[Path-Shaper]

Good game PB. However, the killers are pretyt good right now anyway. They got a finder and gaurd reveal, and the finder also confirmed he has a partner. Gamelon has been Cied by the real finders and tonight Ruse will be Cied. At least until they remember that the symps come up inno on finds. HD, you were technically screwed after the find, but great job in almost getting one finder lynched and also in keeping your partner and symp out of the limelight.

Well played both of you.

[Lisheo]

Hey, I'm here. I'm staying at a mates tonight, but I have a study week before my exams, so when I get home tomorrow, I should be free for a good few days to help mod! Who is it running this, btw?

[Path-Shaper]

Bent here

[Peanutbutta]

Path-Shaper, on Apr 27 2009, 06:31 AM, said:

Good game PB. However, the killers are pretyt good right now anyway. They got a finder and gaurd reveal, and the finder also confirmed he has a partner. Gamelon has been Cied by the real finders and tonight Ruse will be Cied. At least until they remember that the symps come up inno on finds. HD, you were technically screwed after the find, but great job in almost getting one finder lynched and also in keeping your partner and symp out of the limelight.

Well played both of you.

Yes, the fact that Gamelon probably has several days of looking clear will be big boon to the scum. I am not sure Ruse will be 'cleared' because Fener is going to get axed tonight and then no way that Telas reveals he's finder (so he may see Ruse as clear but have no way to prove it if he wants to stay alive).

Right now, innos are completely on wrong track with lynches, too. They are looking at Omtose/D'riss/Tellan/Meanas and all four of them are clear.

Still, I re-affirm that I made the right play. As you can see, I was dead anyway yesterday after barely dodging it by luck on Night 2, so I'm glad I went down with a bad guy. Killing Fener isn't going to hurt much because Telas doesn't have a target. Killing Ano will be the big problem because Omtose is already in hot water (they are paired).

Also, is it just me or is DiBs a total D-bag?

Anomandaris, on Apr 27 2009, 06:36 AM, said:

D'riss, on Apr 24 2009, 04:20 PM, said:

I love yous Mockra, me ole buddy, me ole pal...yoush the best mate a bloke can have *wipes tear away* did you shay you'd buy me a beer?

D'riss, on Apr 24 2009, 04:26 PM, said:

I really love yous, Mocks me ole buddy, me ole pal

two posts professing love for mockra, if i didnt think that kess was the worst symo in history, driss would get worst symp clue in history.

*snip*

He's totally wrong on every guess this game.

[Path-Shaper]

PB, I have several pm's (30) that I haven't posted in spoilers yet, because I can't copy paste for some reason on my work comp. As it stands, the killers have been discussing letting fener live and killing the other roled players first. they haven't changed their provisional yet, but they might.

As for Dibs, he is under the assumption that I gave the killers gaurds. ie. 2 killers 1 symp, paired evil gaurds. So taking that into consideration, he is playing just like he should. Only problem there is that there arent evil gaurds. So its messing up his game. Sure, he'll blame me, because of the scene about the bouncer (he's a bouncer, so assumes that because the killers were bouncers as well, they must be gaurds). I thought about telling them in thread, but if I can't do that, it would clear up some of the confusion they feel. Its already massively over-balanced in favor of team inno - a healer, 2 gaurds and 2 finders, with me CIing one finder (due to him quoting my pm). Against 4 scum, with only one kill per night. So no, let them be confused and to hell with the consequences. IMO.

[Peanutbutta]

Yeah, yeah... you are starting to sound like a symp for the killers.

I still say 'jerk!' to DiBs's diss!

This post has been edited by Peanutbutta: 27 April 2009 - 03:33 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Lets call it "flambouyant?"

[Path-Shaper]

Also, I always oot for team evil. Its my favorite thing to be.

[Path-Shaper]

Anddddd, Gem just went off the deep end. Sigh. So much for defending. Meh, I admire her (whatever it is that mean to go out kicking and screaming).

