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COVID-19 (aka Coronavirus, aka 2019-nCoV)

#2221 User is offline   stone monkey 

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Posted 14 October 2020 - 06:38 PM

A lecture given by Dr Anthony Fauci on Public Health lessons arising from the current situation - from the end of September. The lecture proper starts at about 2:25



I will say this for him, he's quite an engaging speaker.
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Posted 14 October 2020 - 07:19 PM

We have kept our daughter out of the physical school system and opted for Virtual since we are both Working From Home right now, and the TDSB and provincial govt have mucked up school during COVID...virtual Junior Kindergarten is...interesting but we are managing.

Our son, however, is still only around 2 and so he's at daycare. Now, our Daycare reopened in July with super strict rules, screening and cohorts ect. We put him back in on Sept 1. They seemed to be managing amongst COVID well...a mild cold went round his class and took him out for about a week (I even got a mild case and it's the first time I've been sick all year). We also got him a COVID test (little trooper managed it at only 2 years old!) and he was negative. Fast forward to this past week and there are now TWO COVID positive infections in students in the daycare. Neither are in my sons cohort/classroom thankfully, so the odds he's been exposed to them is small...and apparently neither infection came from community travel of the virus within the care centre...they both have been traced to have come from outside within those families.

That said, he was a little snuffly again today so we kept him home just in case he has a recurrence of that cold from last week (rich, careless parents at our daycare stuff their kids with meds when they are sick and send them in anyways even though they aren't supposed to, causing any given cold to go around longer than it needs to)...but now that these two covid cases have been reported, we are worried about sending him back...so we are hanging onto him till Monday to try to avoid any further spread of the virus that might make it's way into his cohort...

But it's utterly NERVE-WRACKING that even with the stringent screening in place at our care centre (and when I say they are good, I mean they are really good at this) that asymptomatic kids can wiggle through the screening (we were told the two infected kids passed the screening due to not showing symptoms) and expose other kids and staff to COVID anyways.

Like what do we do? We would keep him home for the rest of the year with his sister (again because we are able to work from home right now it's certainly POSSIBLE; if not ideal) but then we would either pay for the empty $100/day spot at our daycare or lose the spot and never get another one in the city.

It's just brutal all around that even after doing the right shit for 6 months, we have to deal with exposure to this virus through the cracks.

Anyways, just ranting...my city is the whole countries real COVID fire and has been for a long time.

We are hopefully getting approved for a mortgage soon so we can move out of the city FINALLY...but it's a long process and we keep missing out on houses because they go so fast in a hot market...

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Posted 14 October 2020 - 08:00 PM

Surprising absolutely no-one, my last game of the season was cancelled.

Thankfully, the pools are gonna stay open on the same, sign-up basis.
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And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 15 October 2020 - 04:36 PM

6600+ new cases in Germany today. And people are all up in arms because some states refuse to let people from counties deemed to be risk areas stay overnight. You assholes, can't you just stay put at home for a bit? It's not like we're under lockdown, you're just not supposed to be vacationing willy-nilly across the country. How difficult can that possibly be?! I mean, I can get behind it being difficult for some people to not see family and friends but vacationing?! Nobody NEEDS vacationing. Not to mention these idiots are clogging up the Covid-testing stations because omg, they need their stupid negative test to stay in a hotel.

I just got a new job. If I lose it because people cause another lockdown, I am ripping SOMEONE a new one, don't care who. Possibly that guy who tried to talk me out of my number on Monday claiming everyone needs people around them. No, put your mask on properly and get out of my sight, you bastard.
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Posted 15 October 2020 - 09:12 PM

We got the news today that my kids teacher is isolating after his mother had a positive test. I've been imagining covid symptoms ever since. Aches and pains and funky throat. Pretty sure they are not real.... Also pretty sure we will be in national lockdown again before the end of the month so I don't want to have to isolate before then.
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Posted 16 October 2020 - 08:09 AM

Our lockdown starts today.
Everything is shutting up again.

