[Imperial Historian]

twelve, on 31 October 2019 - 03:00 PM, said:

IH how much for borrowing your hazardous planet? I'm torn on 3 choices and want to know what you are thinking in terms of fair compensation before I pick

Well the cost to me of vacating and reoccupying the planet would be 2CT ie ~6TG, but I place myself at additional risk as you are right next to my homeworld

You'd gain a VP, and could exhaust vefut for 2 resources when you leave.

I'd want some guarantees that you wouldn't be building moving into my homeworld as well, and you wouldn't be there permanently.

It depends really.. how long do you want to occupy if for? Presumably you are going to try for the 6 planets objective?

A price of the order of 6TG seems fair to me, not necessarily all in TG, I'm sure there are other things you could give me which I'd value.

[Tattersail_]

twelve, on 31 October 2019 - 03:07 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 31 October 2019 - 03:03 PM, said:

D'rek what would you do if Mehar Xull had no infantry on it? That would bring you to 4 hazardousplanets.

She on good terms with me. I doubt your offer to take out my troops will keep her off your back.

No but my flagship and 2 dreads with lovely fighters will. Your ships are flimsy and easy picking for the virus.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 31 October 2019 - 03:03 PM, said:

D'rek what would you do if Mehar Xull had no infantry on it? That would bring you to 4 hazardousplanets.

Well, since my deal with Twelve to get tech off him in exchange for using Silvano has fallen through, and I do really want NM/ST/cruiser 2... yeah I guess I'd go for it.

[Tattersail_]

D, on 31 October 2019 - 03:08 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 31 October 2019 - 03:03 PM, said:

D'rek what would you do if Mehar Xull had no infantry on it? That would bring you to 4 hazardousplanets.

Well, since my deal with Twelve to get tech off him in exchange for using Silvano has fallen through, and I do really want NM/ST/cruiser 2... yeah I guess I'd go for it.

I have an action card that I will play that will target that planet destroying infantry so it'll be more manageable. I can do that on my second turn.

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 31 October 2019 - 03:14 PM, said:

D, on 31 October 2019 - 03:08 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 31 October 2019 - 03:03 PM, said:

D'rek what would you do if Mehar Xull had no infantry on it? That would bring you to 4 hazardousplanets.

Well, since my deal with Twelve to get tech off him in exchange for using Silvano has fallen through, and I do really want NM/ST/cruiser 2... yeah I guess I'd go for it.

I have an action card that I will play that will target that planet destroying infantry so it'll be more manageable. I can do that on my second turn.

Ya, as soon as you asked I figured you had Unstable Planet.

[twelve]

Imperial Historian, on 31 October 2019 - 03:08 PM, said:

twelve, on 31 October 2019 - 03:00 PM, said:

IH how much for borrowing your hazardous planet? I'm torn on 3 choices and want to know what you are thinking in terms of fair compensation before I pick

Well the cost to me of vacating and reoccupying the planet would be 2CT ie ~6TG, but I place myself at additional risk as you are right next to my homeworld

You'd gain a VP, and could exhaust vefut for 2 resources when you leave.

I'd want some guarantees that you wouldn't be building moving into my homeworld as well, and you wouldn't be there permanently.

It depends really.. how long do you want to occupy if for? Presumably you are going to try for the 6 planets objective?

A price of the order of 6TG seems fair to me, not necessarily all in TG, I'm sure there are other things you could give me which I'd value.

Well considering its completely empty right now you would only need to reoccupy it once I vacate so that drops the cost to 1 CT. If I grab imperial and D'rek is also accommodating it's possible you could move back in with a carrier fighter and Infantry this round. I'd give back the support for the throne and you wont lose production for that planet at all. You wouldnt really be out much as you would already have plans to reinforce the planet. I'd figure that should be worth 2 trade goods 3 tops. If D'rek is agreeable would this be acceptable?

[twelve]

Well never mind then. Looks like she isn't agreeable.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 31 October 2019 - 03:19 PM, said:

Well never mind then. Looks like she isn't agreeable.

I don't even know what I'm not agreeableing to? You and IH negotiating that planet way over there seems like it has nothing to do with me...?

[Imperial Historian]

twelve, on 31 October 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 31 October 2019 - 03:08 PM, said:

twelve, on 31 October 2019 - 03:00 PM, said:

IH how much for borrowing your hazardous planet? I'm torn on 3 choices and want to know what you are thinking in terms of fair compensation before I pick

Well the cost to me of vacating and reoccupying the planet would be 2CT ie ~6TG, but I place myself at additional risk as you are right next to my homeworld

You'd gain a VP, and could exhaust vefut for 2 resources when you leave.

I'd want some guarantees that you wouldn't be building moving into my homeworld as well, and you wouldn't be there permanently.

It depends really.. how long do you want to occupy if for? Presumably you are going to try for the 6 planets objective?

A price of the order of 6TG seems fair to me, not necessarily all in TG, I'm sure there are other things you could give me which I'd value.