[Peanutbutta]

Path-Shaper, on Apr 27 2009, 09:35 AM, said:

Anddddd, Gem just went off the deep end. Sigh. So much for defending. Meh, I admire her (whatever it is that mean to go out kicking and screaming).

Why do these games always have someone that ends up just suiciding in frustration from the vote pressure?

It happened in Mexican Mafia (but the suicide was at least a 'day action' that had the potential to win the game). It happened in Vampires. Now here we go again. Yes, Gem has looked scummy, but why just throw it away except to maybe just get attention back to the regular game?

edit: P-S do you want me to help you mod a bit by posting the PMs to Spoiler Heaven? It's just logging into the P-S account and then reply-copy-pasting the answers, right? I assume you delete the 'answered' ones and if any can't be answered (rules question I don't know), I can leave them for you.

This post has been edited by Peanutbutta: 27 April 2009 - 04:39 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Yes , yes and yes!

[Peanutbutta]

Path-Shaper, on Apr 27 2009, 09:44 AM, said:

Yes , yes and yes!

Consider it done, but I won't be doing any 'time/count updates' to the main thread yet.

[Path-Shaper]

Please handle any lynch of Means/Gem on the main thread. I'm still updating from the PMs. -- PB

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 27 April 2009 - 05:14 PM

[Path-Shaper]

You have a quote number limitation, I try to limit them to 7 or 8 pms per post.

[Path-Shaper]

5 hours till I have to modkill Dk

[Path-Shaper]

I hereby nominate Peanutbutta gunslinger of HHM. 2 games under his belt and fake reveals finder to save the real finder.

[Path-Shaper]

-- THINGS THAT HAPPENED BEFORE NIGHT 3 (Bent couldn't post, so I'm helping him get up to speed on the thread)--

Telas confirming Fener's action for Night 3 (find on Kesso aka me, lulz)

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My initial thoughts on a re-read, nobody has responded to my case yet:


Shadow looks good. I don't see a partner or symp pointing out D'riss's symp clue to Mockra.

Emurlahn looks bad, and is a likely partner. I get the feeling that they've been defending each other. We need to consider Emurlahn as a possible partner.

Meanas and Tellan look bad for their initial reactions to my earlier case.

Serc looks good, argued a bit with Mockra after the initial case.

They should have killed me by now. Given my earlier case on Mockra, they must have known that I wasn't their symp. Maybe they're worried about the night kill pointing back to Mockra, but that can be explained away.

Tellan seems to be on your side at the moment. If anything Omtose is coming up suspicious due to recent posts. Emurlahn also removed his vote on you and moved to Mockra, but is dissembling at the same time. He looks like a symp hedging his bets. Omtose is the only one resisting, despite initially saying it makes sense.
Meanas hasn't shown up yet.

Kessobahn may be an unpaired finder...he hinted as much.

We need to change our find to Kessobahn. 3 finders is a lot and we can't affor the possibility that he's lying. Even though I do trust him, it's not worth the risk. And it's a very unlikely play for a symp, although promotable symps may be a bit different.

PS, could you please change our find to Kessobahn. Thanks. Telas, please confirm.

If I die and he comes up guilty, reveal immediately.

PS, Confirm Fener's change please.

Thanks for the thoughts Fener. This game is addictave.

Fener thought he had a different provisional in? Too bad for him.

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Hi PS,

I'm going to be really really cheeky here. As Telas was never around to confirm my find on Kesso, shouldn't I get a find on Meanas instead, as that's what was confirmed? Unless he confirmed it without copying me in.

If you say no, I won't complain. I did send in a find on Kesso. But does this mean we don't need confirmation from each other in the future?

Thanks. And I know i'm being a pain, sorry.

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Confirm Fener's Provisional

(just in case you didn't catch that in the cc'd message to Fener.)

Noted

Tell you what, its up to you, but I usually accept one half of the request. However, if you want me to not do that for you, I will give you a Meanas find, but from here on out, I will have to have both of you confirm your actions.....deal? Or you can keep the kess find (he's dead, so I didn't send a pm, lol) and from here on out, I'll accept one or the other, whichever comes in right before the lynch....your choice

I think in the spirit of the game we should go with Kesso. It was a very cheeky request. Even though i'm dead tonight (at a complete guess we lynched our healer, Liosan).

