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#13261 User is offline   QuickTidal 

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 02:18 PM

Holy shit.


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Posted 13 January 2021 - 02:23 PM

One last note: Haberman and the two others writing the article got a quote from John Yoo, the guy who came up with the awful attempt at legal justification for torture during the beginning parts of the Iraq invasion.

His time after being in the GWB administration has shown that he's a well connected and shitty legal opinion guy. Somehow, the reporters writing this don't see that or present his opinions in that context.

My brain hurts a bit trying to understand why Haberman likes to suck up so much.
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Posted 13 January 2021 - 02:27 PM

Ayanna Pressley and her chief of staff were barricading themselves in their office only to find out that all of their panic buttons (each representative is supposed to have them in their office) had been ripped out: https://www.bostongl...tts-delegation/

"As people rushed out of other buildings on the Capitol grounds, staffers in Pressleyís office barricaded the entrance with furniture and water jugs that had piled up during the pandemic. Groh pulled out gas masks and looked for the special panic buttons in the office.

ďEvery panic button in my office had been torn out ó the whole unit,Ē she said, though they could come up with no rationale as to why. She had used them before and hadnít switched offices since then. As they were escorted to several different secure locations, Groh and Pressley and her husband tried to remain calm and vigilant ó not only of rioters but of officers they did not know or trust, she said."
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Posted 13 January 2021 - 03:02 PM

Representative Mikie Sherrill says she saw certain other representatives taking people on guided tours the day before and believes that was preparation for the riot.

She did not name the ones she saw.

https://amp.northjer...impression=true
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Posted 13 January 2021 - 03:14 PM

View Postamphibian, on 13 January 2021 - 03:02 PM, said:

Representative Mikie Sherrill says she saw certain other representatives taking people on guided tours the day before and believes that was preparation for the riot.

She did not name the ones she saw.

https://amp.northjer...impression=true


This was 100% reconnaissance, and ties into the video from the tweet I posted above.

Every seditious bastard who helped this from the inside ought to be up on charges.
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Posted 13 January 2021 - 03:31 PM

At least one of them is Lauren Boebert:

https://twitter.com/...5973072902?s=19

She posted proudly a picture of her giving a tour to people on January 5 - three of the people in the picture have been charged as part of the riots.

She also tweeted Pelosi's location during the riot and has made a big stink about continuing to carry a gun into the Capitol.

If the House doesn't toss her for this, what are they even doing?
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Posted 13 January 2021 - 03:36 PM

View Postamphibian, on 13 January 2021 - 03:31 PM, said:

At least one of them is Lauren Boebert:

https://twitter.com/...5973072902?s=19

She posted proudly a picture of her giving a tour to people on January 5 - three of the people in the picture have been charged as part of the riots.

She also tweeted Pelosi's location during the riot and has made a big stink about continuing to carry a gun into the Capitol.

If the House doesn't toss her for this, what are they even doing?


'Multiple Republican members of Congress refused to walk through metal detectors installed Tuesday as a security measure[...] Boebert (R-CO) is said to have told Capitol Police she would not allow them to search her bag after it set off the scanners, and she later tweeted that the magnetometers were "another political stunt by Speaker Pelosi." The Colorado Republican has spoken openly about bringing a gun, a glock specifically, to the floor of the House.'

https://www.thedaily...lled-after-riot

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 04:04 PM

View Postamphibian, on 13 January 2021 - 03:31 PM, said:

At least one of them is Lauren Boebert:

https://twitter.com/...5973072902?s=19

She posted proudly a picture of her giving a tour to people on January 5 - three of the people in the picture have been charged as part of the riots.

She also tweeted Pelosi's location during the riot and has made a big stink about continuing to carry a gun into the Capitol.

If the House doesn't toss her for this, what are they even doing?

That tweet has been deleted. Maybe it was wrong?

Here's another one.



Alt:

https://www.pix11.co...m-jeffries-says

The President (2012) said:

Please proceed, Governor.

Chris Christie (2016) said:

There it is.

Elizabeth Warren (2020) said:

And no, Iím not talking about Donald Trump. Iím talking about Mayor Bloomberg.
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Posted 13 January 2021 - 04:58 PM

That's what jumped out to me when I saw the initial footage of the siege. It was more than just unprepared, insufficient police presence. It was apparent it was planned and there were inside players who helped coordinate it. More and more is going to come out about this and hopefully a lot of mother fuckers burn.

About Lauren Boebert. She is a product of the trend that Trump implemented where if you are a Republican who doesn't swear fealty to him, he will come into your state/district and primary you out for the QAnon nutjob. And she is right up there with the nuttiest of them. She owns a theme bar that is basically Hooters girls with guns. And she was pushing back hard, early on, when Colorado was in shelter at home orders at the beginning of the pandemic, and opened her bar in defiance. Personal distaste aside from me - she leans hard in curating the Sarah Palin look. Mama bear and lipstick on a snow machine full display.

Another reprehensible thing, some members of congress have contracted covid who were in lock down with Republicans who refused masks. Footage shows the QAnon asshole from Georgia (new member of congress) with a shitty smirk on her face when offered a mask.
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Posted 13 January 2021 - 05:34 PM

It's some kind of weird to be easily able to piece together at least one Representative who did the above mentioned thing.

I had this vision of this kind of thing happening secretly, but maybe these people think they're crossing the Rubicon and can do this stuff out in the open with little to no consequences. So far, they're not really wrong.
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Posted 13 January 2021 - 05:39 PM

I hear that the FBI has something like 139 cases open right now, and apparently the DC U.S. Attorney says he's using *public corruption* prosecutors—among others—to pursue "seditious conspiracy" charges being laid.

This seems to suggest public officials are being criminally investigated. Perhaps ones mentioned previously from AZ ect.

so not nothing, just slow moving? Although my faith is low...

