[Jazzarm]

Morgoth, on 31 October 2019 - 04:18 PM, said:

Dear mindnet, I am amendable to trading you my wormhole PN in return for you leaving Wellon alone. I will also, in the short to medium term, be able to move my ships so you'll have free access to MR.

We can work out the terms of usage though, but I don't have time to do so right now.

Same for you, toaster. Sorry, I don't have time to think about your offer right this moment. I'll get to it tomorrow.

For letting you have Wellon this round I'd need something more than a use of your wormhole generator. It has economic and strategic value, and a wormhole would only solve one of those. I'd take your Trade Agreement or Ceasefire to not activate Wellon this round, preferring the TA. And I can't promise I still won't be interested in it next round as there are quite a few stage 1's that could be revealed where Wellon might play a critical role - including but not limited to Intimidate the Council and Found Research Outposts.

However if the airspace is clear (or you let me place a wormhole) and Wellon would not directly contribute to an objective, I could let you hang out there a little bit longer. What do you say?

Regardless, I'd like to pay you 2tg on your next turn to pay 1tg to Naalu, and that's my debts settled for you guys' votes in agenda phase.

[D'rek]

Itwæs Nom, on 01 November 2019 - 10:26 PM, said:

@towhomitmayconcern

I intend to be moving to the other side of alpha wormhole and if the destination is blocked by forces that I have chances of overcoming I will take those chances

Duly noted

Khellendros, on 01 November 2019 - 11:25 PM, said:

D'rek, any chance of you playing Leadership in the next two turns? I can see how you'd be tempted to stall.

All things being equal, I almost certainly well. Haven't figured out exactly my next few turns yet, but if the secondaries line up more or less right, then yeah I'm going to stall. I'm at 0 VP, stalling Leadership to slow you all down is generally a very good move for me. Unless you want to bribe me into it, of course.

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 02 November 2019 - 09:27 AM, said:

Twelve, free refresh and commodity swap for your good neighbour?

Also are you still interested in buying access to vefut for a turn? If you want me to move my destroyer out need to know soon

I was interested in buying it but not for the price you are charging. I would go 2 trade goods a trade refresh and 2 votes if that will work.

[Itwæs Nom]

D, on 02 November 2019 - 03:39 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 01 November 2019 - 10:26 PM, said:

@towhomitmayconcern

I intend to be moving to the other side of alpha wormhole and if the destination is blocked by forces that I have chances of overcoming I will take those chances

Duly noted

Well the move is crucial to the Silvano deal of ours so didn't expect it'd be you blocking the path

[D'rek]

Itwæs Nom, on 02 November 2019 - 04:17 PM, said:

D, on 02 November 2019 - 03:39 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 01 November 2019 - 10:26 PM, said:

@towhomitmayconcern

I intend to be moving to the other side of alpha wormhole and if the destination is blocked by forces that I have chances of overcoming I will take those chances

Duly noted

Well the move is crucial to the Silvano deal of ours so didn't expect it'd be you blocking the path

I definitely won't outright block it with any sort of sizeable force, but if you're coming through with a bunch of ships I may as well toss a lone destroyer into the WH system for the 50/50ish odds that it kills a fighter and I get a tech.

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 02 November 2019 - 10:53 AM, said:

Twelve are playing trade first round? Any chance of a free refresh for promise of one in future from me?

Not playing trade early unless you agree to use your unstable planet action card on lodd eru and then I'll give you a free refesh.

[Itwæs Nom]

D, on 02 November 2019 - 04:35 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 02 November 2019 - 04:17 PM, said:

D, on 02 November 2019 - 03:39 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 01 November 2019 - 10:26 PM, said:

@towhomitmayconcern

I intend to be moving to the other side of alpha wormhole and if the destination is blocked by forces that I have chances of overcoming I will take those chances

Duly noted

Well the move is crucial to the Silvano deal of ours so didn't expect it'd be you blocking the path

I definitely won't outright block it with any sort of sizeable force, but if you're coming through with a bunch of ships I may as well toss a lone destroyer into the WH system for the 50/50ish odds that it kills a fighter and I get a tech.

I'm moving in with a dread+gf and the sacrificial cruiser, but if you wanna take your chances anyway I'm not gonna sustain the hit

[Tattersail_]

Nom which planet you moving to?

[D'rek]

Itwæs Nom, on 02 November 2019 - 06:01 PM, said:

D, on 02 November 2019 - 04:35 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 02 November 2019 - 04:17 PM, said:

D, on 02 November 2019 - 03:39 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 01 November 2019 - 10:26 PM, said:

@towhomitmayconcern

I intend to be moving to the other side of alpha wormhole and if the destination is blocked by forces that I have chances of overcoming I will take those chances

Duly noted

Well the move is crucial to the Silvano deal of ours so didn't expect it'd be you blocking the path

I definitely won't outright block it with any sort of sizeable force, but if you're coming through with a bunch of ships I may as well toss a lone destroyer into the WH system for the 50/50ish odds that it kills a fighter and I get a tech.

I'm moving in with a dread+gf and the sacrificial cruiser, but if you wanna take your chances anyway I'm not gonna sustain the hit

Mmmk, well I'm not sure the timing will actually work yet, we'll see later in the round.

[Jazzarm]

twelve said:

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Tattersail_ said:

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Twelve are playing trade first round? Any chance of a free refresh for promise of one in future from me?

Not playing trade early unless you agree to use your unstable planet action card on lodd eru and then I'll give you a free refesh.

Stop trying to make unstable planet on lodd eru happen, unstable planet on lodd eru is never gonna happen.

It's true I spearheaded the disarmament on Mecatol, but I was hardly the only one who understood it was neccessary. It got 26 votes for crying out loud! You got your 2 free points, you made some money back and you're in a great position to reinforce closer to home and lick your wounds.