Thanks.

-- THINGS THAT HAPPENED DURING DAY 4 --

Shadow is self-indulging, but let's not forget that it was Kesso that pushed the train at the cost of his life, NOT Shadow!

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Just felt like gloating a little about how correct I was in my suspicion of Mockra (in an admittedly roundabout way). Go me!

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My initial thoughts on a re-read, nobody has responded to my case yet:


Shadow looks good. I don't see a partner or symp pointing out D'riss's symp clue to Mockra.

Emurlahn looks bad, and is a likely partner. I get the feeling that they've been defending each other. We need to consider Emurlahn as a possible partner.

Meanas and Tellan look bad for their initial reactions to my earlier case.

Serc looks good, argued a bit with Mockra after the initial case.

They should have killed me by now. Given my earlier case on Mockra, they must have known that I wasn't their symp. Maybe they're worried about the night kill pointing back to Mockra, but that can be explained away.

Tellan seems to be on your side at the moment. If anything Omtose is coming up suspicious due to recent posts. Emurlahn also removed his vote on you and moved to Mockra, but is dissembling at the same time. He looks like a symp hedging his bets. Omtose is the only one resisting, despite initially saying it makes sense.
Meanas hasn't shown up yet.

Kessobahn may be an unpaired finder...he hinted as much.

We need to change our find to Kessobahn. 3 finders is a lot and we can't affor the possibility that he's lying. Even though I do trust him, it's not worth the risk. And it's a very unlikely play for a symp, although promotable symps may be a bit different.

PS, could you please change our find to Kessobahn. Thanks. Telas, please confirm.

If I die and he comes up guilty, reveal immediately.

PS, Confirm Fener's change please.

Thanks for the thoughts Fener. This game is addictave.

I survived. Our find, Kesso, died. But you didn't confirm in time, so i'm being really cheeky and asking PS for Meanas's find instead.

Alright. No find, as Kesso died.

Just keep fairly quiet. Jump on whichever lynch is the biggest once we get going. You don't look good or bad at the moment, which is perfect.

[Path-Shaper]

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can i please have confirmation of what our night action was on night 2, i have it down as fener but i want to be sure that was what you have.

night 1 none,
night 2 fener
night 3 shadow

Night 3 I have you down for 'Tellan.'

Please disregard if you already got a response (I'm helping Bent clean up the PM box).

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My initial thoughts on a re-read, nobody has responded to my case yet:


Shadow looks good. I don't see a partner or symp pointing out D'riss's symp clue to Mockra.

Emurlahn looks bad, and is a likely partner. I get the feeling that they've been defending each other. We need to consider Emurlahn as a possible partner.

Meanas and Tellan look bad for their initial reactions to my earlier case.

Serc looks good, argued a bit with Mockra after the initial case.

They should have killed me by now. Given my earlier case on Mockra, they must have known that I wasn't their symp. Maybe they're worried about the night kill pointing back to Mockra, but that can be explained away.

Tellan seems to be on your side at the moment. If anything Omtose is coming up suspicious due to recent posts. Emurlahn also removed his vote on you and moved to Mockra, but is dissembling at the same time. He looks like a symp hedging his bets. Omtose is the only one resisting, despite initially saying it makes sense.
Meanas hasn't shown up yet.

Kessobahn may be an unpaired finder...he hinted as much.

We need to change our find to Kessobahn. 3 finders is a lot and we can't affor the possibility that he's lying. Even though I do trust him, it's not worth the risk. And it's a very unlikely play for a symp, although promotable symps may be a bit different.

PS, could you please change our find to Kessobahn. Thanks. Telas, please confirm.

If I die and he comes up guilty, reveal immediately.

PS, Confirm Fener's change please.

Thanks for the thoughts Fener. This game is addictave.

