[Emurlahn]

With that reasoning, I think Karat is getting the most pressure right now.

vote Karatallid

[Karatallid]

Emurlahn, on 18 August 2011 - 09:28 AM, said:

With that reasoning, I think Karat is getting the most pressure right now.

vote Karatallid

So....i have 2 symps?

[Emurlahn]

Karatallid, on 18 August 2011 - 09:29 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 18 August 2011 - 09:28 AM, said:

With that reasoning, I think Karat is getting the most pressure right now.

vote Karatallid

So....i have 2 symps?

That would seem reasonable.

[Karatallid]

ok...so let me get this straight.


Not only do I have TS as a symp who voted for me in an attempt to give me some sort of apparent symp clue!..right?
But now Osseric is my other symp (or my actualy one!...how conventiant) revealing a role in order to divert attention away from my previous "symps" fuck up!

I mean TS was OBVIOUSLY trying to tell me he is my symp. These things are now standard!!...right?
I mean no one has ever voted for someone who does that without it being a symp ...come now we all know this!!
Using some lame ass excuse of the fact that i checked in and never returned....haha how STOOPID

And Osseric?!...hahaha...how much more obvious can this joker get amirite?

/rant



i cannot win.
Both of these "scenarios" are things that are completely out of left field and are such a shot in the bloody dark its laughable but i can see where this is leading...

Lets get this farce over with...or shall we wait and see what the next "theory" you guys are going to shoe horn me into?
fucking LOVELY this is.

[Karatallid]

Emurlahn, on 18 August 2011 - 09:38 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 18 August 2011 - 09:29 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 18 August 2011 - 09:28 AM, said:

With that reasoning, I think Karat is getting the most pressure right now.

vote Karatallid

So....i have 2 symps?

That would seem reasonable.

ah, fuck me

[Osseric]

Barghast, on 18 August 2011 - 08:54 AM, said:

So, Osseric, you drop a bombshell, people react and question you, effectively asking for an explanation of your motives (and whatever you do, don't do anything that might give other roles away!!), and you go around ignoring them and commenting on some earlier oddity? This does not sit too well with me.

Sorry there was no activity so I had time to go back and read through the thread, maybe my head was stuck in the faction game and I haven't played an MP game for aaages. My tactics may be a bit out and I understand you may be skeptical, I hadn't read all the exchanges between Kalse and co and for some reason I had the time down to the last few hours. Also with 4 votes? on me I was thinking that people may just jump onto the train to get a lynch. I do think i'm more important than a lot of the RI's. What questions do you have for me then?

[Emurlahn]

I'm not convinced that TS is your symp and I agree that it could be just a random vote by him.
I voted for you based on Osserics behaviour.

If you think my reasoning is stupid then tell my why and show me something better.


Edit: This is directed at Kara

This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 18 August 2011 - 09:50 AM

[Osseric]

yeah okay i'm a symp you got me, i'm symping Galain, Kara and TS because nothing I say can actually be what I am saying. Rather than think I'm symping, have a look at it from another angle and think, "okay what if he is telling the truth", what if he is actually Town. Take me out of the equation and then see if you think Kara/Galain or TS is scummy scum and if they are then i'd vote along, out of everyone Galain has pinged my radar the most for his day one antics. Who said lurking is hard to prove? More than one person noticed him being Nekkid at the bottom of the page on more than one occasion but not adding anything to the fore. He was mentioned time and again but has said nothing. Other than vote for me, so yeah he is acting scummy.

[Barghast]

I would REALLY appreciate a vote and time count.

I don't really get the hard-on for Karatallid, myself.
Yes, I understand that he's being accused of being symped and IF the pattern is correctly spotted then he MAY be scum - or just an unlucky inno on the receiving end of a play that can be used by scum but, let's face it, has been an inno past-time for the entire history of the game to lighten up day 1.

If you analyse play, the ones who do all the weird stuff are the people we accuse of symping Karatallid, not Kara himself. Either he's been set-up, caught in a series of unfortunate events or he has the worst symps in the history of the game. Personally, the first is scum overextending themselves, the second is likely and the third.... well, it is possible.

So far, I find I mostly agree with what I read of Kalse, and I can understand his reasoning for his Kara vote a tad bit better than Emurlahn, at the least, but... Ask yourself guys, what are we going to do if we do lynch Kara and if he turns up inno (yeah, two ifs, but the same applies to the accusation against him)?

