 - 03:13 PM, said:

I am willing to bet the lawyers have the briefs ready to go and will file the day of the announcement.


Almost certainly. I would love to see them argue that the brand Tylenol is somehow causing autism having only existed since 1955...but Acetaminophen (which is what it is) has existed since at least the 1850's....and never mind that autistic traits have existed for far longer than the invention of the drug. Hell, the mythological "Fairies took our babies and returned them different"... tales involving young children being taken by fairies or other beings, and replaced by changelings. These children were "unresponsive, resistant to affection, did not express emotion, cried a lot or did not speak." ....like you could not better describe some deeply on the spectrum people as that. Deeper still is the fact that the man who coined the term autism, suggested that it was an offshoot/branch of Schizophrenia...an affliction that has been legitimately recorded since 1000 years BCE...and a slew of times after that...

So yeah, it's wildly dumb on the face of it, never mind the deeper dive...but odds are the ill-educated MAGAt's will lap it up with a spoon nonetheless.


Well Im sure they do mean acetaminophen and not Tylenol. The brand is more recognized than the drug incredient (Even acetominophen is not the 'True name', europe and SA call it paracetamol, it depend which functional groups you think are most important I guess.). However if they use the brand name it is harming the brand directly, even if they use the drug name it could be proved the government announcement is not based on fact but will still hurt drug sales. I am certain they are opening themselves up to massive liability.

The studies linking Tylenol to autism are weak and studies with controls show its likey a cause of "correlation is not causation". Its just one of the mostly widley taken drugs for pain and fevers.
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Posted 22 September 2025 - 05:14 PM

View PostAbyss, on 22 September 2025 - 05:07 PM, said:

View PostCause, on 22 September 2025 - 02:32 PM, said:

Despite no credible science to the claim the White House is likely to announce that Tylenol is the cause of autism in children.

How did we get here. The damage this will do to the CDCs credibility is incalculable. So long as RFK leads it, it cannot be trusted.


The thing that truly bugs me about this entire Tylenol nonsense is that it screams 'distraction'... this is the right hand doing something loud and stupid, what's the left hand doing?


....other than shutting down criticism from late night hosts, conferring w Israel on bad ideas, slapping tariffs on random things, shuffling authority to federal agencies to punish dem states....


Oh this is a distraction. Problem is the distractions the white house is employing are so massive they are becoming the very stories that need new distractions. This announcement was teased a month ago to distrract from epstein. However it will effectivly make the US goverment an untrustworthy source for medical recomendations. Are vaccines safe, does tylenol cause autism, should I get a covid shot this year, are a few measles deaths a year a good thing since it confers natural immunity.

Pressuring networks to fire late night talk show hosts has gone from a distraction to the very real and dangerous errosion of the first amendment.


Edit: how could I forget panicking thousands and plunging companies into further chaos with an extortion demand of 100k per h1b visa. The order as written even seems to backdate the demand for money?

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Posted 22 September 2025 - 10:02 PM

ABC are back tracking on Kimmel?
Will they?
How spectacular will shit heads meltdown over that be?

Some mention the Epstien files again whilst he's mid tirade, push him over the edge
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Posted 22 September 2025 - 10:34 PM

View PostMacros, on 22 September 2025 - 10:02 PM, said:

ABC are back tracking on Kimmel?
Will they?
How spectacular will shit heads meltdown over that be?

Some mention the Epstien files again whilst he's mid tirade, push him over the edge


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MAGA Rages at Kimmel Comeback and Demands its Own Boycott

Fox News contributor Clay Travis suggested the Trump administration should bring even more strong-arm tactics to bear on Iger's company, including leveraging Disney's planned deal with the NFL which would make it s 10% holder of ESPN at the same time as the NFL Network being folded into ESPN. That deal will be subject to regulatory approval, which Travis said should be used to force "changes" to Kimmel and other ABC shows. [...] "the Trump Administration needs to look aggressively at that potential [National Football League] acquisition and say, 'Is Disney [and] ABC really trying to speak to all of America? If they won't do it on a late night show, will they do it with sports?'"

[...] "Disney ABC let the WOKE Mob get to them and decided to bring back Jimmy Kimmel [...] "TIME TO BOYCOTT DISNEY."


MAGA and Turning Point USA MAGA Rages at Kimmel Jimmy Comeback and Demands its Own Boycott



And in case anyone missed it... this is an actual comment (on a tweet) by FCC head Brendan Carr (forum won't let me post the animated gif, so best to see it for yourself):

https://x.com/druidD...473794470658126

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Turns out that section of Project 2025 was written by... Brendan Carr.

https://www.msnbc.co...enda-rcna232517


[Edit: if that link to the Twitter thread only shows the post he was replying to because you're not logged in or whatever, you can see his reply at:

https://x.com/Brenda...521297974923696

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Posted 23 September 2025 - 11:53 AM

If paracetemol causes autism does codeine cause double autism
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Posted 23 September 2025 - 12:06 PM

View PostMaark Abbott, on 23 September 2025 - 11:53 AM, said:

If paracetemol causes autism does codeine cause double autism


I want one of the reporters to just ask them about where autism came from as a term, and show how the link to something the original man who coined the term was referring to a type of schizophrenia and that diagnosis goes back thousands of years...so how could an invention in the last century and a half cause it.