I survived. Our find, Kesso, died. But you didn't confirm in time, so i'm being really cheeky and asking PS for Meanas's find instead.

Well, via the rules that's how it should go down anyways right?

Sorry, I made the mistake of reading my messages before collaborating with the thread. But if my confirm was late, the original should go through, no?'

Congrats on still being alive btw

And Ruse was damn close to decipher.....

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So who's next on the list for tonight?

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So who's next on the list for tonight?

Emurlahn, Meanas or Omtose. Pick one.

Fener over-metas on the above 3 and goes for Ruse too early, giving him some breathing room!

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And Ruse was damn close to decipher.....

Maybe we should investigate Ruse tonight? If he's good at that sort of stuff and evil, it could be a problem.

But he's looking for my name in it.

Omtose bothers me, because he went on about how it makes sense to lynch mockra, but then neither votes and actually argues against his own good logic. I think Emurlahn though, because your instincts have been good so far and I get the impression he may be top of your list.

Thinking about it, Emurlahn, Omtose and Meanas are going to get lynched over the next few days. So I don't particularly want to use up a find on them.

I think Ruse is a better bet. Because if he has cracked the code, he knows you're a finder, and will kill us both over the next 2 nights. So we might only get 1 find.

If Ruse is Inno, you can definitely survive for longer.

And there's no reason to think that Ruse isn't evil, so it isn't a wasted find.

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PS, can you put a provisional on Ruse please. Ruse is unlikely to be lynched soon but as likely to be evil as anyone. Plus he displays worrying codebreaking skills.

Telas, please confirm.

I hate codes.

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PS, can you put a provisional on Ruse please. Ruse is unlikely to be lynched soon but as likely to be evil as anyone. Plus he displays worrying codebreaking skills.

Telas, please confirm.

I hate codes.

Confirm provisional on Ruse.

Cover our collective ass...

Tapper/Gamelon is promoted to full-time killer!

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Gamelon...You've been promoted. Meet Tennes. You are now partners. I still need that recipe....

You may communicate off thread at all times.

Oki. Glad neither Tennes nor me future on Fener's current 'likely to be scum' list... Currently waiting for my partner in crime to get back to me.

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I'm off the radar, I must be doing something right, sorry Mockra, not much to be done there.

[Path-Shaper]

Ano/DiBs settles on Meanas after some meta and a convo with Bent. He is completely wrong, too.

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fuck no, we guard tellan or driss or meanas.

i think lynch driss, block meanas.

I am going to put Meanas as your provisional.

do

hope your entertained. you can tell me if i have a provisional death sentence bent, i dont mind

I do...lol

provisional night action on meanas, if meanas lynched, go for driss

emur is another possibility.

think start set up was 2 killers, 2 guards and a symp. could be mockra didnt know the killers. but driss symped mockra something shocking.

Bent lays the smack-down on Fener... almost. Why is this rule so hard for people to follow? Maybe should make it the first thing you post after scene.

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But, if you'll go read the rules, and find where it says don't quote PS pm's, Copy that part, and pm it to me, I'll forgive you.

B7) Quote, in whole or part, PMs from (or other private conversations with) the mods on the thread, or discuss the timing of any PMs sent to the mods.

Sorry again. If you want to modkill me go ahead, I broke the rules.

Tapper feels a twinge of regret for mod-killing last game when Bent didn't this game...

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I know you don't want to mod-kill players, but by saying Fener quoted from one of your PMs, you confirmed he is a finder, which now makes him CI instead of a very shady member of society

And if he is Dibs, he really should have known a lot better... actually, scratch that, ANYONE should have known better since last game Ment had to mod-kill someone for the exact same reason (though dibs didn't play in that one). People these days consistently fail to read the rules.

Not nitpicking or criticising your decision, I think you did what I would have done as well (sure as hell wouldn't have pulled the trigger), but still, we seem to somehow get to a point where rules are no longer observed because people think they know what is going on rather than double check.

