[Itwæs Nom]

@Gnaw

If you managed to take Blend's hw in the future somehow, I'll compensate you with my sftt and let you keep it as the rightful owner

[Itwæs Nom]

Blend, on 14 March 2019 - 05:03 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 14 March 2019 - 04:57 PM, said:

You do have a game. It was your mostly your choice that led you to this situation. Look at it from Nom's point of view, he's had little to no opportunity to score VP's or play a game because you decided to go in his direction early and be the antagonist. You threatened to take his home world from him and end his game.

I certainly did NOT threaten to take Nestphar. Drek kept talking about how I should, or I could. But I told Nom from the start that if he went Tapper's way I'd leave Nestphar alone.

Sorry I'm not as naive as you I guess?

[Gnaw]

Blend, on 14 March 2019 - 05:02 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 14 March 2019 - 04:57 PM, said:

Blend, on 14 March 2019 - 04:36 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 14 March 2019 - 04:35 PM, said:

I think you may not be helping yourself blend.

However as your probable new neighbor I come offering warm promises of mentak friendship and taxation.

It's not like I have a fucking game anymore, so who cares? I'll be kingmaking from here on out.

You do have a game. It was your mostly your choice that led you to this situation. Look at it from Nom's point of view, he's had little to no opportunity to score VP's or play a game because you decided to go in his direction early and be the antagonist. You threatened to take his home world from him and end his game.

From my point of view I'm in a similar situation to Nom as my neighbour decided to be the aggressor to me all game. Hindering my chances of winning massively, at a cost to their own chances I think.

Gnaw just said he is going to move back to Everra and from my perspective he generally keeps his word. Your aggression towards him (verbally) may just provoke him to become an aggressor towards you. Has he broken any deal that you've made this game? I don't think so. Iirc you wanted to change a deal that has already been struck.

As regards to your ships, why did you only move the War Sun? You had a larger enough fleet that you could have moved it all together if you wanted.

When Gnaw uses my PN, my fleet pool will go down to 2. There are 2 dreads in M/Z, a War Sun and a Cruiser in the Supernova. Can't have any more ships than that anywhere or I'll end up having to destroy them.

By the time I can dig myself out of this hole, everyone's going to be 2-4 points ahead of me. I can make up a bit of that lead, but I doubt I can make it all up, so yeah, I'm at a point now where I'll likely just be kingmaking to the end of the game.

Allies want to be dicks, fine, I can be a dick too and ruin their game in retaliation. Tit for tat as far as I'm concerned.

Our agreement was for me to get Mansa this round so I could score the PO. I really would prefer to move those troops and fighters to Everra. Seeing as how there's a dread in the way now, I needed to bring them with me to Mansa. The reason I assimilated antimass deflectors from Morgoth was so I could move through that asteroid field. Another chance to grab sarween tools bypassed due to higher priority tech.

However, your threats have me wondering why I should reinforce that speed bump when there are juicier planets available. And the more I look at the map, the more I realize that Nom and I can reduce you to the war sun and 0 planets by turn 3. Which gives you nothing left to lose. And someone with nothing to lose is very dangerous.

[Imperial Historian]

Itwæs Nom, on 14 March 2019 - 05:18 PM, said:

@Gnaw

If you managed to take Blend's hw in the future somehow, I'll compensate you with my sftt and let you keep it as the rightful owner

Is that offer open to anyone?

[Blend]

Itwæs Nom, on 14 March 2019 - 05:19 PM, said:

Blend, on 14 March 2019 - 05:03 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 14 March 2019 - 04:57 PM, said:

You do have a game. It was your mostly your choice that led you to this situation. Look at it from Nom's point of view, he's had little to no opportunity to score VP's or play a game because you decided to go in his direction early and be the antagonist. You threatened to take his home world from him and end his game.

I certainly did NOT threaten to take Nestphar. Drek kept talking about how I should, or I could. But I told Nom from the start that if he went Tapper's way I'd leave Nestphar alone.

Sorry I'm not as naive as you I guess?

