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#15401 Macros

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Posted Today, 04:03 PM

Apparently its Southparks fault

I have to laugh at that 'this is the American Reichstag fire', bro you do know the 'communist'that did it was a mentally impaired patsy that the Nazis used to burn the fucking Reichstag down, you are now suggesting that the right did this as a flase flag to create a pretence to bring in a brutal dictatorship.
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#15402 QuickTidal

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Posted Today, 05:12 PM

FBI released couple of photos of the suspect...

It's a tall, white dude with some sort of American flag shirt on...

Quelle surprise.

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#15403 Azath Vitr (D'ivers

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Posted Today, 05:36 PM

QuickTidal, on 11 September 2025 - 05:12 PM, said:

FBI released couple of photos of the suspect...

It's a tall, white dude with some sort of American flag shirt on...

Quelle surprise.

FWIW:

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Bullets recovered after Charlie Kirk's assassination were engraved with "transgender and antifascist ideology," a law enforcement source told The Wall Street Journal.

Citing "an internal law enforcement bulletin and a person familiar with the investigation," the paper reported that the ammunition was found inside a .30 caliber hunting rifle that was ditched in a wooded area at Utah Valley University [...] Three unspent rounds were in the magazine, "all with wording on them."

[...] The FBI said Thursday that it believes a bolt-action rifle was left in the woods by Kirk's killer while fleeing through the area. It made no mention of bullet engravings.

Charlie Kirk Sniper's Ammo Has 'Trans Ideology and Anti-Fascist' Engravings: Cops - The Daily Beast

Granted, could be ambiguous wording that's getting misinterpreted. Or law enforcement just outright lying yet again. But I'd expect WSJ to try to stick to more reliable sources---at least in terms of not telling outright lies. Then again the far right might be purposefully abusing that expectation.

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#15404 worry

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Posted Today, 05:55 PM

I don't think that's worth much, at this time.

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#15405 Whisperzzzzzzz

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Posted Today, 05:59 PM

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#15406 worry

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Posted Today, 06:12 PM

The flag shirt is from the Disabled Veterans National Foundation btw (you can find version of it on ebay fairly readily). Wouldn't yet take that as a partisan or right-wing symbol yet either. It is true -- as Whisperzzzz's post suggests -- that he was reviled by certain sects of the far right at least as much as on the left. Even if he trafficked in Nazi beliefs because that's what helps you rise up the GOP ladder, he was still clearly a poseur when compared to real hardcore true believers. But I don't know if this guy in the photos looks like one of those folks either. Might just wind up being one of those mentally ill guys with real mixed up 'politics' (if any), mostly paranoid grabbag nonsense, like the second guy who tried to get Trump at the golf course last year.

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#15407 QuickTidal

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Posted Today, 06:18 PM

worry, on 11 September 2025 - 06:12 PM, said:

Indeed. A disabled veterans shirt at least more definitively points to this someone being ex-military.

And yeah I think mentally ill is probably the most apt moniker at this point, regardless of political affiliation.

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#15408 HoosierDaddy

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Posted Today, 06:18 PM

That gun was definitely anti-human. It had the chance to be anti-deer or anti-mountain lion. It chose to hate humans and therefore it should be prosecuted under our most stringent of hate crime laws.

Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....

#15409 worry

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Posted Today, 06:30 PM

QuickTidal, on 11 September 2025 - 06:18 PM, said:

worry, on 11 September 2025 - 06:12 PM, said:

Tbc I just meant that as an additional option, not a conclusion -- I'm fully in "wait and see" mode still.

Anyways, here's some light cyberpunky reading for those interested in the motivations of a lot of seemingly arbitrary violence lately: https://en.wikipedia...4_(organization)

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