I agree with you 100 percent, and had it been a pro that had done it, I would have killed them. As it is, I am content with a warning, also, I assume you guys will kill Fener tonight anyway. Probably a bad move to have announced on thread what I said, but meh. Shit happens.

Kill him? You mean there are no healers targeting him? Awesome!

Just kidding. What a game this is, must be fun in SH right now

difficult, no one there but me. ST pops in once a day, no one else.

Ouch. Let me know which euro to kill to help you

You could reveal. lol

Venge would hate me and never co-mod my games anymore .

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Thought it time to submit one, can always change it after all.

Serve Fener with an apple in the mouth and with cranberry sauce, please

My preferences are Fener and Anomandaris for being roled, however, since that would only double the effort people invest in looking into the group around Mockra, we might want to pick an entirely different target. If so, I'd like to pick Telas as a secondary choice because he has been steaming rather silently through the game and yet has 60 posts. I'll have to do a re-read, but he was to my mind never really outspoken about Fener.

If you have other ideas, please let me know - to P-S, any target Tennes submits is oki with me and hereby confirmed.

Cheers,

Tapper

[Path-Shaper]

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But, if you'll go read the rules, and find where it says don't quote PS pm's, Copy that part, and pm it to me, I'll forgive you.

B7) Quote, in whole or part, PMs from (or other private conversations with) the mods on the thread, or discuss the timing of any PMs sent to the mods.

Sorry again. If you want to modkill me go ahead, I broke the rules.

Nah, you've played a good game, and it wasn't that big of a deal, don't let the others know I said that, lol. Anyway, shit happens sometimes, no need for me to be a dick. You learn this way.

In my defence, I was up at 3am revealing and defending myself, i've had no sleep and I really didn't expect to have to defend myself after Mockra came up guilty. It's very frustrating.

A thousand time sorry. The rules are the same at Westeros, so I should have known better.

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Gamelon...You've been promoted. Meet Tennes. You are now partners. I still need that recipe....

You may communicate off thread at all times.

Heya Tennes,

I'm your new partner (since I don't see restrictions against it: Tapper here).
Nice kill there on Kesso, hopefully one finder out of the way. It seems we'll have to lean on the back foot right now, see what else starts stirring. Do you have any opinions on who your other symp might be?

Cheers,

Tapper

Well actually I thought that tellan/Ment was the other symp.... I had no clue that you were my symp well done.

Vengeance

Tennes strategizes with Gamelon. They don't realize they already killed the only healer, and they think I just made a blunder! Will they leave Fener up?!

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Thought it time to submit one, can always change it after all.

Serve Fener with an apple in the mouth and with cranberry sauce, please

My preferences are Fener and Anomandaris for being roled, however, since that would only double the effort people invest in looking into the group around Mockra, we might want to pick an entirely different target. If so, I'd like to pick Telas as a secondary choice because he has been steaming rather silently through the game and yet has 60 posts. I'll have to do a re-read, but he was to my mind never really outspoken about Fener.

If you have other ideas, please let me know - to P-S, any target Tennes submits is oki with me and hereby confirmed.

Cheers,

Tapper

Noted. Also Tapper, I usually accept an order from either without confirmation from the other, for timezone reasons. I will do so here.

As much I want to take Fener out. I think that healers if there are some are going to be protecting him. But lets leave it on for now.

Very likely, aye, but just how many roled inno's are there going to be? Paired finders, paired guards and then Kesso...
That was the only reason why I tried. Feel free to change it later on, I'll be gone for several hours in 45.

I am pretty sure that Kesso was Fener's Partner... If he really was a finder that is.

If he was, that was a pretty horrible play. I thought the investigation of Fener a likely one, and two solo finders to compensate for the symps turning into killers a likely one.

Perhaps. We had our provisional on him before he decided to reveal. When we thought that Fener was going to get lynched...Doooo

Well, nice detectivework in getting him before his reveal, though.

Well now you are sitting pretty what with Fener's early find clearing you. If there are healers out there then for sure they are going to be healing Fener tonight and probably ever night. So I think that the best thing that we can do is to try to take out the other roled players.