[Abyss]

QuickTidal, on 19 October 2021 - 06:53 PM, said:

Abyss, on 19 October 2021 - 06:37 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 19 October 2021 - 05:03 PM, said:

Tiste Simeon, on 19 October 2021 - 04:59 PM, said:

There's a Flash movie coming? ...

..

They are using this movie to sort of reset the DC Cinematic Universe.

Supposedly. That's been rumoured and vocally prayed for by fans who repeat it as fact, but never actually confirmed afaik.

Not that the DC movieverse wouldn't benefit from a hard kick in the reset, but no one with an actual say has said.

I mean, there's no real other reason to START the Flash movies on FLASHPOINT unless you want to deliberately muck with the existing universe.

DC Warner's lack of planning is the reason.

Don't forget, we were supposed to get a FLASH movie ages ago, before JL even. Ezra Miller was announced as The Flash the day the tv series premiered (dick move by DC).Then it got repeatedly bumped to development hell but they left the dream/time travel thing in the JL movie. It wasn't left there to serve as the basis for the Flash movie, it was left as a hook for the next JL movie (under the Snyder plan anyways).

Fast fwd and the DC Warner machine wants to do... something... they aren't sure what... to get their hands on more comic movie money, so they jump on FLASH as a way to do... something. But 'something' could be reeeeeeeeeally minimal, a nod to Barry fucking w the timelines in the after credits (yay we get the 'DAMMIT BARRY' meme back!). The next few DC movies... THE BATMAN, AQUAMAN AND THE SOMETHING DEEP SOMETHING don't need any reboots to work.

They might call it FLASHPOINT but i have doubts we're going to get Thomas Wayne Batman and the Amazon v Atlantis War.

[QuickTidal]

Abyss, on 19 October 2021 - 07:35 PM, said:

They might call it FLASHPOINT but i have doubts we're going to get Thomas Wayne Batman and the Amazon v Atlantis War.

Oh no, it won't be Thomas Wayne at all. It's just Keaton's Bruce from the Burtonverse, and my assumption is that the Sasha Calle Supergirl (Cir-El) is there because in the Burton-verse Superman was killed, and Supergirl is their superbeing?

And yeah no Amazon VS Atlantis war.

But it's still Flashpoint where Barry needs a Batman's help. And I know Keaton signed on for more than one film.

There's also the OTHER Miller Flash in the scene in the clip, so we're talking about the Snyderverse, and the Burtonverse and perhaps even another verse?

[Abyss]

QuickTidal, on 19 October 2021 - 07:56 PM, said:

Abyss, on 19 October 2021 - 07:35 PM, said:

They might call it FLASHPOINT but i have doubts we're going to get Thomas Wayne Batman and the Amazon v Atlantis War.

Oh no, it won't be Thomas Wayne at all. It's just Keaton's Bruce from the Burtonverse, and my assumption is that the Sasha Calle Supergirl (Cir-El) is there because in the Burton-verse Superman was killed, and Supergirl is their superbeing?

And yeah no Amazon VS Atlantis war.

But it's still Flashpoint where Barry needs a Batman's help. And I know Keaton signed on for more than one film.

There's also the OTHER Miller Flash in the scene in the clip, so we're talking about the Snyderverse, and the Burtonverse and perhaps even another verse?

To be clear, i'm all for it, i love a good alterverse story and unlike the masses i don't need six prior movies, a GN collection, and a novel to explain things.
....tho i probably did see the six movies own the GN and read the book...

[Malankazooie]

New trailer is pretty slick. Get a better look a the Riddler. I wonder how audiences will respond to emo Bruce Wayne and the look they went with for the Riddler?

[Cause]

Catwomen! I don’t know why, maybe all the bad movies but I’m not looking forward to her character.

[Tsundoku]

The "look" is pretty good, although I'm not so sure about emo Batman.

But is the trailer giving away too much?

[polishgenius]

Well, it's worth it. The final quarter or so drops a bit, it's just too different in tone to what was there before, but up till then: visuals, atmosphere, music all on point, it's great to see Batman being a detective properly for once, and Zoe Kravitz is excellent as Catwoman, with a better-written relationship between them than TDKR.

[Imperial Historian]

Oh man a double stamp of approval. Now I have to go see it.

[QuickTidal]

polishgenius, on 05 March 2022 - 10:00 AM, said:

Well, it's worth it. The final quarter or so drops a bit, it's just too different in tone to what was there before, but up till then: visuals, atmosphere, music all on point, it's great to see Batman being a detective properly for once, and Zoe Kravitz is excellent as Catwoman, with a better-written relationship between them than TDKR.

Agreed. Loved it. And I agree on the Bat and Cat relationship being very well done and Pattison and Kravitz sell ii well, and I agree on Kravitz stellar catwoman, she’s REALLYGOOD.

