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#821 User is offline   Tattersail_ 

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Posted 01 November 2019 - 01:46 PM

View PostJazzarm, on 01 November 2019 - 01:39 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 01 November 2019 - 01:06 PM, said:

When are you planning on popping technology? Is that one of the actions?


Considering the entire point of Tar'mann was using it for the green skip, yes, I was planning to pop tech before moving out. It doesn't have to be first action, though.


I know. If you can wait on the technology until I play Logistics that would be grand but it doesn't matter that much thinking about it. If you could move out of Tar'mann on your third or fourth turn?
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Posted 01 November 2019 - 02:20 PM

So Tatts, we're being nice now, ya? I don't AC you and you won't AC me?

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 01 November 2019 - 02:22 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 01 November 2019 - 01:35 PM, said:

View PostToasTer86, on 01 November 2019 - 07:21 AM, said:

That are some crappy picks being last is really bad in a 9 player game....


First game we played, three people banded together to keep the speaker token on their side of the table, so I spent nearly the entire game being in the last 2-3 people to choose. I definitely agree - being last in a 9 player game is BALLS.


It's rubbish, but I think it balances out, The effort people put into trading politics and being first pick doesn't seem to correspond to winning. I was picking after you in that game wasn't I, and I ended up winning.
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Posted 01 November 2019 - 02:24 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 01 November 2019 - 02:22 PM, said:

View PostGalactic Council, on 01 November 2019 - 01:35 PM, said:

View PostToasTer86, on 01 November 2019 - 07:21 AM, said:

That are some crappy picks being last is really bad in a 9 player game....


First game we played, three people banded together to keep the speaker token on their side of the table, so I spent nearly the entire game being in the last 2-3 people to choose. I definitely agree - being last in a 9 player game is BALLS.


It's rubbish, but I think it balances out, The effort people put into trading politics and being first pick doesn't seem to correspond to winning. I was picking after you in that game wasn't I, and I ended up winning.


True. And in a 9-player game it's harder for one player to impact the agenda phase as much. So the Politics card's Speaker part becoming more powerful is a nice balance to the agenda part being less useful.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 01 November 2019 - 02:27 PM

View PostD, on 01 November 2019 - 02:20 PM, said:

So Tatts, we're being nice now, ya? I don't AC you and you won't AC me?


Yes, if you would like to exchange ceasefire then that would be cool!
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Posted 01 November 2019 - 02:27 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 01 November 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostD, on 01 November 2019 - 02:20 PM, said:

So Tatts, we're being nice now, ya? I don't AC you and you won't AC me?


Yes, if you would like to exchange ceasefire then that would be cool!


Sure

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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#827 User is offline   Tattersail_ 

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Posted 01 November 2019 - 02:30 PM

View PostD, on 01 November 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 01 November 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostD, on 01 November 2019 - 02:20 PM, said:

So Tatts, we're being nice now, ya? I don't AC you and you won't AC me?


Yes, if you would like to exchange ceasefire then that would be cool!


Sure


You can add that in your post then :)
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Posted 01 November 2019 - 02:44 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 01 November 2019 - 09:02 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 31 October 2019 - 09:32 AM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 31 October 2019 - 08:43 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 31 October 2019 - 08:34 AM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 31 October 2019 - 08:30 AM, said:

Sure

That being said, ghosts, even letnev I'm open to passing the token further up under the usual circumstances for a small fee or favor, although then I would also ask for the second pick for Naalu in their name



Sure, I'm open to this. What kind of small fee or favour would you like?


Promise of a free refresh from both of you would do it


That is an acceptable deal. I'm happy to follow through.


Nom if you are passing up to letnev would you mind passing up one further?


The reason I offered it to the two of them this cheaply was to move the next round politics pick as close to me as possible and the chances are already high enough that someone anticlockwise from me will pick politics so no I wouldn't mind but I'd ask for an additional tg

And since you already owe me a refresh the alternative I had in mind for either of them in case they owed me a refresh was 3 votes for me on an agenda of my choice, so all in all 3 votes and a tg whenever we connect
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Posted 01 November 2019 - 02:47 PM

View PostToasTer86, on 01 November 2019 - 11:58 AM, said:

@Khellendros, @IH

Would you mind if I land on Piscium for 1 turn, I dont care about the carrier that I will lose I just need the 4 types for 1 round ?


Would that mean you'd be leaving Mansa unoccupied for one more round? If that's the case, I would like to borrow Fornacis (the hazardous one of the three of yours) for this round for the same objective

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Posted 01 November 2019 - 02:56 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 01 November 2019 - 02:22 PM, said:

View PostGalactic Council, on 01 November 2019 - 01:35 PM, said:

View PostToasTer86, on 01 November 2019 - 07:21 AM, said:

That are some crappy picks being last is really bad in a 9 player game....


