[Zanth13]

Final Fantasy 7 will have to go down as my fav RPG, just because it was so awesome when I played really made me enjoy gaming...

Breath of Fire was (for super NES) was also awesome for its time... long and complicated story...

I enjoy Fall out 3, and Oblivion for current good RPGs...

I remember playing Morrowin for X-box and trying to fight something and never having any blows land... very sad...

[Mentalist]

Eddie Dean, on Apr 21 2009, 06:24 PM, said:

I've never played the original Fallout. Is it a PC game?

yes it is
tried playing this today, difficult with a touchpad, but doable

stupid rad scorpions.....

it can be found on the net, it's standard-sized game (1 CD), it runs on XP if you enable win 95 compatibility.

[lobo the wolfman]

Neverwinter nights , Baldurs Gate 1&2, and KOTOR 1&2 are all good, but my favs where the old Phantasy Stars on the sega master system and the megadrive. Phantasy Four 4 was fucking awesone in my book.

[Skywalker]

First: Honorable mention must go to Dink Smallwood... a freeware RPG made back in the day I used to have a Pentium 1 PC. It was fun and wacky.

My intro to RPG's on consoles were KOTOR and KOTOR II - pure awesome, I thought. So I went and bought Jade Empire (also by Bioware - the guys that made KOTOR), and it was pretty fun.

Then I bought Fable and Elder Scrolls: Morrowind for my original xbox (long ago). Played Fable for a while but then got turned off just as I started getting quests outside the academy or whatever. Morrowind... I don't think I ever made it out of the first town on the flying transport thing... it seemed too... sedate. Also, like Zanth says, I remember leaving the first town and trying to kill some critter... never landed a blow and my character kept getting exhausted. So I gave up.

Recently on my Wii, I really enjoyed Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess... fairly linear of course, so I'm not sure it even qualifies as an RPG in these open-ended RPG days... but the storytelling and graphics and gameplay are fantastic.

Anyone know of a good RPG I can pick up for the Wii, cheapish?

[Silencer]

Actually, Skywalker, you bring up an interesting point with Zelda. Technically, all games in existance are role-playing games - you are, after all, playing in a certain role. Of course, an RPG is technically one where you can choose which role you play...but that's actually not what the words say.

Hell, I don't even know if I would consider Zelda an RPG, based on the comparitive materials...but it technically is. Glad some people have mentioned KOTOR - those are two pretty darn decent RPG's.

(And yeah, plenty of people have trouble getting into Morrowind...but as an actual RPG...crap, it's definitely one of the most awesome in existance. That's the problem with it, you see...too much freedom, not enough guidance for most people. Then they introduced quest markers in Oblivion. Has anyone actually had difficulty finding anything in that game without disabling the quest markers? Personally, I just consider the inability to hit something the result of using the wrong weapon for your character, or not picking your skills to fit what you want to use, and that's why you suck with it. Kind of gives the impression that your enemies can actually move out of the way of your strikes, or parry, even if the animations aren't there.)

[Skywalker]

Hmm... I'm willing to give Morrowind another go sometime soon. I'm always behind the curve on both having the latest consoles and games, so there's no completion pressure I still play on my original xbox (this gets me whadaaphuk? looks from all the 360-ers around me)...

Can't hope to play oblivion with its quest markers though... no 360.

[Eddie Dean]

I tried Morrowind three times and quit before I finally started to enjoy it. I grabbed a walkthrough of the internet and used it until I got a good feeling for the game. It takes a while to get used to, but once you do, it is really fun.

This post has been edited by Eddie Dean: 22 April 2009 - 04:27 PM

[Avatar]

I loved some of the old ones:

Lands of Lore
Ultima VII and VIII

Kotor was perfect! Atmosphere, good story, action, everything. Part 2 was, well, not aweful but so much weaker than the 1st one.

And after Kotor I started to play the other Bioware RPG's:

Finished Baldur's Gate 1, still in the middle of part 2 right now.
And started Planescape Torment, but one of the cd's got broken :-(

Do you guys agree that there is something about Planescape that reminds you of SE's books? For someone who loved Planescape, I would recommend Erikson (and the other way around.)

[Pig Iron]

Baldur's Gate II, FF VII, KOTOR ... feel good just thinking about them. Rank with really good novels.

[Old Magic]

played world of warcraft for a couple years, the last expansion turned me off it for good though.. too much baloney.. Actually went back to Diablo2 for shits and giggles recently.. thats my type of game.. bloody arcade-type character building.. D3 looks amazing, can't wait!

[Imperial Historian]

Only RPG I ever really got into was baldur's gate 2, I still play it from time to time installing the huge variety of mods for some new content.

I've played a few others since but none that really stood out, best i've played was mount and blade, but since that technically lacks a story I'm not sure it counts. I tried oblivion, icewind dale, final fantasy 7, but none of them seemed to have the combination of freedom, party interactions and storyline which I loved about baldur's gate. Anyone any recommendations for any RPG's that can macth baldur's gate in that respect?

I was thinking of trying morrowind, but the lack of the party dynamic, and the fact I didn't like oblivion is putting me off...

[Pig Iron]

Mass Effect is very reminiscent of BG II as far as interaction with the chars in your party (not surprisingly). Quite good.

