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MAFIA 75.5 - The Nanman Rebellion A Tale of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms

#401 User is offline   Khellendros 

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:09 PM

View PostTattersail, on 15 July 2011 - 05:01 PM, said:

i think by them remaining anonymous then the MH could try and jump into them and try to recruit them without knowing they cannot be recruited which also protects other people from being recruited sooner.



This is another game mechanic which I'm somewhat confused by. What happens if MH wants someone who turns out to be a finder to be their successor? Does P-S tell them it's not possible - in which case they'll have identified a finder?
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:09 PM

yeah but whether they reveal now, or tomorrow it doesn't matter. The only person who can get lynched is Twelve. I woulddn't mind him being lynched and then a finder revealing their two finds tomorrow if no one is killed tonight. That way we have Twelve's CF, and whoever the finder reveals tomorrow or is killed at night.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:10 PM

im half tempted to add tat to that list twelve....

I dont remember much about ansible....

to be fair you have 7 people there out of 12, so chances our theres bout to be at least on of the MH in there lol
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:10 PM

I agree Roldom, but I don't want twelve hammered when Tat is starting to sound inconsistent defending a lynch today position.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:11 PM

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View PostTattersail, on 15 July 2011 - 05:01 PM, said:

i think by them remaining anonymous then the MH could try and jump into them and try to recruit them without knowing they cannot be recruited which also protects other people from being recruited sooner.



This is another game mechanic which I'm somewhat confused by. What happens if MH wants someone who turns out to be a finder to be their successor? Does P-S tell them it's not possible - in which case they'll have identified a finder?


I have just thought about this, and yes it makes sense in a way for the finder to reveal otherwise scum/MH will know but Town won't.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:11 PM

View PostTattersail, on 15 July 2011 - 05:07 PM, said:

Okay, I just went back to read it to check again, yes so at any one time scum will be two members.


I disagree there'll be two, but perhaps I'm just parsing the semantics of the OP differently. Still, two scum would make it too easy for town to get their six kills.

The concern about a Symp is the strongest reason for not letting Finders reveal ... but I don't think there's a huge chance of there actually being a Symp.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:14 PM

I am almost, almost absolutely certain that MH is one of ainsible, twelve, Khell, Venge, HO, Tattersail, Shinrei, Roldom, Grief, Gust, Kurt, or Ment :thumbsup:
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:14 PM

Fuck it. I have deliberated most of today over this. I have actually typed up three times to reveal. Well I will reveal, hoping that our other finder will stay hidden. Last night I did a find on Gust Hubb. He was not in the MH. Tonight I have a find on Mentalist. There you go. Believe me or not believe me.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:15 PM

Btw, I know Shin contributed early on, but why is he lurking now? And just making corny jokes like Kells just did?
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:15 PM

why dont u do a check on twelve? lol
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:16 PM

Excellent Tat. Thank you. Can the other finder confirm this about Tat (say do a find on him and if he lives or is not a finder, then reveal)?
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:17 PM

View PostKurt Montandon, on 15 July 2011 - 05:11 PM, said:

View PostTattersail, on 15 July 2011 - 05:07 PM, said:

Okay, I just went back to read it to check again, yes so at any one time scum will be two members.


I disagree there'll be two, but perhaps I'm just parsing the semantics of the OP differently. Still, two scum would make it too easy for town to get their six kills.

The concern about a Symp is the strongest reason for not letting Finders reveal ... but I don't think there's a huge chance of there actually being a Symp.


To me it seems most likely that there are two scum, one MH, the other symp, with another inno unknowingly picked as the new symp. It works like this: If MH is killed, symp becomes MH, inno becomes symp. If symp is killed, inno becomes symp and picks another inno to be the successor. If inno/successor is lynched, symp picks another one.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:17 PM

Roldom has a point Tat.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:18 PM

because i voted for Ment yesterday and he seemed off to me, and rather than pick someone i thought the other find might find i went with my gut. I could change it to twelve but i was hoping the lynch would sort that out. Think this way from my point of view, with Twelve gone, Ment and Gust cleared that would narrow the pool down quite a lot wouldn't it.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:18 PM

And I'm glad you spoke up. I was getting a little itchy to vote for you there. And I agree, I want to know more about ment.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:19 PM

View PostGust Hubb, on 15 July 2011 - 05:16 PM, said:

Excellent Tat. Thank you. Can the other finder confirm this about Tat (say do a find on him and if he lives or is not a finder, then reveal)?



Gust, seriously, the only info the finders get is whether someone is MH or not. That is it. It won't tell him whether the person they've investigated is a finder or not. If they come out not MH, it doesn't mean they're not a symp.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:19 PM

who ever the other finder is, if you could put a find on tat, and then when u reveal 2mo, tat can check u out, and then we know whats what
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:20 PM

True, but I feel like voting for twelve is shutting up a contributing (albeit very confused and confusing) member, and frankly I don't want to lynch him if we think he is townie (why shoot ourselves in the foot with you, myself, and either twelve or Ment cleared)?
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:20 PM

why would anyone who isnt MH pretend to be a FK?

im not gonna vote for twelve, and ive got to shoot, catch u laters
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:21 PM

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View PostGust Hubb, on 15 July 2011 - 05:16 PM, said:

Excellent Tat. Thank you. Can the other finder confirm this about Tat (say do a find on him and if he lives or is not a finder, then reveal)?



Gust, seriously, the only info the finders get is whether someone is MH or not. That is it. It won't tell him whether the person they've investigated is a finder or not. If they come out not MH, it doesn't mean they're not a symp.


How do you know this Kells?
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