That would shut down all of this hard.

But no...because the media are complicit.
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Posted 23 September 2025 - 12:38 PM

View PostMaark Abbott, on 23 September 2025 - 11:53 AM, said:

If paracetemol causes autism does codeine cause double autism


If you're already autistic, does paracetamol increase your powers? Asking for, um, a friend. Definitely not me wondering if my powers are in some way limitless Posted Image
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Posted 23 September 2025 - 12:57 PM

View PostTheRetiredBridgeburner, on 23 September 2025 - 12:38 PM, said:

View PostMaark Abbott, on 23 September 2025 - 11:53 AM, said:

If paracetemol causes autism does codeine cause double autism


If you're already autistic, does paracetamol increase your powers? Asking for, um, a friend. Definitely not me wondering if my powers are in some way limitless Posted Image


I saw a great tweet that was like a text to someone's mom:

"Did you take paracetamol during pregnancy? If so I'm blaming my autism on you.

Nothing to do with having a dad that can name any 80's car by one headlight"

.....


Which reminds me of when we told my dad about my sons ADHD diagnosis, he said "We didn't have that when I was a kid...I was just rambunctious and my sisters had to take me outside so I would not drive your grandma nuts".....this from the same man who is OCD to the nth degree (if I move pens on his desk a little askew...he notices and gets annoyed)...but yeah dad....ADHD didn't exist when you were a kid.

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Posted 23 September 2025 - 01:33 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 23 September 2025 - 12:06 PM, said:

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But no...because the media are complicit.



"President Tang says stupid things again to distract from real bad things he's doing, angry at us for pointing this out." isn't a story.

"US President Trump States That Tylenol Causes Autism" is a STORY.
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Posted 23 September 2025 - 02:10 PM

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Disney's statement [announcing Kimmel's reinstatement] comes on the heels of the company losing so many subscribers to its Disney+ platform that the subscription cancellation page reportedly crashed. Business Insider reported that even Americans who didn't personally watch Jimmy Kimmel's show viewed his suspension as "the last straw" and decided to cancel not only their Disney+ and Hulu subscriptions, but to also no longer take Disney cruises or visit Disney theme parks. The Walt Disney Company lost roughly 2 percent of its total market cap in roughly a week, amounting to several billion dollars.

Kimmel's return was praised on social media, though many journalists, political commentators and others observed that the company's decision was almost certainly financially motivated.

https://www.alternet...-boycott-trump/


Wonder how many actors/writers/etc. and theme park workers were also threatening to boycott working for Disney and its properties...

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Needham said on Tuesday it believes media and entertainment giant Disney (NYSE:DIS) would be better off shutting down its ABC network and taking a one-time hit rather than selling it.

[...] "We ignore the value destroyed in the ABC affiliate network and the public policy value destroyed by losing ABC as an independent voice because FCC intervention has made owning broadcasting licenses too expensive and too volatile for DIS shareholders, in our view," Needham said in its research note. "We do NOT recommend that DIS try to sell ABC because that requires FCC consent to transfer those licenses."

Needham thinks Disney should shutter ABC network following the Jimmy Kimmel controversy (DIS:NYSE) | Seeking Alpha


Trump and MAGA would be so happy if Trump's fascist goons got ABC shut down... oh and nobody here mentioned that Fox News and other MAGA-friendly companies are going to be controlling TikTok. Might as well just change the name to MAGATok...

Kasparov: "2026 is the battlefield"

https://www.theatlan...lefield/684291/

To which I'd add: perhaps literally. If there's a mass popular uprising in response to Trump blatantly stealing the election or refusing to allow Democrats to replace Republicans in Congress on the basis of false election fraud claims, and Trump controls enough of the military (as he seems to, having apparently purged the military leadership) to feel confident attempting an auto-coup but a significant enough percentage tries to fight against Trump's forces.

Of course there's the question of what Canada would do in the event of a US civil war. A friend of mine had Google Gemini Deep Research generate possible scenarios... and it suggested that the northern blue states would secede and join Canada---which I don't see happening. (Some sort of economic alliance though? Sure.) OTOH Trump might have a very difficult time occupying the blue cities given current technology, even with the support of much of the local police and rural areas inside blue states. (Maybe he'd start letting more white supremacists out of prison to help out?)

Really doubt any other countries would try to directly intervene militarily---at least in the short term. Even if proximity to the US probably rules out even someone as reckless as Trump nuking Canada or Mexico (unless he thinks that he's about to die or get thrown in prison anyway... then he might choose to reduce as much of the world as he can to radioactive ashes---if he can find zealots loyal enough---either to Trump, to their ridiculous delusional religion, to hatred, or to fear for their own lives if they disobey---to let him do that...).

This post has been edited by Azath Vitr (D'ivers: 23 September 2025 - 02:12 PM

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