You're about to get invaded by the Virus. Now is the time to make friends, not more enemies. Sardakk and Nekro are not the only ones with good action cards. How about creating some goodwill by following the example of our previous Trade masters rather than being stingy and lobbying for AC's on myself, one of the players who's lagging behind in points?

Tatts, I hope you'll back me up here. I'll pop Tech whenever you want baby, let my robots live! It would probably be a good idea to stall Tech as long as possible, as popping it means the Virus can stall Leadership even longer. And Twelve, need I remind you a leadership stall most likely means you won't get to spend Mecatol before you lose it? I ask you to reconsider who your enemies are!

This post has been edited by Jazzarm: 02 November 2019 - 08:46 PM

[Imperial Historian]

twelve, on 02 November 2019 - 03:46 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 02 November 2019 - 09:27 AM, said:

Twelve, free refresh and commodity swap for your good neighbour?

Also are you still interested in buying access to vefut for a turn? If you want me to move my destroyer out need to know soon

I was interested in buying it but not for the price you are charging. I would go 2 trade goods a trade refresh and 2 votes if that will work.

That seems like a bad deal for me, by vacating vefut for one turn i lose 2 resources, 2 votes and have to spend a CT to move out and another to reinvade. You gain 2 resources, 2 votes and a VP, and spend 2 ct.

I'm not against being a good neighbour but i think expecting more from the deal is entirely reasonable, as I'd essentially be spending CT to give a points leader an extra VP for minimal benefit to myself.

I'll accept a free refresh as part of the deal valued at 1 tg (which i presume is what you are charging), but your current offer only equates to 3tg and 2 votes, which seems great for you, and pretty awful for me.

I'll still accept a deal for 6tg or equivalent if you change your mind, and I'd count a free refresh this turn as 1tg off if you choose to make the deal in a later round. I'd count 3 votes as worth 1tg for what it's worth. 4 tg, 3 votes, a free refresh and a swap of commodities, plus guarantees of when you'd move in and out, and what you'd move in seems more reasonable and something you could easily afford with the amount of tg you are soon to have.

[Tattersail_]

Twelve I will be picking up trade soon, so free refresh for free refresh should be our deal regardless of action cards played. I'm not going to antagonize my neighbour for no reason. I struck more of a deal with Drek too, I've had to work hard to get into this position giving lots away. You've had it easy so far if we are being honest.

If you are looking for another way out then I'd be willing to pay 1 tg for a refresh but I'll be charging that to you in future too.

[twelve]

Tattersail_, on 03 November 2019 - 08:24 AM, said:

Twelve I will be picking up trade soon, so free refresh for free refresh should be our deal regardless of action cards played. I'm not going to antagonize my neighbour for no reason. I struck more of a deal with Drek too, I've had to work hard to get into this position giving lots away. You've had it easy so far if we are being honest.

If you are looking for another way out then I'd be willing to pay 1 tg for a refresh but I'll be charging that to you in future too.

The price for a refresh is to use that card on anyone else but me. I would prefer it used on Lodd Eru as that is where the troops that will kick me off Rex will likelt come from but I'll take anywhere else. As far as easy have you seen my slice? And in 2 of the three rounds it's been discussed to target me with mass troop killing actions/ agendas. No sir I have not had it easy.

[ToasTer86]

Who is up ?

[Khellendros]

ToasTer86, on 03 November 2019 - 04:34 PM, said:

Who is up ?

Morgoth - he tends to check in a lot less on weekends.

[Morgoth]

Sorry for the long wait! I've been swamped with work and lost most of the week-end.

[Morgoth]

I hope I can trust you, tatts and jazz, to keep to our agreement regarding Wellon.
I have a very nasty action card that I will use on whomever threatens my poor little planet this round.

[Morgoth]

Imperial Historian, on 02 November 2019 - 09:19 AM, said:

Actually depends a bit on morgoth... Are you after tura nora?

Ah, yes. I am.

Sorry, I figured I had to post my orders no matter. I couldn't keep up the game any further.

[Morgoth]

Jazzarm, on 02 November 2019 - 11:45 AM, said:

Morgoth, on 31 October 2019 - 04:18 PM, said:

Dear mindnet, I am amendable to trading you my wormhole PN in return for you leaving Wellon alone. I will also, in the short to medium term, be able to move my ships so you'll have free access to MR.

We can work out the terms of usage though, but I don't have time to do so right now.

Same for you, toaster. Sorry, I don't have time to think about your offer right this moment. I'll get to it tomorrow.

For letting you have Wellon this round I'd need something more than a use of your wormhole generator. It has economic and strategic value, and a wormhole would only solve one of those. I'd take your Trade Agreement or Ceasefire to not activate Wellon this round, preferring the TA. And I can't promise I still won't be interested in it next round as there are quite a few stage 1's that could be revealed where Wellon might play a critical role - including but not limited to Intimidate the Council and Found Research Outposts.

However if the airspace is clear (or you let me place a wormhole) and Wellon would not directly contribute to an objective, I could let you hang out there a little bit longer. What do you say?

Regardless, I'd like to pay you 2tg on your next turn to pay 1tg to Naalu, and that's my debts settled for you guys' votes in agenda phase.

I will leave the airspace clear as you see, and offer you my PN once Tatts is done with it.

I have no long term needs for Wellon. I need it this round, and will be very annoyed with whomever sabotages that. Later on you can have it free of charge as a token of good will.

[Tattersail_]

Morgoth, on 04 November 2019 - 10:38 AM, said:

I hope I can trust you, tatts and jazz, to keep to our agreement regarding Wellon.
I have a very nasty action card that I will use on whomever threatens my poor little planet this round.

I am trustworthy