Lynch the people who then "obviously" fake-symped him into a noose, or let them walk, see if we can spot more symp clues from them, or consider them confused innos, which they perhaps or even probably are, and have that nagging doubt at the back of our necks for the rest of the game, especially when it concerns Osseric's staggeringly contra-productive play so far?

[Barghast]

Osseric, on 18 August 2011 - 09:48 AM, said:

Barghast, on 18 August 2011 - 08:54 AM, said:

So, Osseric, you drop a bombshell, people react and question you, effectively asking for an explanation of your motives (and whatever you do, don't do anything that might give other roles away!!), and you go around ignoring them and commenting on some earlier oddity? This does not sit too well with me.

Sorry there was no activity so I had time to go back and read through the thread, maybe my head was stuck in the faction game and I haven't played an MP game for aaages. My tactics may be a bit out and I understand you may be skeptical, I hadn't read all the exchanges between Kalse and co and for some reason I had the time down to the last few hours. Also with 4 votes? on me I was thinking that people may just jump onto the train to get a lynch. I do think i'm more important than a lot of the RI's. What questions do you have for me then?

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

you're the bunny in this picture.
[attachment=17465:SUICIDE BUNNY.jpg]


Really man... really.

[Karatallid]

Emurlahn, on 18 August 2011 - 09:49 AM, said:

If you think my reasoning is stupid then tell my why and show me something better.

Why?...because osseric is clearly a fucking moron thats why...

So now i must go find a better alternate for YOU because some idiot revealed when he thought he was under pressure or something stupid?
Because apparently i was under such "huge pressure" at like L-6?...panic stations right?
...fuck off!...keep your vote on me. See if i care.

I mean don't you understand?....i cant defend anything here! Or maybe you DO get it.
I don't actually fit directly into this equation its all...its all based based on 3rd party nonsense that you guys are fabricating.

Much like kalse and Driss reasoning about TS on me...i cant say or do anything about it.
Im in this position on a bloody whim. On some fantastical idea that was thought up and shoe horned into a scenario that fits an origionally flawed theory!...but hey!...it fits!...lynch him!!

Now ontop of this you want me to point out some other stupid cases for you!
You want me to add to the cest pool of shitty game play here?
Ok fine!
I could go back and point out that the first osseric "signal" to galain has seemed to have been forgotten. how is it any less valid than mine all of the sudden.
Or the fact that Kalse seems so fucking hung up on such a huge "SYMP SIGNALLING" thing, im beginning to think his whole game play is a giant symp signal.
Look at his posts...first it he was all over osseric symping thing...and then TS vote on me...thats ALL he has been talking about all fucking game. signalling! One trick pony that one!
Find one post that is not about symp signalling...just try... there must be one im sure....but it would not be easy to find.
Symp signaling?... jeez.... such a ridiculously obtuse and WIFOM way of trying to find scum its unbelievable people are eating this shit up!!

okay...its day one...people tend to be gluttons for a big steaming plate of horse shit.
So i get it....but fuck its frustrating!!

But i would rather have not add to this cest pool of crap cases.
These are simply theories that have been farted into the atmosphere there is no possible counter argument to these hypothesis.
Its simply that....a theory.
They could easily be manufactured by scum and inno alike.

Im sure there are tons of things more i can find that can be made to look like symp clues.
If you look hard enough in this game you can come up with just about anything.
God its like you people really think symps are that transparent!... for shame!!

And I have to sit here and take this shit.
And i cant rely on those two to stick up for me. makes it even worse.
You guys have gone and put me in a lose lose position based on SHIT....hope it makes you happy


this is frustrating as fuck

[Karatallid]

whats the bet osseric is uncle ben (silencer role)

[Anthras]

I'm not sold on Kara's case either, just yet - but...

Osseric's erratic behavior has led us to this. Reveal claims, further intel knowledge, and excuses that do not actually sum up to anything. The whole 'reveal now because I might not be able to do it later' was questionable, to say the very least. Plus I'm not entirely sure as to why will he with-hold information and take it to the grave.
Could it be because he doesn't want the town team to get confused? But he already did muddy the waters with what he has already said.

First it's 'I'm a rolled townie' , next is 'lynching me will not be disastrous'. What the hell is it? Lynching town is always a bad thing unless the lynch itself will lead us to great benefits (like PIing a couple people, clearing up a misunderstanding, and thinning the pool).

