[Morgoth]

the seguleh does not strike me as the kind of people that would bend the rules of their society

[Tiger_sword]

Im sure that if the third beat the first then he becomes the first because he takes the mask of whoever he beats thus he would have the mask of the first and hence would be the first. Therefore the absence of the second is an annoyance but it does not overly concern the Seguleh. The problem then is what happens if one dies of natural corses? How long do Seguleh live?

[Morgoth]

I'd wager that such an occurance would be rare. I mean, before dying of old age, you'd grow slow enough for a challenger to wipe the floor with you.

With sickness and stuff though, perhaps the fighters wanting to claim the position will fight each other?

[MecnunK]

Yes but since it is a fairly rigid society and fighting capabilities are of prime importance playing a role in their daily lives makes the sudden rise of a kickass swordsman who could come from nowhere and beat the second or first should be rare unless it is an outsider. After all the third is the third because he is the best of the rest except the first two plus I cant see a 15th ranked fighter challenging the spot of the 2nd or even the third. I would expect him to challenge the 14th and move through teh ranks.

[Slick Mongoose]

"After all the third is the third because he is the best of the rest except the first two"

This doesn't have to be the case... A particularly clever Seguleh could probably just hold a lower position in order to reduce the number of challengers. Not likely, though, given their mentality.

[fan_83]

slick: then any higher ranked seguleh can order him off on suicide missions...

[frank]

Why does everyone assume that a person/being who kills the 2nd would have ANY interest in taking his place!? As long as there was no other seguleh close when it happened noone else will pin it on him/her either. So I belive THIS is the lost 2nd seguleh. Why complicate things?

[Illuyankas]

Skinner is NOT Dassem because they fought, with witnesses, and came away from each other alive. What gave you that idea?

[Ivan the terrible]

Seguleh society is far more stable than constant fights and anarchy, only among the lower levels is position constantly established, kind of like a teenager seeking their ID. Once you reach a certain rank i would imagine challenges stop or at least slow as rep has been established. The constant battles with tool are explained by him as a testing of an unknown power. Who defers to none this would seriously screw with seguleh customs and thus provike a fight.The first especially imposes order, because krul refers to him as a well known individual in MOI as if both him and envy have prior knowledge of him, without a stable leadership their society could not exist and plan, to be held in preperation for the tyrant

[tiam]

The seguleh second was killed by skinner thats why hes looking for him. It makes perfect sense. Hood wouldnt send his men round looking for avowed. He would have to have some serios firepower behind him. OK dassem and the seguleh second are good enough but if he goes after the avowed why doesnt he go after the imass or any other undead. I understand the immass would kick his ass but the avowed are not pushovers.

As for the mask i think he just kept it because skinner didnt want it. Why woulld he want to show off. iron bars is good but hes modest as are most soldiers.

[Shield Anvil]

tiam said:

The seguleh second was killed by skinner thats why hes looking for him. It makes perfect sense. Hood wouldnt send his men round looking for avowed. He would have to have some serios firepower behind him. OK dassem and the seguleh second are good enough but if he goes after the avowed why doesnt he go after the imass or any other undead. I understand the immass would kick his ass but the avowed are not pushovers.

As for the mask i think he just kept it because skinner didnt want it. Why woulld he want to show off. iron bars is good but hes modest as are most soldiers.

I think Hood would send his top men to look for avoweds, after all the avoweds cheated Hood of their deaths, and no one cheats death. And the avowed differs from the Imass cause they became immortal during Hood's reign, compared to the Imass who’ve been in the game a little bit longer than Hood.

[fan_83]

and not to mention the fact that the imass has enough firepower to literally cooks hood's ass

[Morgoth]

ah, but do we know that? Hood seems to have quite a few minions, and unlike Shadowthrone and Cotillion I am sure he has full control of the demons of his realm. The T'Lann Imass are powerfull indeed, but they have been heavily reduced during the millenias of warfare. I do not think a war between the two would be as clear cut. Perhaps the very reason they have not moved against him - If hood is indeed Jaghut- is because they do not believe themselves strong enoug

[fan_83]

morgoth, then why did hood pull back gethol when threatened by 3 bonecaster?

and they did commment that hood don;t dare a confrantation agaisnt the imass.... even one tribe of the imass is probably enough to start assailing hoods warren and start poking holes in it

[Morgoth]

again, I believe my point about the imass can be made for Hood as well. The fact that the one does not wish to confront the other is not the same as the one is more powerfull than the other. In addition, my impression is that if you declare war on one clan, you get them all fighting you, so Hood might have feared the whole race, not just those three