Well considering its completely empty right now you would only need to reoccupy it once I vacate so that drops the cost to 1 CT. If I grab imperial and D'rek is also accommodating it's possible you could move back in with a carrier fighter and Infantry this round. I'd give back the support for the throne and you wont lose production for that planet at all. You wouldnt really be out much as you would already have plans to reinforce the planet. I'd figure that should be worth 2 trade goods 3 tops. If D'rek is agreeable would this be acceptable?

There is a destroyer on it i believe, but looks like tatts the master strategist has set the virus on you.

[Tattersail_]

Hey, don't be mean IH, I'm no master strategist.

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 31 October 2019 - 03:28 PM, said:

Hey, don't be mean IH, I'm no master strategist.

I'm not it's a good move you divert d'rek, logistics and prescience let's you build and move reinforcements from evera back to tau. I didn't see it coming.

[twelve]

D, on 31 October 2019 - 03:21 PM, said:

twelve, on 31 October 2019 - 03:19 PM, said:

Well never mind then. Looks like she isn't agreeable.

I don't even know what I'm not agreeableing to? You and IH negotiating that planet way over there seems like it has nothing to do with me...?

I mentioned going for Nevant as well and you would retreat to silvano. Now you are okay with Tatts wiping out my infantry so you can take one of the few planets I do control.

[Tattersail_]

Twelve it is your strategy pick if you didn't know

[Imperial Historian]

Imperial Historian, on 31 October 2019 - 03:26 PM, said:

twelve, on 31 October 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 31 October 2019 - 03:08 PM, said:

twelve, on 31 October 2019 - 03:00 PM, said:

IH how much for borrowing your hazardous planet? I'm torn on 3 choices and want to know what you are thinking in terms of fair compensation before I pick

Well the cost to me of vacating and reoccupying the planet would be 2CT ie ~6TG, but I place myself at additional risk as you are right next to my homeworld

You'd gain a VP, and could exhaust vefut for 2 resources when you leave.

I'd want some guarantees that you wouldn't be building moving into my homeworld as well, and you wouldn't be there permanently.

It depends really.. how long do you want to occupy if for? Presumably you are going to try for the 6 planets objective?

A price of the order of 6TG seems fair to me, not necessarily all in TG, I'm sure there are other things you could give me which I'd value.

Well considering its completely empty right now you would only need to reoccupy it once I vacate so that drops the cost to 1 CT. If I grab imperial and D'rek is also accommodating it's possible you could move back in with a carrier fighter and Infantry this round. I'd give back the support for the throne and you wont lose production for that planet at all. You wouldnt really be out much as you would already have plans to reinforce the planet. I'd figure that should be worth 2 trade goods 3 tops. If D'rek is agreeable would this be acceptable?

There is a destroyer on it i believe, but looks like tatts the master strategist has set the virus on you.

And re trade goods I think our valuation is a bit different, I'd accept votes etc to cover some of the cost, but i don't think 6 tg equivalent is unreasonable.

[D'rek]

twelve, on 31 October 2019 - 03:43 PM, said:

D, on 31 October 2019 - 03:21 PM, said:

twelve, on 31 October 2019 - 03:19 PM, said:

Well never mind then. Looks like she isn't agreeable.

I don't even know what I'm not agreeableing to? You and IH negotiating that planet way over there seems like it has nothing to do with me...?

I mentioned going for Nevant as well and you would retreat to silvano. Now you are okay with Tatts wiping out my infantry so you can take one of the few planets I do control.

I thought we were talking about you flying more ships with infantry to MR and going through Nevant airspace, which yes I was willing to get out of the way of. If Tatts wants to play a hostile AC on you rather than me, of course I'm going to rather it not be on me! Our planned exchange from the start of giving you Silvano and getting some tech out of it has been called off, and our negotiations/exchanges have so far been all based around that.

I'm not looking to antagonize you, but it does seem like with the Silvano-tech deal expired our relationship is now back to its neutral starting point.

[Imperial Historian]

Question in a battle with neckro if i deliberately blew up a ship would neckro get tech?

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 31 October 2019 - 03:55 PM, said:

Question in a battle with neckro if i deliberately blew up a ship would neckro get tech?

"Once per combat, after 1 of your opponent's units is destroyed, you may gain 1 technology that is owned by that player."

Doesn't matter how the unit is destroyed.

[Tattersail_]

Same with me and my upgraded dreads, does it matter who does the destroying in both cases?

[Tattersail_]

Fair enough, but you only get 1 tech per combat? Doesn't matter if 3 ships were destroyed?

[D'rek]

Tattersail_, on 31 October 2019 - 03:59 PM, said:

Fair enough, but you only get 1 tech per combat? Doesn't matter if 3 ships were destroyed?

Correct, the ability can only be used once per combat. The absolute most tech I could get in one tactical action would be 4, if and only if it happened in a system with 3 planets - once for the space combat and once for each of the three ground combats.

Furthermore, any unit destruction outside of the combat doesn't count. Destroying PDS/Space docks on an undefended planet is not part of combat. PDS fire is not part of combat. Bombardment is not part of combat.