[Tattersail_]

Roldom, on 15 July 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

who ever the other finder is, if you could put a find on tat, and then when u reveal 2mo, tat can check u out, and then we know whats what

you see i would prefer the other finder to remain hidden. i was hoping so much that he would reveal first so i wouldn't have to.

[Khellendros]

Roldom, on 15 July 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

who ever the other finder is, if you could put a find on tat, and then when u reveal 2mo, tat can check u out, and then we know whats what

Seriously, what do you guys think a find on Tat will reveal?! Unless he's MH, it won't tell the finder anything else, which could still mean he's a symp. I'm not saying I think Tat is a symp, I think the reveal is genuine, I'm just bemused that you guys think a find on Tat will reveal something it won't. The finder shouldn't waste a night investigating Tat, he should look elsewhere.

Look at it this way, even if Tat turns out to be MH, he's not going anywhere. He's not going to kill or recruit anyone in the meantime. There's no urgency to investigating him.

[Gust Hubb]

Tattersail, on 15 July 2011 - 05:22 PM, said:

Roldom, on 15 July 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

who ever the other finder is, if you could put a find on tat, and then when u reveal 2mo, tat can check u out, and then we know whats what

you see i would prefer the other finder to remain hidden. i was hoping so much that he would reveal first so i wouldn't have to.

So that you can test the wasted symp selection? I don't know that that would really happen. I mean if MH keeps resurrecting, there has to be a successor. It's not like we win too if we prevent him from body jumping....

[twelve]

Roldom, on 15 July 2011 - 05:10 PM, said:

im half tempted to add tat to that list twelve....

I dont remember much about ansible....

to be fair you have 7 people there out of 12, so chances our theres bout to be at least on of the MH in there lol

I agree with you on tat. He is now teetering on my list. I initally took his we need a lynch to be still stuck in standard mafia mode but his incistance to push a lynch on me is looking more and more scumy.

Grief, HiddenOne and Kurt I haven't been able to get a good read on so they are on my list. Mental sees to be going with the flow and not offering much so I think he is either a finder laying low or more likely MH laying low. Vengy, Ansible and Khell have said things that they took for fact that I disagreed with so it could be just difference of opinions or someone deliberately putting out false info.

My main point of focus would be Ment but if even 1 finder could come out an narrow the field down then they should.

[Khellendros]

Roldom, on 15 July 2011 - 05:20 PM, said:

why would anyone who isnt MH pretend to be a FK?

im not gonna vote for twelve, and ive got to shoot, catch u laters

Because they're a symp out to confuse us, just maybe?

[Khellendros]

Gust Hubb, on 15 July 2011 - 05:21 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 15 July 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

Gust Hubb, on 15 July 2011 - 05:16 PM, said:

Excellent Tat. Thank you. Can the other finder confirm this about Tat (say do a find on him and if he lives or is not a finder, then reveal)?

Gust, seriously, the only info the finders get is whether someone is MH or not. That is it. It won't tell him whether the person they've investigated is a finder or not. If they come out not MH, it doesn't mean they're not a symp.

How do you know this Kells?

It seems pretty explicit in the OP.

[Tattersail_]

@kell, if you thought me to be a symp then the best action would be to try and find the MH and then once he has gone investigate me. That way you'd know if I was a symp because i'd die by taking MH's place

[Gust Hubb]

Khells, you're waffling. You don't want to waste a find on Tat, but if he is MH, he's just going to have fun fucking around with us.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail, on 15 July 2011 - 05:26 PM, said:

@kell, if you thought me to be a symp then the best action would be to try and find the MH and then once he has gone investigate me. That way you'd know if I was a symp because i'd die by taking MH's place

Exactly. That's why I said there's no point to investigating you right now.

[Gust Hubb]

but if MH is Tat, then we are just wasting energies and lynching innocents

[twelve]

Gust Hubb, on 15 July 2011 - 05:16 PM, said:

Excellent Tat. Thank you. Can the other finder confirm this about Tat (say do a find on him and if he lives or is not a finder, then reveal)?