Fuck people and their "need" for a vacation.

You need to stay the fuck at home
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Posted 16 October 2020 - 08:34 AM

How locked down is your lock down? Whole country? All businesses? Or is it more strategic?
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Posted 16 October 2020 - 04:03 PM

The shithouse paper hoarding is back in full force over here :rolleyes: Someone tell these idiots to chill.
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Posted 16 October 2020 - 04:22 PM

View PostPuck, on 16 October 2020 - 04:03 PM, said:

The shithouse paper hoarding is back in full force over here :rolleyes: Someone tell these idiots to chill.


If it's anything like ours, it will be a blip this time. We had about a week of that nonsense as the 2nd wave began in late Sept with people doing that, but they stopped now.
Super annoying though.
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Posted 16 October 2020 - 04:50 PM

We had the same, but haven't seen it since. Fingers crossed it'll be the same for you Puck!
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Posted 18 October 2020 - 08:38 PM

Dr. Fauci interview will air on 60 min this evening in the U.S. I saw a snippet from it and damn he looks worn down.
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Posted 19 October 2020 - 06:15 PM

Watched the interview and got very angry. If you want to get angry, you should watch it too. People are complete shit heads. And our superspreader in chief encourages it all.
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Posted Yesterday, 02:27 PM

Ugh, caught some acquaintance of a friend of my wife's on FB sea-lioning about masks. So I went in on her.

Wife posted an article about the Doctors in Ontario advising that no trick or treating happen on Halloween this year in the hotspots because it was a risk not worth taking. Makes sense.

Then this woman chimes in (a woman who previously tried to swindle my wife into an MLM...oi vey!) and says the equivalent of "I wear my mask, but people are not wearing them properly so the CDC says 70% of people getting Covid are mask wearers and 30% of people getting it are anti-maskers..." which is utter and complete bullshit for starters. Second it's taking the CDC report she got it from completely out of context (the line she cited was about how people getting it are getting it without their masks on...AKA when eating, around family at home, or in closed environments...and not Masks VS Anti-masks at all), it was so bad that FB fact checkers threw a warning up on her page she attempted to pull from the doc to "prove me wrong" saying it was 'missing context' (Huzzah for FB fact checkers for once). She then tried to say she's all about truth....then why the hell are you sea-lioning about maskers VS anti-maskers on this comment thread with info lacking context? What purpose does that serve you?

I will never understand this need to gainsay the protection measures we have in place like this. Wear a mask, socially distance when you can't, don't go where you don't need to go, stay in your bubble of people if you can. Flatten the curve. This. Is. Not. Hard.
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Posted Yesterday, 03:20 PM

Ireland's back into full lock down basically as of Wednesday midnight. Or today midnight.
Basically now, for 4-6 weeks

Completely back to where we were in march/April.

Huzzah!
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Posted Yesterday, 03:45 PM

I can't see the rest of the UK being far behind at this rate. Wales are in an at least two week full lockdown, and apparently most of the north of England and Midlands that isn't already in Tier 3 is going to be bumped up.

I know you can't account for the conspiracy theory lot and the terminally stupid, but I can't help but feel a short full national lockdown would case a good deal less confusion - particularly when the Liverpool/Lancashire/Greater Manchester situation is already showing differences within the same tier.

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Posted Yesterday, 04:27 PM

I still love this quote from Dresden files

Evil isnít the real threat to the world. Stupid is just as destructive as Evil, maybe more so, and itís a hell of a lot more common. What we really need is a crusade against Stupid. That might actually make a difference.

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Posted Yesterday, 04:31 PM

View PostMacros, on 20 October 2020 - 03:20 PM, said:

Ireland's back into full lock down basically as of Wednesday midnight. Or today midnight.
Basically now, for 4-6 weeks

Completely back to where we were in march/April.

Huzzah!


Gods man, that sucks. Hope you all make it through okay.

