[Galactic Council]

I've revealed the new public objective - it's our old friend Lead from the Front

[Tattersail_]

Good Morning Hacan,

How are you on this fine day? We hope all is well. We come to you humbly to propose a trade deal that may or may not see you come out in profit. We have asked the esteemed council to show you two of our cards and for you to put a value on them for you to buy off us. If the valuation is good then maybe we could do some sort of deal for them? Please do not agree to any deals until we barter a little further as we am keen to do business with you.

This post has been edited by Tattersail_: 04 February 2019 - 11:27 AM

[Galactic Council]

Tattersail_, on 04 February 2019 - 11:27 AM, said:

Good Morning Hacan,

How are you on this fine day? We hope all is well. We come to you humbly to propose a trade deal that may or may not see you come out in profit. We have asked the esteemed council to show you two of our cards and for you to put a value on them for you to buy off us. If the valuation is good then maybe we could do some sort of deal for them? Please do not agree to any deals until we barter a little further as we am keen to do business with you.

Show them yourself But include me in the convo.

[Tapper]

Galactic Council, on 04 February 2019 - 11:32 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 04 February 2019 - 11:27 AM, said:

Good Morning Hacan,

How are you on this fine day? We hope all is well. We come to you humbly to propose a trade deal that may or may not see you come out in profit. We have asked the esteemed council to show you two of our cards and for you to put a value on them for you to buy off us. If the valuation is good then maybe we could do some sort of deal for them? Please do not agree to any deals until we barter a little further as we am keen to do business with you.

Show them yourself But include me in the convo.

I assume my reply is public?

1. I am not interested in buying either for myself right now.
2. If you want an indicator, it seems I value things differently than... some/ most/ whatever
3. With combat cards, in the end the question is 'how much does a replacement cost?' Essentially, roughly 2 TG in production costs for bigger ships, and 1 TG on each pair of fighters (as you cannot pay half a TG) and single destroyers (which so far have been a non-factor in our games). Add in the CT investments of building ships and moving fleets, and I'd say roughly 2.5 TG for each big ship (Cruiser, Dread, Carrier, Flagship) and 1 TG for all the others.


Card 1: 1 TG.
Card 2: 4-5 TG for the right player, 2-3 for someone who just likes it as insurance.

[Tattersail_]

Tapper, on 04 February 2019 - 12:44 PM, said:

Galactic Council, on 04 February 2019 - 11:32 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 04 February 2019 - 11:27 AM, said:

Good Morning Hacan,

How are you on this fine day? We hope all is well. We come to you humbly to propose a trade deal that may or may not see you come out in profit. We have asked the esteemed council to show you two of our cards and for you to put a value on them for you to buy off us. If the valuation is good then maybe we could do some sort of deal for them? Please do not agree to any deals until we barter a little further as we am keen to do business with you.

Show them yourself But include me in the convo.

I assume my reply is public?

1. I am not interested in buying either for myself right now.
2. If you want an indicator, it seems I value things differently than... some/ most/ whatever
3. With combat cards, in the end the question is 'how much does a replacement cost?' Essentially, roughly 2 TG in production costs for bigger ships, and 1 TG on each pair of fighters (as you cannot pay half a TG) and single destroyers (which so far have been a non-factor in our games). Add in the CT investments of building ships and moving fleets, and I'd say roughly 2.5 TG for each big ship (Cruiser, Dread, Carrier, Flagship) and 1 TG for all the others.


Card 1: 1 TG.
Card 2: 4-5 TG for the right player, 2-3 for someone who just likes it as insurance.

Instead of buying them then, would you trade me 4 TG's for my Trade PN, and card 2 as a boon? If you value it at 4-5 TG then maybe you could sell it on if you do not need it?

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 04 February 2019 - 12:49 PM, said:

Tapper, on 04 February 2019 - 12:44 PM, said:

Galactic Council, on 04 February 2019 - 11:32 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 04 February 2019 - 11:27 AM, said:

Good Morning Hacan,

How are you on this fine day? We hope all is well. We come to you humbly to propose a trade deal that may or may not see you come out in profit. We have asked the esteemed council to show you two of our cards and for you to put a value on them for you to buy off us. If the valuation is good then maybe we could do some sort of deal for them? Please do not agree to any deals until we barter a little further as we am keen to do business with you.

Show them yourself But include me in the convo.

I assume my reply is public?