Excelent suggestion

[Khellendros]

Gust Hubb, on 15 July 2011 - 05:27 PM, said:

Khells, you're waffling. You don't want to waste a find on Tat, but if he is MH, he's just going to have fun fucking around with us.

No, think about it. Would MH really put himself in this position right now? What benefit does it give him? We were already confused enough as it is, focussed as we were on whether or not to lynch twelve - all MH needed to do right now is keep low.

You've been crying out for a finder to reveal louder than anyone else and as soon as one does, the first thing you do is suspect them?

[Gust Hubb]

Where's P-S btw?

[twelve]

Khellendros, on 15 July 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

Gust Hubb, on 15 July 2011 - 05:16 PM, said:

Excellent Tat. Thank you. Can the other finder confirm this about Tat (say do a find on him and if he lives or is not a finder, then reveal)?

Gust, seriously, the only info the finders get is whether someone is MH or not. That is it. It won't tell him whether the person they've investigated is a finder or not. If they come out not MH, it doesn't mean they're not a symp.

It's post like this that make me suspect you. Gust gave a completely valid suggestion and you shoot him down for it. All Gust is asking is for the other finder to do a find on Tat. If tat dies we know he was lying if not then we know he was telling the truth. The only problem is with it being so close to day being over will the other finder even know to check on Tat tonight or not.

[Gust Hubb]

Jeeze Kells, you just don't get it or don't read the posts that well. once we have a finder, we CHECK THEM OUT to make sure we aren't getting fucked. Then, with the trust established, that finder can help us more carefully locate MH for a day lynch.

[Khellendros]

twelve, on 15 July 2011 - 05:31 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 15 July 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

Gust Hubb, on 15 July 2011 - 05:16 PM, said:

Excellent Tat. Thank you. Can the other finder confirm this about Tat (say do a find on him and if he lives or is not a finder, then reveal)?

Gust, seriously, the only info the finders get is whether someone is MH or not. That is it. It won't tell him whether the person they've investigated is a finder or not. If they come out not MH, it doesn't mean they're not a symp.

It's post like this that make me suspect you. Gust gave a completely valid suggestion and you shoot him down for it. All Gust is asking is for the other finder to do a find on Tat. If tat dies we know he was lying if not then we know he was telling the truth. The only problem is with it being so close to day being over will the other finder even know to check on Tat tonight or not.

Argh, am I talking to a wall?! A find which does not kill Tat does not automatically find him innocent, because a symp would also not come out as MH.

[Gust Hubb]

@Kells - Again, how do you know that. The OP does not explicitly say how the finder's finds will look.

[Gust Hubb]

I feel like I'm yelling in a canyon, and all I'm hearing echo is BS, BS, BS bs bs

[twelve]

Khellendros, on 15 July 2011 - 05:24 PM, said:

Roldom, on 15 July 2011 - 05:19 PM, said:

who ever the other finder is, if you could put a find on tat, and then when u reveal 2mo, tat can check u out, and then we know whats what

Seriously, what do you guys think a find on Tat will reveal?! Unless he's MH, it won't tell the finder anything else, which could still mean he's a symp. I'm not saying I think Tat is a symp, I think the reveal is genuine, I'm just bemused that you guys think a find on Tat will reveal something it won't. The finder shouldn't waste a night investigating Tat, he should look elsewhere.

Look at it this way, even if Tat turns out to be MH, he's not going anywhere. He's not going to kill or recruit anyone in the meantime. There's no urgency to investigating him.

He needs to be investigated. Period. If only to take WIFOM off the table.

[Khellendros]

Gust Hubb, on 15 July 2011 - 05:35 PM, said:

@Kells - Again, how do you know that. The OP does not explicitly say how the finder's finds will look.

So to you it seems likely that a find might come back with the info: 'Tattersail is not MH. He is, however, a symp."? Really? Do you think that?

Guys, the finders are finder-killers who can only kill one particular target. They have one objective, one focus, and therefore only get info on whether they've found that particular target or not. It's a simple yes/no. Why would it be anything else?