View PostTheRetiredBridgeburner, on 20 October 2020 - 03:45 PM, said:

I can't see the rest of the UK being far behind at this rate. Wales are in an at least two week full lockdown, and apparently most of the north of England and Midlands that isn't already in Tier 3 is going to be bumped up.

I know you can't account for the conspiracy theory lot and the terminally stupid, but I can't help but feel a short full national lockdown would case a good deal less confusion - particularly when the Liverpool/Lancashire/Greater Manchester situation is already showing differences within the same tier.


Yes, my relatives in the UK (Gloucester) are preparing for this too as they see it as unavoidably happening.

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On our end, our provincial Conservative govt has been too behind the public health advice (reactive rather than proactive) and refuse to anger the anti-lockdown people with full lockdown, but today we had 821 cases, 3.4% positivity (which is insane), and only 24k tests administered...so unless they do something more drastic soon, we are going to be even more fucked.

I'm losing the battle for my mental health amidst all this. Living at the epicentre of the Ontario outbreak is not helping that feeling.

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Posted Yesterday, 05:18 PM

I think the thing about masks that the messaging has been particularly poor about is that the masks are no longer to prevent you getting covid! To do that you need to wear them Properly, have a fit test, be careful in how you take them off.

We wear masks now to stop us spreading the disease to others. It blocks tour breath. To do this it doesnít have to be worn perfectly.

If everyone wears the mask and you socially distance the likelihood of you taking off your mask improperly and rubbing covid into your eye should not be an issue.

Thatís why people like fauchi advised against masks to start. It didnít make sense to stop you getting it if you were one in a hundred. It makes sense if we are 99 out of a hundred.

They really need to hammer home this point. I think they donít sometimes because wearing a mask is now a service to others not yourself when phrased this way. We all benefit though if we all do it
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Posted Yesterday, 06:52 PM

 TheRetiredBridgeburner, on 20 October 2020 - 03:45 PM, said:

I can't see the rest of the UK being far behind at this rate. Wales are in an at least two week full lockdown, and apparently most of the north of England and Midlands that isn't already in Tier 3 is going to be bumped up.

I know you can't account for the conspiracy theory lot and the terminally stupid, but I can't help but feel a short full national lockdown would case a good deal less confusion - particularly when the Liverpool/Lancashire/Greater Manchester situation is already showing differences within the same tier.


I don't think it will happen before there is serious anti-government sentiment in the Tory strongholds and their majority looks shaken. My MP is all over Twitter saying that national lockdown is inappropriate because of the economic devastation. Our covid rates are low, relatively speaking. I kind of want to say that I'm willing to take the hit personally for the greater good but not if they close schools. If they close school I think even though I want to be the bigger person, I don't have it in me.

I would love to see a full breakdown of the demographics of the areas with high rates vs low now. I don't for a moment believe that any area has some kind of moral superiority for why their rates are lower. We should really take a national approach and with school half term holidays next week there is no time like the present to get it organised.
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Posted Yesterday, 07:21 PM

More upheaval at work. As well as cancelling all elective surgery last week, 3 junior anaesthetists tested positive and got sent off.

Shortly after.. several more, who live with/car share/generally work with, all got NHS messages that they needed to isolate as they'd been in contact with people who had tested positive. So did one of the consultants! So, even though there are only 3 positives - a total of 15 from the anaesthetic team are off.

This has triggered a knee jerk, poorly thought out series of events, as where they have been comes under scrutiny. In theatre, where they work (and I do) we had people come round and take a load of chairs out of out coffee rooms removing stuff from the walls (!) and then got them deep cleaned. We're currently getting our staff kitchen refitted, so now we have no kitchen, running water, coffee rooms... it's just as well we've only got a couple of lists running.

We took chairs and such and set up an alternative, better spaced area in the currently unused theatre 1. Someone stuck a radio in there, and it's a bit like a hobo camp but at least we have somewhere to sit!

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So that's the story. And what was the real lesson? Don't leave things in the fridge.
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