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#61 Adjutant Stormy~

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 08:41 AM

Oh I agree, it's atrocious. Unless you like boring monologues.

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#62 Tapper

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 09:43 AM

Adjutant Stormy, on 20 June 2011 - 08:41 AM, said:

Oh I agree, it's atrocious. Unless you like boring monologues.

Only when I am the one doing the monologuing.

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#63 King Bear

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 12:43 PM

Kanubis, on 20 June 2011 - 08:04 AM, said:

At one job I (and every new employee) was given a copy of Ayn Rand's 'Atlas Shrugged' in my induction and told to read it. And believe in it.

Fuck that.

#64 Kanubis

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 01:13 PM

Future Warrior, on 20 June 2011 - 12:43 PM, said:

Kanubis, on 20 June 2011 - 08:04 AM, said:

At one job I (and every new employee) was given a copy of Ayn Rand's 'Atlas Shrugged' in my induction and told to read it. And believe in it.

Fuck that.

I'll be honest, I didn't read it. Luckily I don't work in that cess pit of extreme capitalist evil anymore.

...I work for the offshore wealth industry now instead.

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#65 King Bear

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 01:54 PM

Well, ya gotta work somewhere. But saying that you must read a book with a strong philosophical bent, and believe in it, is ridiculous, pretentious, and patronising.

#66 worry

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 07:41 PM

Unless it's MBOTF of course!

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#67 cainachaea

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 07:29 PM

Economic Left/Right: 4.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.26

Bush. Awesome.

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#68 RaRugged

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 06:28 AM

Future Warrior, on 19 June 2011 - 12:26 PM, said:

RaRugged, on 19 June 2011 - 06:40 AM, said:

Funny how those who believe in social freedom often believe in the state intruding into the market.

For many that do, the reasoning is that state intervention and social freedom don't have to be mutually exclusive, that the classic idea of a public/private split to protect freedom is flawed, antiquated, and too simplistic. The idea is that in these days of multinational companies, government regulated big business protects social freedom better than big business that is able to do what it likes. Do multinationals have a strong interest and accountability to the welfare of the general public, or are they mainly concerned with shareholders, executives, and turning huge profits for their own advantage, and quite happy to intrude on social freedoms to do so? It's not a perfect system by any means, but what is? Just sayin'

State intervention and freedom in general are ALWAYS mutually exclusive. Everything the government does, it takes away. It wants a minimum wage law? The low-skilled workers are fired. It wants affirmative action? Qualified students are rejected. It wants to put subsidize oil? Oil prices go up. Everything is a trade-off.

There is absolutely nothing a government can do without somehow violating someone else's right. Taxation is inherently stealing from an individual, but it is a trade-off most people are willing to make in exchange for a court system (tort law), a limited police (to protect oneself from another), and a strong national defense (to protect the country from attackers). But taxes are going out-of-control.

The federal government was NOT conceived by our Founding Fathers to be the expansionary, intrusive entity it is today. The government manages literally everything you can think of: education, health care, energy, etc. Some of you might say that's a good thing, because it protects us from "greedy" corporate interests. That's just ironic, because many liberals want the government to protect us from corporations, but isn't the government constantly lobbied and controlled by corporations? They want a bigger government to protect us from companies?

Let me say this once: all policies the government implements in the name of the "American people" is a reflection of a view held by VERY few. Lobbying is so powerful these days because the GOVERNMENT is so powerful. The solution is NOT to make the government protect itself from itself, but to decrease the size of the government.

Multinational corporations are a different matter though. Because they function in so many areas under so many systems, it's a very different scenario. But to say that they ONLY look out for shareholders and people have not benefited from their services is absurd. Come on, we like Google search engine. My point is thriving business and entrepreneurship is the key to economic success.

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#69 Adjutant Stormy~

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 07:35 AM

Hooray! We found new Nic!

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#70 Whiskey Bass

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 01:34 AM

Economic Left/Right: -7.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.08

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#71 Salt-Man Z

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 04:24 AM

As mentioned, the questions are terrible. Hard to get any more centrist than this:

Economic Left/Right: -0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.31

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#72 worry

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 04:27 AM

A centrist?! Burn him at the stake!

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#73 Salk Elan

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 10:32 AM

Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.46

Slightly more centrist than Gandhi. But that's roughly where I expected to get.

#74 Salt-Man Z

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 09:16 PM

worrywort, on 16 August 2011 - 04:27 AM, said:

A centrist?! Burn him at the stake!

The funny thing is, I've long considered myself a Republican/moderate conservative. This looks pretty left-leaning to me!

#75 Darkwatch

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 10:51 PM

Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41

Personally I'd say I'm more centrist than the test allows. Because I look like some kind of anarchist hippy with those results.

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#76 worry

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 11:00 PM

Well, you just can't equate the Republican Party with moderate conservatism anymore. They've gradually (and in the past decade or so, not-so-gradually) left those particular ideals to be picked over by moderate and conservative Dems, while they've gone off to distinctly crazier pastures. If I had ever been a moderate conservative, I would feel wholly and callously abandoned.

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#77 Salt-Man Z

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 01:13 AM

True, which is why I almost typed that I "used to identify" as one. Nowadays, I just say "conservative-ish".

#78 Cyphon

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 09:10 AM

Darkwatch, on 16 August 2011 - 10:51 PM, said:

Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41

Personally I'd say I'm more centrist than the test allows. Because I look like some kind of anarchist hippy with those results.

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#79 Tsundoku

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Posted 05 June 2018 - 09:54 AM

*thread necro*

I'm still more lefty than I thought. Apparently I'm Nicola Sturgeon(?)

Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.59

EDIT: apparently she's the Chief Jock (as in Scottish First Minister). I don't quite know how to feel about that.

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