[Mentalist]

Imperial Historian, on May 5 2009, 01:16 PM, said:

Only RPG I ever really got into was baldur's gate 2, I still play it from time to time installing the huge variety of mods for some new content.

I've played a few others since but none that really stood out, best i've played was mount and blade, but since that technically lacks a story I'm not sure it counts. I tried oblivion, icewind dale, final fantasy 7, but none of them seemed to have the combination of freedom, party interactions and storyline which I loved about baldur's gate. Anyone any recommendations for any RPG's that can macth baldur's gate in that respect?

I was thinking of trying morrowind, but the lack of the party dynamic, and the fact I didn't like oblivion is putting me off...

Planescape: Torment is regarded as a classic.
it might suit your taste.

[Silencer]

PST is a great game.

Morrowind is...different to Oblivion. I won't say any more, lest I embark on another epic rant.
Though if you tell us what you disliked about Oblivion, then I might be able to point out specific differences without getting too worked up.

Regarding whether M&B counts as a RPG, you'd have to ask yourself what an RPG is. Is it a game with a story, or a game with character stats...or is it a game where you pretend to be something else, and play it as such? Perhaps crafting your own stories. Or a game in which you can live a normal life. The only reason M&B would not be an RPG is that it doesn't have a storyline, and in my opinion, that doesn't make it one way or the other. Technically, in the classical sense, perhaps it's not.
Eh, I feel another rant coming on. So I'll stop.
*sigh*

[Wordmerchant]

So why is everyone talking about video games in an RPG thread? RPGs are played at a table, with dice, character sheets, and other live human beings. For the record - Call of Cthulhu is the ultimate RPG.

[Imperial Historian]

Well I reinstalled M&B and am thoruoghly enjoying that, the new version is much improved. Woth regards to the whole story issue, yes I agree it's not really necessary, and I'd say the finished version is definitely an RPG, the older versions seemed to be more a medieval combat simulator, now the combat is much more intergrated with an overarching goal. The war system they have introduced really adds something to the game.

My main quibble with oblivion was that the imersion factor wasn't there... I just didn't want to continue playing. The first person combat system wasn't great, and I dunno the world just seemed lifeless. There also didn't really seem to be the fun factor you get from getting stronger and demolishing foes, picking up a neat piece of kit etc, everyone was always as strong as you and combat was very samey.

I might give PST a try.

[Silencer]

Imperial Historian, on May 11 2009, 05:25 AM, said:

Well I reinstalled M&B and am thoruoghly enjoying that, the new version is much improved. Woth regards to the whole story issue, yes I agree it's not really necessary, and I'd say the finished version is definitely an RPG, the older versions seemed to be more a medieval combat simulator, now the combat is much more intergrated with an overarching goal. The war system they have introduced really adds something to the game.

My main quibble with oblivion was that the imersion factor wasn't there... I just didn't want to continue playing. The first person combat system wasn't great, and I dunno the world just seemed lifeless. There also didn't really seem to be the fun factor you get from getting stronger and demolishing foes, picking up a neat piece of kit etc, everyone was always as strong as you and combat was very samey.

I might give PST a try.

Quoted for Truth. And do try Planescape. Though isometric can put some people off, it's the story and RP elements that are worth it.

@Wordmerchant, it's a CRPG thread, and besides which, Knoll Barrow is specifically for PnP RPG, so why you'd expect to see a topic regarding that in the general games forum is beyond me.
(And really, RPG's are role-playing games, which, in a literal definition, encompasses all computer games where you are someone else - stats or no)

[Satan]

I actually find that isometric graphic a lot more enjoyable than the 3d one. The 3d technology just haven't come far enough to replicate that baroque feeling you get from the isometric landscapes (just imagine planescape: torment in 3d).

And here's one for a revival of the lands of lore series! The storyline in the last one was fucking epic!

This post has been edited by Brynjar: 13 May 2009 - 09:37 AM

[MTS]

Imperial Historian, on May 6 2009, 03:16 AM, said:

Only RPG I ever really got into was baldur's gate 2, I still play it from time to time installing the huge variety of mods for some new content.

I've played a few others since but none that really stood out, best i've played was mount and blade, but since that technically lacks a story I'm not sure it counts. I tried oblivion, icewind dale, final fantasy 7, but none of them seemed to have the combination of freedom, party interactions and storyline which I loved about baldur's gate. Anyone any recommendations for any RPG's that can macth baldur's gate in that respect?

I was thinking of trying morrowind, but the lack of the party dynamic, and the fact I didn't like oblivion is putting me off...

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic is great. There is a lot of freedom in how you go about things, although not quite to the extent of Baldur's Gate, party interaction is quite good (although they're not all Jedi), character interactions like levelling and everything is great (it has a good/evil character dynamic like Baldur's Gate does), and the story is amazing.

Final Fantasy VIII and Final Fantasy X I would think are more your cup of tea in this franchise when it comes to story, party interaction and freedom. VII is much more linear than those ones, and there is a lot more emphasis on party development in the latter two. The stories are just as good, especially in VIII.

[Lucy Tepes]

I'd have to say mine would be The Sims 2 for computer and my online one would be Tribal Wars. I think its fun controlling lives in the sims and carrying out the future you'd whant to happen in real life. Also being in charge is fun on Tribal Wars.