First game we played, three people banded together to keep the speaker token on their side of the table, so I spent nearly the entire game being in the last 2-3 people to choose. I definitely agree - being last in a 9 player game is BALLS.


It's rubbish, but I think it balances out, The effort people put into trading politics and being first pick doesn't seem to correspond to winning. I was picking after you in that game wasn't I, and I ended up winning.


It's true, you were my neighbour, I had a pretty resources/influence weak slice, did not play the Hacan's trades as intelligently as I should have (i.e. costs for trading for people like any Hacan player has stated up front in every subsequent game) and Twelve ended up betraying me, so it wasn't ONLY because of the speaker token being kept on the other side of the table that I did poorly, but it certainly made it more difficult to get anything really useful done or dig myself out of the hole that I was in. Plus you were Yssaril with like 15 action cards at one point so you were able to wiggle out of pretty much anything anyone could try to do to stop you! :p
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Posted 01 November 2019 - 03:01 PM

View PostD, on 01 November 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 01 November 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostD, on 01 November 2019 - 02:20 PM, said:

So Tatts, we're being nice now, ya? I don't AC you and you won't AC me?


Yes, if you would like to exchange ceasefire then that would be cool!


Sure

So D'rek when are you planning on moving units out of Nevant? Or using Leadership?
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Posted 01 November 2019 - 03:09 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 01 November 2019 - 02:56 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 01 November 2019 - 02:22 PM, said:

View PostGalactic Council, on 01 November 2019 - 01:35 PM, said:

View PostToasTer86, on 01 November 2019 - 07:21 AM, said:

That are some crappy picks being last is really bad in a 9 player game....


First game we played, three people banded together to keep the speaker token on their side of the table, so I spent nearly the entire game being in the last 2-3 people to choose. I definitely agree - being last in a 9 player game is BALLS.


It's rubbish, but I think it balances out, The effort people put into trading politics and being first pick doesn't seem to correspond to winning. I was picking after you in that game wasn't I, and I ended up winning.


It's true, you were my neighbour, I had a pretty resources/influence weak slice, did not play the Hacan's trades as intelligently as I should have (i.e. costs for trading for people like any Hacan player has stated up front in every subsequent game) and Twelve ended up betraying me, so it wasn't ONLY because of the speaker token being kept on the other side of the table that I did poorly, but it certainly made it more difficult to get anything really useful done or dig myself out of the hole that I was in. Plus you were Yssaril with like 15 action cards at one point so you were able to wiggle out of pretty much anything anyone could try to do to stop you! :p

Excuse me! I never betrayed you. If anything you were threatening me in the later stages of the game and I had to pay you off while I was fending off half the table.
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Posted 01 November 2019 - 03:18 PM

View Posttwelve, on 01 November 2019 - 03:01 PM, said:

View PostD, on 01 November 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 01 November 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostD, on 01 November 2019 - 02:20 PM, said:

So Tatts, we're being nice now, ya? I don't AC you and you won't AC me?


Yes, if you would like to exchange ceasefire then that would be cool!


Sure

So D'rek when are you planning on moving units out of Nevant? Or using Leadership?


I am mulling over a few different plans at the moment. There's a lot of appeal to stalling as long as possible.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 01 November 2019 - 03:24 PM

View PostD, on 01 November 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 01 November 2019 - 03:01 PM, said:

View PostD, on 01 November 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 01 November 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostD, on 01 November 2019 - 02:20 PM, said:

So Tatts, we're being nice now, ya? I don't AC you and you won't AC me?


Yes, if you would like to exchange ceasefire then that would be cool!


Sure

So D'rek when are you planning on moving units out of Nevant? Or using Leadership?


I am mulling over a few different plans at the moment. There's a lot of appeal to stalling as long as possible.

Well I cant stall much and with Tatts ignoring my offer to pay to use the action card on anyone else I think I have to move in before I have much fewer infantry to replace the many I've lost and will lose.
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Posted 01 November 2019 - 03:28 PM

View Posttwelve, on 01 November 2019 - 03:24 PM, said:

View PostD, on 01 November 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 01 November 2019 - 03:01 PM, said:

View PostD, on 01 November 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 01 November 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostD, on 01 November 2019 - 02:20 PM, said:

So Tatts, we're being nice now, ya? I don't AC you and you won't AC me?


Yes, if you would like to exchange ceasefire then that would be cool!


Sure

So D'rek when are you planning on moving units out of Nevant? Or using Leadership?


I am mulling over a few different plans at the moment. There's a lot of appeal to stalling as long as possible.

Well I cant stall much and with Tatts ignoring my offer to pay to use the action card on anyone else I think I have to move in before I have much fewer infantry to replace the many I've lost and will lose.


So basically, you told me to move to Nevant and leave you Silvano as part of our previous deal... then when you cancel the deal you won't even let me use Nevant before attacking it? You realize that moving there and then moving back isn't free for me?

