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#2901 User is offline   Tattersail_ 

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 02:31 PM

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View Posttwelve, on 21 March 2019 - 02:25 PM, said:

That fiasco with the carrier and graviton lasars bs was the turning point definitely for me. I'd be in a really good spot if my gamble paid off. Not sure I agree with the starting tech. It was more Gnaw using Tech before I could afford it round 1 that was the problem so I couldn't get gravity Drive early.

I can see a path to set Morgoth way back and give someone else a shot at the win but it would require Gnaw and Blend and IH and D'rek to stop fighting each other and turn on Morgoth. That space port near Rex needs to go as well. Anyone have any suggestions?


If you can get Gnaw to agree to peace with me, you'd be some kind of magician.


Then unexpected action and move into quen rarr whatever.
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 02:45 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 21 March 2019 - 02:31 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 21 March 2019 - 02:26 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 21 March 2019 - 02:25 PM, said:

That fiasco with the carrier and graviton lasars bs was the turning point definitely for me. I'd be in a really good spot if my gamble paid off. Not sure I agree with the starting tech. It was more Gnaw using Tech before I could afford it round 1 that was the problem so I couldn't get gravity Drive early.

I can see a path to set Morgoth way back and give someone else a shot at the win but it would require Gnaw and Blend and IH and D'rek to stop fighting each other and turn on Morgoth. That space port near Rex needs to go as well. Anyone have any suggestions?


If you can get Gnaw to agree to peace with me, you'd be some kind of magician.


Then unexpected action and move into quen rarr whatever.


That would be a good way for me to lose my War Sun.
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 04:11 PM

Morgoth would be easy for IH and/or Gnaw to take down. His territory is a long snake exposed on all sides and he has very few CTs, with not enough influence to buy many more, meaning even if he builds a war sun he can be easily outmaneuvered through multiple small attacks. This has been true all game, mind you. But IH/Gnaw won't do it, and they probably won't express any remorse or learning when they lose, either.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 04:43 PM

Gnaw since you are just giving away your trade pn to Morgoth for reparations for vetoing his law. If you give it to me instead I'll have the resources to at least have a coin flips chance of beating his fleet in Rex next turn.
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 04:51 PM

I made my turn on a bathroom break from sleep. Didn’t notice that Morgoth researched war suns. Which triggers the agreement Blend and I have on his racial. Seeing as it’s still my turn I changed my action.
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 04:54 PM

View PostGnaw, on 21 March 2019 - 04:51 PM, said:

I made my turn on a bathroom break from sleep. Didn't notice that Morgoth researched war suns. Which triggers the agreement Blend and I have on his racial. Seeing as it's still my turn I changed my action.


You can't change your action like that Gnaw. You can still do the component action next turn but you've already played leadership. Not that it matters to me.
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 04:54 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 21 March 2019 - 07:42 AM, said:

Ah, Gnaw, we had a trade deal did we not. 1 tg this round and your trade PN the next, yes?


first, trade hasn't been played. second, that's as my offer to repay you for repealing that law, which I haven't done yet.
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 05:06 PM

View PostGnaw, on 21 March 2019 - 04:54 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 21 March 2019 - 07:42 AM, said:

Ah, Gnaw, we had a trade deal did we not. 1 tg this round and your trade PN the next, yes?


first, trade hasn't been played. second, that's as my offer to repay you for repealing that law, which I haven't done yet.

And if you do give it to him you are essentially giving him the game though he is likely going to win anyway.
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 05:17 PM

Hmm, that's a rather drastic change of action.
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 05:19 PM

View PostGalactic Council, on 21 March 2019 - 05:17 PM, said:

Hmm, that's a rather drastic change of action.


Up to you. That's why I asked. And save the original.


I was trying to keep the game going over a piss break. I’m stuck between two people 8 hours ahead of me.

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 05:21 PM

View PostGnaw, on 20 March 2019 - 07:56 PM, said:

Twelve, go ahead and play tech if you feel like it. I’m going to use Leadership next turn.


I mean, this clearly influenced Twelve's action. On the other hand, it's not like you had a binding agreement to play Leadership. Though I do wish you wouldn't rush your posts before reading through the thread properly.
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 05:21 PM

View PostGnaw, on 21 March 2019 - 05:19 PM, said:

View PostGalactic Council, on 21 March 2019 - 05:17 PM, said:

Hmm, that's a rather drastic change of action.


Up to you. That's why I asked. And save the original.


I was trying to keep the game going over a piss break. I’m stuck between two people 8 hours ahead of me.


In which case there's no need to rush is there :p
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 05:22 PM

Anyway, I'll allow the change.
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 06:28 PM

View PostTapper, on 21 March 2019 - 01:57 PM, said:

Gnaw doesn't do much wrong, but both this game and last he also doesn't seem to play for victory but for territory.


IMO my game started going off the rails when I let myself be talked into kicking D'rek off of Rex when it wasn't in my plan and I gained nothing from it. Blend and I will never agree on what caused our rift so that's a dead horse that I'm tired of beating. In retrospect, I should have traded my antivirus to D'rek early on when she was willing to pay good value for it.

As for territory: Herrah and Mansa have served their purpose for me so I'm more than willing to let them go. The loss of the forward base on Gwynan sucks but I did gain a 4 resource planet to replace it so it's not all bad.
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 06:41 PM

4 days to complete one turn. That blows.
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 07:06 PM

View PostGnaw, on 21 March 2019 - 06:28 PM, said:

Blend and I will never agree on what caused our rift so that's a dead horse that I'm tired of beating.


I mean, you're trying to take no responsibility for it, but you're the one that attacked MY homeworld before I did anything to you besides call you a dickhole for doing something aggressive (aka moving the amount of ships you moved to Mansa) - when we were negotiating the swap of Lodd/Mansa, you made it clear that if I brought anything like a dread or war sun to take Lodd you'd consider it an act of war - but I was supposed to be okay with you doing what you did? You keep denying that I made any offers to you in exchange for keeping Lodd for one extra round, but I very much did - just because you didn't like the offer, doesn't mean that I didn't make an offer, you can't just deny something because it's inconvenient for the holier than thou image you're trying to project.
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 08:29 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 21 March 2019 - 02:13 PM, said:

Last minute catching up for math test which is in 3 hours so will get to my turn afterwards


"Surely they won't put this kinda shit into the test will they"

@Tapper, when you play trade I'd like to do the 3:2 trade if the offer still stands

@Blend, sigh, thought you were moving the cruiser too, should have said explicitly obviously, kinda hate all the wordplay possibilities with these deals, and it has barely even touched me
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 08:53 PM

View PostItwęs Nom, on 21 March 2019 - 08:29 PM, said:

View PostItwęs Nom, on 21 March 2019 - 02:13 PM, said:

Last minute catching up for math test which is in 3 hours so will get to my turn afterwards


"Surely they won't put this kinda shit into the test will they"

@Tapper, when you play trade I'd like to do the 3:2 trade if the offer still stands

@Blend, sigh, thought you were moving the cruiser too, should have said explicitly obviously, kinda hate all the wordplay possibilities with these deals, and it has barely even touched me


If it makes you feel better, I'll be moving it down to Quann or Dal Bootha/Xxehan before the end of the round. I just had to be careful not to let my fleet size go higher than 2 so that I wouldn't have to destroy a ship when Gnaw used my PN.
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 08:59 PM

IH's turn. I've got a semi provisional in.
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Posted 21 March 2019 - 09:15 PM

aight
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