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I'm Spinning The Wheel of Time **Spoilers** Dare you tread The Path of Spoilers

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 03:18 AM

For me, the biggest problem I've had is the drawn out plots...forever...

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 03:27 AM

Xander...you write, right? Well, if you do, you know much of a pain in the ass it can be to tie up inconsistencies... I imagine it's particularly troublesome with thousands of pages of already published text. But he should have had it worked out in advance. It's the same reason I worry about GRRM...he says he lets the characters tell the story.

SE's got a plan and he's sticking to it, I think.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 03:28 AM

Slumgullion Spitteler;283796 said:

Xander...you write, right? Well, if you do, you know much of a pain in the ass it can be to tie up inconsistencies... I imagine it's particularly troublesome with thousands of pages of already published text. But he should have had it worked out in advance. It's the same reason I worry about GRRM...he says he lets the characters tell the story.

SE's got a plan and he's sticking to it, I think.


No I understand, but I'm just saying it was a bit excessive. I worry about GRRM as well, I think aDwD will answer our questions...I hope. SE has plotted his story out from the beginning, obviously.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 04:21 AM

Adding to the above...it's probably why GRRM's taking so long. It's got to be a bitch to keep track of all those characters. No wonder he needed to build an addition...he's got to keep his storyboards somewhere.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 12:23 PM

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Perrin is much cooler when he lets the wolf side take over.

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The Golden Crane Flies For Tarmon Gai'don! :folken:

One of my favorite parts of the book as well.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 02:57 PM

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The Golden Crane Flies For Tarmon Gai'don! :folken:One of my favorite parts of the book as well.


Agreed. Could have used about three chapters more of it.

- Abyss, always knew Nyneave had it in her if she would just bloody stop tugging her arms and crossing her braid all the time...
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 03:33 PM

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- Abyss, always knew Nyneave had it in her if she would just bloody stop tugging her arms and crossing her braid all the time...


She also needs to stop washing her shift and changing her face.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 03:45 PM

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She also needs to stop washing her shift and changing her face.


No, she needs to keep washing her shift, it just dosen't need to be written about.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 03:55 PM

I think rand needs to stop whining and start boning
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 04:01 PM

I'd love to see Graendal exposed... she's essentially been making naked royals do acrobatics the past few books... I'd also love to see why that nobleman Ituralde is important enough to get a POV in the prologue of COT... I'd want the #@&^%$# Aes Sedai to get their act together and attack the Black Tower already. Lets have mass pawnage until the number of One Power users are down to manageable numbers like they were until the third book.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:07 PM

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I'd also love to see why that nobleman Ituralde is important enough to get a POV in the prologue of COT...


Wasn't Rodel Ituralde considered one of the greatest military commanders alive? Haven't read COT, so just a suggestion.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:08 PM

Yes, I believe he is considered one of the best...

The thing is, he and his army are seen basically mucking around Arad Doman being way too smart to figure out what they are up to. It is extremely frustrating to see them go from battle to battle without a clue on how these battles fit in to the big picture
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 08:57 PM

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Yes, I believe he is considered one of the best...

The thing is, he and his army are seen basically mucking around Arad Doman being way too smart to figure out what they are up to. It is extremely frustrating to see them go from battle to battle without a clue on how these battles fit in to the big picture


The Fox is mentioned as being on par with Gareth Byrne, Agelmar Jagad, and Pedron Niall.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 11:50 PM

Yes, Rodel is considered one of the "5 Great Captains". He's often underestimated because of his height...which seems to be a little too heavily played upon in the series. We get it RJ! Height matters, sheesh.
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 12:18 AM

The idea is that Ituralde is planning to destroy the Seanchan armies without any channellers on his side to take care of the damane, which is pretty ambitious. He makes a good start in KoD when he has his archers massacre the damane before they can channel, which was unexpectedly ruthless (the sort of thing Rand wouldn't do, for example). I think the idea was to enrage the Seanchan into hurtling northwards into a trap. I guess this will form a vital part of the start of Book 12.
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 12:48 AM

This pisses me off, one book will not be enough to tie up these loose ends.

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 06:09 AM

Yeah, there's not enough time/room for everything. RJ's fault for procrastinating for so long. Somebody already mentioned above:

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 06:10 AM

Couldn't agree more Yellow. All the women parts are waaaaaay too drawn out. It's like he's going way out of his way to make women important.
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 09:06 AM

I think the series downturn after six is a great arguement for never working with your spouse.
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 03:22 PM

@Abyss - Why not. She's widow now. She can legaly re-marry
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