Thing is I actually meant it - had you gone towards Tapper's systems as I had originally suggested I would never have touched Nestphar - I certainly thought about it, I certainly did the math to see if I could even manage it at any given point, but it was never really a viable option for me, and honestly, I had no desire to kick you out of the game, just to take M/Z so that I actually had some resources to work with. Hell, even with the eight or so planets I had, you still had almost the same amount of total resources as me with your 2. It's not like I completely crippled you, I just made it so that I wasn't completely crippled.

[Galactic Council]

Well can I just say you're both roleplaying the fiery Muaat and the dispassionate Nekro excellently.

[Blend]

Gnaw, on 14 March 2019 - 05:20 PM, said:

Our agreement was for me to get Mansa this round so I could score the PO. I really would prefer to move those troops and fighters to Everra. Seeing as how there's a dread in the way now, I needed to bring them with me to Mansa. The reason I assimilated antimass deflectors from Morgoth was so I could move through that asteroid field. Another chance to grab sarween tools bypassed due to higher priority tech.

However, your threats have me wondering why I should reinforce that speed bump when there are juicier planets available. And the more I look at the map, the more I realize that Nom and I can reduce you to the war sun and 0 planets by turn 3. Which gives you nothing left to lose. And someone with nothing to lose is very dangerous.

You're right, I did say you could take Mansa. I didn't say you could bring a fleet there that would threaten my homeworld. Don't try to tell me that this isn't anything besides "trying to teach me a lesson." You can take your lesson and shove it up your ass - your intentions are clear, so fuck our alliance, you've done nothing to make me want to keep it. You've already backed me into a corner - keep going, I promise you won't like it.

[Gnaw]

Blend, on 13 March 2019 - 10:02 PM, said:

I am now at the point of having to seriously consider taking Lodd Eru back by force next round just to fuck you, cause if I dont there is no way I can beat you.

We could have had a peaceful, mutually helpful alliance, but if it's only one-sided what is the point for me to keep helping you?

Blend, you started this by that threat. Which seems to indicate to me that what you really wanted all along was to keep Lodd.
This has escalated to the tipping point. I can move them to Everra next round (no sooner than turn 3) or I can use them to fuck you. My preference is the former.

I am not going to use your racial this round. I'm holding it hostage for your continued good behaviour. And, before you get all pissy about that: I never said I'd use it and you never made its use part of the agreement. Further, I actually said very early on that if I got it there was a damn good chance I'd never use it.

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 14 March 2019 - 05:17 PM, said:

I'm excited

Chaos is a ladder

[Blend]

Gnaw, on 14 March 2019 - 05:34 PM, said:

Blend, on 13 March 2019 - 10:02 PM, said:

I am now at the point of having to seriously consider taking Lodd Eru back by force next round just to fuck you, cause if I dont there is no way I can beat you.

We could have had a peaceful, mutually helpful alliance, but if it's only one-sided what is the point for me to keep helping you?

Blend, you started this by that threat. Which seems to indicate to me that what you really wanted all along was to keep Lodd.
This has escalated to the tipping point. I can move them to Everra next round (no sooner than turn 3) or I can use them to fuck you. My preference is the former.

I am not going to use your racial this round. I'm holding it hostage for your continued good behaviour. And, before you get all pissy about that: I never said I'd use it and you never made its use part of the agreement. Further, I actually said very early on that if I got it there was a damn good chance I'd never use it.

Until you use my PN I am 100% doing everything I can to ensure you dont win the game.

[Gnaw]

Morgoth, what does it take to ensure your continued good will through the next round at least?

IH, how strong is your interest in Quann?

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 14 March 2019 - 05:51 PM

[Imperial Historian]

Gnaw, on 14 March 2019 - 05:50 PM, said:

Morgoth, what does it take to ensure your continued good will through the next round at least?

IH, how strong is your interest in Quann?

I'm not that bothered about it right now. Things might change. It's main value to me is for being next to people with lots of trade goods.