And McConnell seems on board with turfing Trump now through impeachment? Which is totally self serving, he doesn't want Trump affecting 2024, so it's not like that's happening for the right reasons, but still.

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 05:47 PM

Can someone explain Jim Jordan to me and why he is?

Kitty Hawk > Chuck Yeager > Man on the Moon.


Lets come together and keep making America great or the cancel culture will cancel us all.

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 05:54 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 13 January 2021 - 05:39 PM, said:

I hear that the FBI has something like 139 cases open right now

It's closer to 200 now.

View PostQuickTidal, on 13 January 2021 - 05:39 PM, said:

so not nothing, just slow moving?

It's not really all that slow moving, considering they're having to track people down using amateur video. They explained that it's going to expand "geometrically" from the arrests they've already made. And they might be holding off on certain arrests to prevent Trump from pardoning them before he is tossed out on his ass. Preferably in handcuffs. I hope Letitia James is ready, because I doubt the feds are. But I could be wrong.

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 06:00 PM

View PostMalankazooie, on 13 January 2021 - 05:47 PM, said:

Can someone explain Jim Jordan to me and why he is?

Kitty Hawk > Chuck Yeager > Man on the Moon.


Lets come together and keep making America great or the cancel culture will cancel us all.


He has a district that is gerrymandered (so much that it looks like an actual duck) in order to carve out a Republican stronghold.

He was the coach of the Ohio State college wrestling team during a time that is now known to have had a doctor sexually abuse the boys/young men on the team. The people abused say Jordan knew and did nothing to stop it at any point.

He's managed to connect well with the alt right wing of the GOP and despite being a raging jerk who probably covered up horrific abuse, keeps getting elected because he looks like a fighter to a good chunk of his base audience.

He's against cancel culture because he did some bad stuff long ago and sporadically does bad stuff now.

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 06:28 PM

View Postamphibian, on 13 January 2021 - 06:00 PM, said:

View PostMalankazooie, on 13 January 2021 - 05:47 PM, said:

Can someone explain Jim Jordan to me and why he is?

Kitty Hawk > Chuck Yeager > Man on the Moon.


Lets come together and keep making America great or the cancel culture will cancel us all.


He has a district that is gerrymandered (so much that it looks like an actual duck) in order to carve out a Republican stronghold.

He was the coach of the Ohio State college wrestling team during a time that is now known to have had a doctor sexually abuse the boys/young men on the team. The people abused say Jordan knew and did nothing to stop it at any point.

He's managed to connect well with the alt right wing of the GOP and despite being a raging jerk who probably covered up horrific abuse, keeps getting elected because he looks like a fighter to a good chunk of his base audience.

He's against cancel culture because he did some bad stuff long ago and sporadically does bad stuff now.


Just to tag onto this, he is the SMUGEST motherfucker in Congress. Every single time I've seen him open his mouth, he acts like only HE knows "the truth" and he's going to catch YOU out in some tangled lie for a gotcha moment with his reading glasses perched at the end of his smug nose. He's confident as fuck in how wrong he is...it's the most infuriating thing to watch him hold up and parrot lies. The only person who gets even close to him for being an insufferable prick about how wrong he is so often would be Matt Gaetz.
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Posted 13 January 2021 - 06:53 PM

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'Hundreds of National Guard troops nap inside the U.S. Capitol Visitor Center as the House debates on an article of impeachment against President Trump.⁠'

https://twitter.com/...380418680877056

Better be light sleepers....

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 06:56 PM

Man that comment section. I wish there was a punch people over the internet function.
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Posted 13 January 2021 - 07:17 PM

'A retired U.S. Navy SEAL is facing questions from the FBI after boasting in a Facebook video about "breaching the Capitol" [...]

[...] reserve SEAL special warfare operator, in a car on his return home from Washington, telling his Facebook followers that he was "proud" of the assault on the U.S. Capitol building[...]

Clad in the attire of his Ohio-based firearms training business, ATG Worldwide, also known as Advanced Training Group Worldwide, the former elite U.S. Navy frogman recounts the damage rioters inflicted, implying that he both witnessed the events and participated in them himself.

"There are stories to tell from generations upon generations, um, that hopefully, uh ... that hopefully it pans out to be a positive revolution," he boasts. "HOOYAH!"

[...] Newbold, who served 24 years in the U.S. Navy and has said online that he trains civilians and police in tactical shooting, said he wanted to make lawmakers "think twice about what they're doing" and to be left "shaking in their shoes."'

https://abcnews.go.c...PqRDpqmAgaEfTbs

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 09:42 PM

'Olympic Gold Medalist Who Wore Team Jacket to Capitol Riot Is Arrested

Federal authorities have tracked down and arrested another handful of accused Capitol rioters, including an Olympic gold medalist, a former Peace Corps member, a Texas florist and a man who wore a sweatshirt with the phrase "Camp Auschwitz" on it as he stormed the Capitol.

Klete Keller, a two-time Olympic gold medal swimmer, was charged on Wednesday with knowingly entering or remaining in a restricted building, disorderly conduct in the Capitol building, and impeding law enforcement.

[...] A video [...] showed the bearded 38-year-old standing in the middle of a group of rioters pushing back against cops who were trying to usher them out [...] Keller can be seen in his U.S. Olympic team jacket—which had "USA" printed on the back and an Olympic patch on the front.

[...] was identified after the riot by media outlets like SwimSwam.'

https://www.thedaily...l-riot?ref=home

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 09:48 PM

Impeached again! Have it.

I know theoretically it doesn't mean that much but it's another blow to the ego. And I know they're just trying to save their own skins at the last minute but good to see at least some Republicans not goose stepping in line like the rest.
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