Yet even so, dodgy and questionable play , EVEN if it proves to come from a townie, has never stopped people from lynching.
Eventually we will probably have to lynch Osseric (sorry if you're town bro, but you literally dug your own grave here), simply to clear up things, prevent him from causing further more ruckus, and also not to have to go back to all the incidents and the trouble he caused.

And before anyone tries to get all smartass, no, I am not setting up lynches or anything (unlike Telas who tried to link me with TS and Osseric for some weird reason of his own) - I'm just saying that between Kara and Osseric right now, I'm willing to go with either -

And second that vote and time count, pretty please with cherries on top.

[Path-Shaper]

There's 11 hours and 5 minutes left of the day.


Players still alive: Barghast, Sorrit, Osseric, Anthras, Kalse, Karatallid, Silanah, Korlat, Thyrllan, Telas, Shadow, Galain, Fener, Emurlahn, D'riss, Tulas Shorn.

9 votes to lynch.
8 votes to go to night.

1 vote for Galain ( Thyrllan)
4 votes for Osseric (Shadow, Galain, Korlat, Telas)
1 vote for Fener (Sorrit)
3 votes for Karatallid ( D'riss, Kalse, Emurlahn)
1 vote for D'riss (Fener)

Players that have yet to vote: Barghast, Anthras, Karatallid, Silanah, Thyrllan, Telas, Osseric

[Path-Shaper]

Barghast, on 18 August 2011 - 10:03 AM, said:

I would REALLY appreciate a vote and time count.

Now now, don't get all impatient on me. The last vote count was three hours ago and in between there's been one change of vote.

[Osseric]

Anthras, on 18 August 2011 - 10:28 AM, said:

I'm not sold on Kara's case either, just yet - but...

Osseric's erratic behavior has led us to this. Reveal claims, further intel knowledge, and excuses that do not actually sum up to anything. The whole 'reveal now because I might not be able to do it later' was questionable, to say the very least. Plus I'm not entirely sure as to why will he with-hold information and take it to the grave.
Could it be because he doesn't want the town team to get confused? But he already did muddy the waters with what he has already said.

First it's 'I'm a rolled townie' , next is 'lynching me will not be disastrous'. What the hell is it? Lynching town is always a bad thing unless the lynch itself will lead us to great benefits (like PIing a couple people, clearing up a misunderstanding, and thinning the pool).

Yet even so, dodgy and questionable play , EVEN if it proves to come from a townie, has never stopped people from lynching.
Eventually we will probably have to lynch Osseric (sorry if you're town bro, but you literally dug your own grave here), simply to clear up things, prevent him from causing further more ruckus, and also not to have to go back to all the incidents and the trouble he caused.

And before anyone tries to get all smartass, no, I am not setting up lynches or anything (unlike Telas who tried to link me with TS and Osseric for some weird reason of his own) - I'm just saying that between Kara and Osseric right now, I'm willing to go with either -

And second that vote and time count, pretty please with cherries on top.

Erratic? I haven't been all over the place at all, just cause I decided to reveal does not mean I have fucked up the thread. Or the game, who put you on a pedestal to decide anything? So you think I was lying? If so then you think it is because i'm a symp? So therefore you'd go for who you think i'm symping? If not, and you think I may have been telling the truth then why would you suggest lynching me? I don't see many town players wanting to lynch another town player. I don't see what you get here. I'd vote for you just for thinking that way.

Muddy the waters? Fener with his pictures and no words in a standard M and P game. And everyone firing accusations everywhere but with nothing sticking, how can the waters get muddied further?

I wasn't and I am still not set on a Kara lynch, and I am not going to self vote.

[Thyrllan]

GO THYRLLAN!!!!!!!


Thyrllan notes that Osseric's reveal is going to cram up all other roled innos into wondering whether they should protect him/investigate him etc.

Thyrllan further notes that Osseric initial mistake appears to come from confusing Galain - the detested Warren of Darkness - and the Galayn Lord demon who is an entirely different thing. Fool.

Thyrllan likes not the case on Karatallid. Thyrllan believes that people have latched on to something and refuse to let go, and have convinced themselves that anything and everything is a sign of Karatallid's scumminess. It could be, but Thyrllan thinks not. Thinks it weak.

Thyrllan too can demonstrate immovable stubborness, however, for Thyrllan will not be dussuaded from their initial feeling of Galain's evil scumminess.

[Osseric]

Vote Galain

[Thyrllan]

Ugh, Thyrllan notes that he would rather not be linked to dodgy Osseric in any way.

[Osseric]