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 01 November 2019 - 03:32 PM

View PostToasTer86, on 01 November 2019 - 11:58 AM, said:

@Khellendros, @IH

Would you mind if I land on Piscium for 1 turn, I dont care about the carrier that I will lose I just need the 4 types for 1 round ?


Is that the 3 planet system? I think there will be a few people aiming for that system to get the 4 planet vp.
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Posted 01 November 2019 - 03:34 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 01 November 2019 - 02:44 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 01 November 2019 - 09:02 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 31 October 2019 - 09:32 AM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 31 October 2019 - 08:43 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 31 October 2019 - 08:34 AM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 31 October 2019 - 08:30 AM, said:

Sure

That being said, ghosts, even letnev I'm open to passing the token further up under the usual circumstances for a small fee or favor, although then I would also ask for the second pick for Naalu in their name



Sure, I'm open to this. What kind of small fee or favour would you like?


Promise of a free refresh from both of you would do it


That is an acceptable deal. I'm happy to follow through.


Nom if you are passing up to letnev would you mind passing up one further?


The reason I offered it to the two of them this cheaply was to move the next round politics pick as close to me as possible and the chances are already high enough that someone anticlockwise from me will pick politics so no I wouldn't mind but I'd ask for an additional tg

And since you already owe me a refresh the alternative I had in mind for either of them in case they owed me a refresh was 3 votes for me on an agenda of my choice, so all in all 3 votes and a tg whenever we connect


When are you planning on playing politics? And i just have to leave you your first pick? If so we have a deal
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Posted 01 November 2019 - 04:10 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 01 November 2019 - 03:34 PM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 01 November 2019 - 02:44 PM, said:

View PostImperial Historian, on 01 November 2019 - 09:02 AM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 31 October 2019 - 09:32 AM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 31 October 2019 - 08:43 AM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 31 October 2019 - 08:34 AM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 31 October 2019 - 08:30 AM, said:

Sure

That being said, ghosts, even letnev I'm open to passing the token further up under the usual circumstances for a small fee or favor, although then I would also ask for the second pick for Naalu in their name



Sure, I'm open to this. What kind of small fee or favour would you like?


Promise of a free refresh from both of you would do it


That is an acceptable deal. I'm happy to follow through.


Nom if you are passing up to letnev would you mind passing up one further?


The reason I offered it to the two of them this cheaply was to move the next round politics pick as close to me as possible and the chances are already high enough that someone anticlockwise from me will pick politics so no I wouldn't mind but I'd ask for an additional tg

And since you already owe me a refresh the alternative I had in mind for either of them in case they owed me a refresh was 3 votes for me on an agenda of my choice, so all in all 3 votes and a tg whenever we connect


When are you planning on playing politics? And i just have to leave you your first pick? If so we have a deal


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Posted 01 November 2019 - 04:11 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 01 November 2019 - 03:32 PM, said:

View PostToasTer86, on 01 November 2019 - 11:58 AM, said:

@Khellendros, @IH

Would you mind if I land on Piscium for 1 turn, I dont care about the carrier that I will lose I just need the 4 types for 1 round ?


Is that the 3 planet system? I think there will be a few people aiming for that system to get the 4 planet vp.


Would I mind you getting VP? Well, without some benefit to myself, yeah I would - which goes for anyone else too obviously :) So what would you propose?
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Posted 01 November 2019 - 04:22 PM

View PostD, on 01 November 2019 - 03:28 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 01 November 2019 - 03:24 PM, said:

View PostD, on 01 November 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 01 November 2019 - 03:01 PM, said:

View PostD, on 01 November 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 01 November 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

View PostD, on 01 November 2019 - 02:20 PM, said:

So Tatts, we're being nice now, ya? I don't AC you and you won't AC me?


Yes, if you would like to exchange ceasefire then that would be cool!


Sure

So D'rek when are you planning on moving units out of Nevant? Or using Leadership?


I am mulling over a few different plans at the moment. There's a lot of appeal to stalling as long as possible.

Well I cant stall much and with Tatts ignoring my offer to pay to use the action card on anyone else I think I have to move in before I have much fewer infantry to replace the many I've lost and will lose.


So basically, you told me to move to Nevant and leave you Silvano as part of our previous deal... then when you cancel the deal you won't even let me use Nevant before attacking it? You realize that moving there and then moving back isn't free for me?

To be fair the board canceled the deal when they killed my troops. Now with Tatts threatening my troops again and with our history I have to play knowing he will. I cant wait. My game is already on a knife's edge.

To compensate you I will wash your current commodities and I'll refresh them again and trade with you when I pop trade. There is also the possibility you will also gain some tech.

If you really dont want to lose your troops then help convince Tatts to use his action card on someone else other than you or me then I'll wait until you can pull out.
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