[Gnaw]

Itwæs Nom, on 14 March 2019 - 05:18 PM, said:

@Gnaw

If you managed to take Blend's hw in the future somehow, I'll compensate you with my sftt and let you keep it as the rightful owner

I'm going to use QDH to grab Leadership. Was always going to do that for the CTs. Now the initiative will be beneficial as well. Turn 1 I take Muaat, turn 2 I can take Dal Bootha/Xxehan as long as I'm not pressured elsewhere.

If you take a low initiative car, turn 1 you take Mellon/Zhobat. That will leave him with no docks to build with.

If IH takes Quann, which he's stated he wants, then Blend will be down to Silvano and the War Sun and cruiser in the fire ball.

[Blend]

Gnaw, on 14 March 2019 - 05:59 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 14 March 2019 - 05:18 PM, said:

@Gnaw

If you managed to take Blend's hw in the future somehow, I'll compensate you with my sftt and let you keep it as the rightful owner

I'm going to use QDH to grab Leadership. Was always going to do that for the CTs. Now the initiative will be beneficial as well. Turn 1 I take Muaat, turn 2 I can take Dal Bootha/Xxehan as long as I'm not pressured elsewhere.

If you take a low initiative car, turn 1 you take Mellon/Zhobat. That will leave him with no docks to build with.

If IH takes Quann, which he's stated he wants, then Blend will be down to Silvano and the War Sun and cruiser in the fire ball.

Not to mention cementing your status as an absolute dickhole.

[Gnaw]

Oh, and should he take Nestphar, I have the repeal law action card.

[Gnaw]

Blend, on 14 March 2019 - 06:01 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 14 March 2019 - 05:59 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 14 March 2019 - 05:18 PM, said:

@Gnaw

If you managed to take Blend's hw in the future somehow, I'll compensate you with my sftt and let you keep it as the rightful owner

I'm going to use QDH to grab Leadership. Was always going to do that for the CTs. Now the initiative will be beneficial as well. Turn 1 I take Muaat, turn 2 I can take Dal Bootha/Xxehan as long as I'm not pressured elsewhere.

If you take a low initiative car, turn 1 you take Mellon/Zhobat. That will leave him with no docks to build with.

If IH takes Quann, which he's stated he wants, then Blend will be down to Silvano and the War Sun and cruiser in the fire ball.

Not to mention cementing your status as an absolute dickhole.

And here I thought Morgoth was going to be the one I'd end up in conflict with....

And, btw, the missteps I spoke of earlier? The first and biggest was thinking that a War Sun was a big enough stick to make Nom do what you wanted. D'rek tried to warn you about that but you didn't listen.

[Gnaw]

Gnaw, on 14 March 2019 - 05:59 PM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 14 March 2019 - 05:18 PM, said:

@Gnaw

If you managed to take Blend's hw in the future somehow, I'll compensate you with my sftt and let you keep it as the rightful owner

I'm going to use QDH to grab Leadership. Was always going to do that for the CTs. Now the initiative will be beneficial as well. Turn 1 I take Muaat, turn 2 I can take Dal Bootha/Xxehan as long as I'm not pressured elsewhere.

If you take a low initiative car, turn 1 you take Mellon/Zhobat. That will leave him with no docks to build with.

If IH takes Quann, which he's stated he wants, then Blend will be down to Silvano and the War Sun and cruiser in the fire ball.

Ah, Nom. I’ll cede Mellon/Zhobat to you the next round.

[Imperial Historian]

I'm not going to join in on the dismantling of blend. Seems overly mean.

Blend the biggest mistake you've made is being open about fucking up gnaw if you'd kept quiet another turn you'd have a proper fleet back and a chance, now you are fucked.

Can't wait for the war sun in a super nova hide and seek which is going to be going on! If you need help in these dire times mentak mercenaries can be purchased

[Imperial Historian]

That offer is open to all btw the mentak mercenary fleet is always ready to do business.

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 14 March 2019 - 06:19 PM, said:

That offer is open to all btw the mentak mercenary fleet is always ready to do business.

I'll pay you 4 TG to attack Thibah with your flagship