[Macros]

you forgot

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cadsuane remained, surprisingly, a complete argogant annoying old bitch who needs to die, with a spoon.
And some of the lamest whinging yet from the females and rands mind.
Ogiers are suddenly super fighters and not ladyboys anymore
A load of people suicided and not a single fan gave a shit, which made RJ cry a little
I think thats all
oh rand lost a hand and for a split seoncd was cool, when he shrugged it off, don't worry hes and insufferable douchebag again

[Illuyankas]

I was trying to forget your first sentence.

[Abyss]

I am clearly the only person in the world who liked the Cadsuane character.

- Abyss, has a thing for centuries older women...

[Obdigore]

So I apparently forgot to read KoD, since I don't remember any of that.

Oh well.

The last thing I remember is:

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Rand and the other non-batshit crazy good ashaman in a farmhouse with some aes sedai and then an army of trollocs attacks and rand sends SUPERHALFGATESOFDOOM to cut them in half.

Also, the other male sedai learns how to do it.

And ahhh.... hrm, thats it.

This post has been edited by Obdigore: 08 May 2009 - 09:33 PM

[Werthead]

Is there some way of putting a spoiler warning on the title of the thread? This is getting tedious and if we're talking about Book 12 it stands to reason that people should have read Books 1-11 beforehand. Anyway:

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And some of the lamest whinging yet from the females and rands mind

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Meh, not as bad as anything in Book 10.

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Ogiers are suddenly super fighters and not ladyboys anymore

Huh?

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Loial has been cleaving in Trollocs' faces with axes as far back as Book 1. The Ogier are slow to anger but you really don't want to piss them off. The Seanchan Ogier have also been heavy shock troops in their armies for centuries and the Ogier have fought in all of the major wars as well. Don't get this complaint at all.

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A load of people suicided and not a single fan gave a shit, which made RJ cry a little

Yeah, that was lame.

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If all the Tinkers,f or example, had commited racial suicide people might have been given pause as we've met a few characters from their ranks and it made sense given their pacifistic beliefs and they had no place in the world of the Last Battle. On the other hand, the Amayar weren't even mentioned in the main series until the end of Book 9 and we met precisely one for about two paragraphs. No-one gave a toss about them.

[RodeoRanch]

There you go, Wert.

[Skywalker]

I had totally missed the

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Amayar

bit

Oh and Wert... one other thing I think you missed:

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All around randland, the dead seem to be coming back from, uh... the dead. There are ghosties everywhere, and although it seems momentous, portentous, pretentious even, nothing came off it except a few faux-scary scenes

[Nether]

Hooddamn I've forgotten a lot of stuff! I didn't remember half of the spoilers posted here. Really not looking forward to a re-read, so maybe I'll just skip it and try to remember stuff along the way of reading the new books. Hope Sanderson puts some new fire on the cold fireplace that is the Wheel of Time series.

[Mezla PigDog]

Wow, all of these spoilers are making the books actually sound exciting!! Wert's summary is just fantabulous.

[Yellow]

Despite Wert's summary, I still say nothing happened in KoD.

[MTS]

Seconded. Still, I'll read the book, in the hopes Sanderson actually does something good with it.

[Illuyankas]

Yellow, on May 12 2009, 07:15 AM, said:

Despite Wert's summary, I still say nothing happened in KoD.

I disagree, but that's mainly because 1; KoD actually took time to happen, unlike the almost entirely-flashback, one day of timeline progression CoT, and 2; I have an unreasonable love for terrible jokes, including 'need a hand' and its relations.

[Cause]

Almost too much happened in KoD. After 1000s of pages of reading and every character is still where he was only for

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Rand to lose his hand, capture a forsaken, the entire imperial family assasinated

these things deserved more than the ten pages each they got and for a series eleven books long how did he misjudge it so badly

[Macros]

he was desperate for more money

[Zhuangzi]

Cause, on May 12 2009, 12:26 PM, said:

Almost too much happened in KoD. After 1000s of pages of reading and every character is still where he was only for

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Rand to lose his hand, capture a forsaken, the entire imperial family assasinated

these things deserved more than the ten pages each they got and for a series eleven books long how did he misjudge it so badly

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which hand did he lose? wasn't there something wrong with one of his hands, or am I thinking of Matt...?

[Werthead]

In fairness to Jordan, after years of denial he clearly did recognise that something had gone terribly wrong with WoT and he needed to fix it. I don't think the fixing was done very elegantly and he probably overcompensated, but after the dull direness of the preceding three books, KoD was still a massive improvement and set things up well for the last act of the story.

[Yellow]

KoD was a bit of an improvement on CoT but meh, not by much. It was still a bit crap. Cause summed it up quite well just above. By the time anything interesting happened, it had already been dullened immensely by 25 pages of Mat buying a horse, or something.

Illuyankas, on May 12 2009, 01:54 PM, said:

I disagree

I double disagree!

[Werthead]

The final US cover art:




That is, even by Sweet's standards, totally fecking awful.

[masan's saddle]

Werthead, on May 14 2009, 10:56 PM, said:

The final US cover art:




That is, even by Sweet's standards, totally fecking awful.

Dear God that is absolute shite

Poor American chums, I feel for you.

Looks like Rand has just farted a hole in the house and is celebrating by doing an N-SYNC dance routine.

I reckon any of the artists in the Maz art forum could do a better job, seriously.

Well at least I won't have to look at it

[Sheve]

Spoiler

The armies of Arad Doman, without any outside help, draw the Seanchan army in Tarabon into a trap and destroy them. General Ituralde does this by getting sniper crossbowmen and archers to murder the damane with the army before they can do anything, and this works well. This makes Ituralde a better general than Rand in the space of about three pages. Impressive.

we have from the start of the series been told what a great general Ituralde is so no suprise here.

This post has been edited by Sheve: 15 May 2009 - 12:16 AM