Tell me you love the Batman Slow Walk Out Of Darkness they did a few times like I did?

Also, I love that we don’t get the triumphant part of Giaccino’s Batman theme till late in the movie

Spoiler

after Bruce learns he can’t JUST be Vengeance, and needs to also be Hope. It’s such a rewarding moment,

DOUBLE STAMP BABY!

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 05 March 2022 - 01:06 PM

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

QuickTidal, on 19 October 2021 - 06:53 PM, said:

Abyss, on 19 October 2021 - 06:37 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 19 October 2021 - 05:03 PM, said:

Tiste Simeon, on 19 October 2021 - 04:59 PM, said:

There's a Flash movie coming? ...

..

They are using this movie to sort of reset the DC Cinematic Universe.

Supposedly. That's been rumoured and vocally prayed for by fans who repeat it as fact, but never actually confirmed afaik.

Not that the DC movieverse wouldn't benefit from a hard kick in the reset, but no one with an actual say has said.

I mean, there's no real other reason to START the Flash movies on FLASHPOINT unless you want to deliberately muck with the existing universe.

... or they think including Batman etc. will help it sell better. Granted, there was a popular Flash tv show for a while, so perhaps the Flash is less obscure and more popular than I'd guess. May still be chasing after that Avengers ensemble money....

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

[Malankazooie]

So, I guess Gotham is supposed to be really gross. But does that mean it's "gritty?'

[polishgenius]

QuickTidal, on 05 March 2022 - 12:45 PM, said:

Tell me you love the Batman Slow Walk Out Of Darkness they did a few times like I did?

STOMP STOMP STOMP

Tell you what I really loved though: that Batmobile intro.

[Cause]

Movie has and than blasts through about 4 endings and becomes 2h55 min as a result.

[Imperial Historian]

QuickTidal, on 05 March 2022 - 12:45 PM, said:

polishgenius, on 05 March 2022 - 10:00 AM, said:

Well, it's worth it. The final quarter or so drops a bit, it's just too different in tone to what was there before, but up till then: visuals, atmosphere, music all on point, it's great to see Batman being a detective properly for once, and Zoe Kravitz is excellent as Catwoman, with a better-written relationship between them than TDKR.

Agreed. Loved it. And I agree on the Bat and Cat relationship being very well done and Pattison and Kravitz sell ii well, and I agree on Kravitz stellar catwoman, she’s REALLYGOOD.

Tell me you love the Batman Slow Walk Out Of Darkness they did a few times like I did?

Also, I love that we don’t get the triumphant part of Giaccino’s Batman theme till late in the movie

Spoiler

after Bruce learns he can’t JUST be Vengeance, and needs to also be Hope. It’s such a rewarding moment,

DOUBLE STAMP BABY!

I thought it was great too.

I agree with cause though my one criticism of the film is the last 10-15 minutes with so many different endings (or return of the king syndrome) which undercut the pace of the rest of the film. The jailhouse scene for example would have worked much better as a post credits sequence.

[stone monkey]

I enjoyed it well enough. It has a couple of very striking sequences. However, its painfully obvious ambitions towards being a deconstruction/reconstruction of Batman are not followed through to anywhere near the extent they should have been. It's also at least half an hour too long.

[blackzoid]

Well i gave it 2 showings to be fair to it. Im leaning towards only 5-6/10. I guess im not a big fan which is really disappointing. Its only ok. Ah well.

[Aptorian]

The deleted/unincluded scene from The Batman featuring the joker has been released.



I'm actually really fond of this clip.

I can see why the removed it, it's not really necessary and the voices are pretty muddled, but it's such a different take on the on-screen joker.

Everything is sort of out of focus. Hinting at the Joker's appearance but not giving a clear picture. Actually disfigured, sort of diseased, wrong looking. Just really uncomfortable looking to be in the presence of. But not an overpowering performance either. He's unassuming in a sense, younger and relaxed in the presence of The Batman. There's an intimacy between the two characters. I really like it.

This post has been edited by Aptorian: 24 March 2022 - 07:16 PM

[Tiste Simeon]

Finally saw this from. Utterly loved it. Was not expecting R Patz to be so good. I dunno if this is part of a planned new thing or if this Batman is replacing the Affleck one in the DCCU, or if it's just a non canon one off but it has to rank up there with the best. I never thought I'd rate one as highly as the Nolan trilogy but this is probably on a par

[Abyss]

Tiste Simeon, on 14 April 2023 - 08:49 PM, said:

Finally saw this from. Utterly loved it. Was not expecting R Patz to be so good. I dunno if this is part of a planned new thing or if this Batman is replacing the Affleck one in the DCCU, or if it's just a non canon one off but it has to rank up there with the best. I never thought I'd rate one as highly as the Nolan trilogy but this is probably on a par

Just watched this, have to agree, it was far better than i was expecting and very entertaining.