I'm back!
I agree that the avatar thing has made for a strange early game that is not as helpful as normal (not that it usually is that much, but still...)
Two posts I didn't really like, both from Osseric:
Osseric, on 27 October 2011 - 09:56 PM, said:
It feels like 'unusual play' is being used as a shorthand for 'scummy' in some people's minds. Personally I don't see why the two of them need to be equivalent. Settling into a standard pattern of play is a bad thing IMO, and every now and then I like to try and shake things up by trying something different.
I don't like the way that Galain has stopped his case of me before I started giving out some explanations. It feels like he's trying to build a case at least partially based on omission. I did in my ensuing posts explain myself somewhat, but he seems to be ignoring those posts on purpose. But having said that, I appreciate that he is at least trying to make a case. Got to start somewhere, and all that.
Slightly condescending, and with a bit of sucking up to everyone, including Galain. I have to go back and check the reason for Galain's vote, but I seriously doubt that there is enough on thread for a very serious case, and doubt even more that Galain could make a serious evaluation of Osseric's response. I think Osseric is a bit too tense about this vote.
Osseric, on 27 October 2011 - 10:24 PM, said:
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Mockra, on 27 October 2011 - 06:51 PM, said:
Osseric, on 27 October 2011 - 06:46 PM, said:
Mockra, on 27 October 2011 - 06:42 PM, said:
So do you think PS will put clues in the OP that might help us find scum as this is a CF less game?
Doubt it - the OP is just there to set the scene. The past few games might have had PS dropping clues in the scenes, but this is low TMDI, unlikely we'll get any of that here. Besides, we shouldn't need help.
So is it helpful to speculate on what type of roles that Morgoth included in this game or not? I'm new to CF less so I'm trying to feel my way around how we should approach this? When Morgoth last ran a game, if I remember correctly, and he mentioned using some roles that wouldn't be too conventional he had a symp with a guard ability so when you throws a similar comment out there it makes me very nervous as to what to expect.
Roled symp sounds plausible. Maybe Martyr? Haven't seen that in a while. I dunno, probably not worth worrying about at this point - we have next to no information on role balance (hell, we don't even know for sure that there are finders!)
I don't like to talk about roles, and Osseric did two things with these ideas that he is pushing:
"There are possibly no finders in this game" - Well, it's true that nothing is sure, but in a non-CF game, I seriously doubt there are no finders. Of course, any finder reveal will have to be carefully dealt with, but the questions should be "is he the finder?", not "is there even finders in this game?". Planting this idea, because it is far-fetched, is not helpful
"The symp might be a martyr". There, again, adding unnecessary confusion. Why is this setting prone to have a Martyr, like he said in a later post? In a non-CF game, I fail to see that a Martyr mechanic will add anything. Again, this idea is far-fetched, and can be used later to confuse the little information we might gain from the results of the night actions and the potential reveals, which in a non-CF game is an important source of info for the innos.