1. I am not interested in buying either for myself right now.
2. If you want an indicator, it seems I value things differently than... some/ most/ whatever
3. With combat cards, in the end the question is 'how much does a replacement cost?' Essentially, roughly 2 TG in production costs for bigger ships, and 1 TG on each pair of fighters (as you cannot pay half a TG) and single destroyers (which so far have been a non-factor in our games). Add in the CT investments of building ships and moving fleets, and I'd say roughly 2.5 TG for each big ship (Cruiser, Dread, Carrier, Flagship) and 1 TG for all the others.


Card 1: 1 TG.
Card 2: 4-5 TG for the right player, 2-3 for someone who just likes it as insurance.

Instead of buying them then, would you trade me 4 TG's for my Trade PN, and card 2 as a boon? If you value it at 4-5 TG then maybe you could sell it on if you do not need it?

Probably, but I will only give a definite answer after I know which Strategy card I hold, and who has selected Trade.

[Galactic Council]

Tapper, on 04 February 2019 - 12:44 PM, said:

Galactic Council, on 04 February 2019 - 11:32 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 04 February 2019 - 11:27 AM, said:

Good Morning Hacan,

How are you on this fine day? We hope all is well. We come to you humbly to propose a trade deal that may or may not see you come out in profit. We have asked the esteemed council to show you two of our cards and for you to put a value on them for you to buy off us. If the valuation is good then maybe we could do some sort of deal for them? Please do not agree to any deals until we barter a little further as we am keen to do business with you.

Show them yourself But include me in the convo.

I assume my reply is public?

1. I am not interested in buying either for myself right now.
2. If you want an indicator, it seems I value things differently than... some/ most/ whatever
3. With combat cards, in the end the question is 'how much does a replacement cost?' Essentially, roughly 2 TG in production costs for bigger ships, and 1 TG on each pair of fighters (as you cannot pay half a TG) and single destroyers (which so far have been a non-factor in our games). Add in the CT investments of building ships and moving fleets, and I'd say roughly 2.5 TG for each big ship (Cruiser, Dread, Carrier, Flagship) and 1 TG for all the others.


Card 1: 1 TG.
Card 2: 4-5 TG for the right player, 2-3 for someone who just likes it as insurance.

Yes, responses in public thank you, though obviously you can make them as vague or clear as you wish

[Imperial Historian]

Tattersail_, on 04 February 2019 - 12:49 PM, said:

Tapper, on 04 February 2019 - 12:44 PM, said:

Galactic Council, on 04 February 2019 - 11:32 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 04 February 2019 - 11:27 AM, said:

Good Morning Hacan,

How are you on this fine day? We hope all is well. We come to you humbly to propose a trade deal that may or may not see you come out in profit. We have asked the esteemed council to show you two of our cards and for you to put a value on them for you to buy off us. If the valuation is good then maybe we could do some sort of deal for them? Please do not agree to any deals until we barter a little further as we am keen to do business with you.

Show them yourself But include me in the convo.

I assume my reply is public?

1. I am not interested in buying either for myself right now.
2. If you want an indicator, it seems I value things differently than... some/ most/ whatever
3. With combat cards, in the end the question is 'how much does a replacement cost?' Essentially, roughly 2 TG in production costs for bigger ships, and 1 TG on each pair of fighters (as you cannot pay half a TG) and single destroyers (which so far have been a non-factor in our games). Add in the CT investments of building ships and moving fleets, and I'd say roughly 2.5 TG for each big ship (Cruiser, Dread, Carrier, Flagship) and 1 TG for all the others.


Card 1: 1 TG.
Card 2: 4-5 TG for the right player, 2-3 for someone who just likes it as insurance.

Instead of buying them then, would you trade me 4 TG's for my Trade PN, and card 2 as a boon? If you value it at 4-5 TG then maybe you could sell it on if you do not need it?

Tatts, if you have a card which Tapper values at 4-5 TG, you might be better off offering it on the open market rather than just giving it to Tapper, for essentially doing a deal which doesn't lose him any TG...

[Imperial Historian]

Also what's the deal with tar'mann, I obviously want it this turn, are you going to dispute it with me?

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 04 February 2019 - 02:20 PM, said:

Also what's the deal with tar'mann, I obviously want it this turn, are you going to dispute it with me?

I am not going to dispute Tar'mann with you this turn. I am not saying that I will not go for it in future rounds but it is not essential to my current plans.

Regarding the AC do you not think they lose value if everyone know you have them?

[Tattersail_]

As per Hacan's own policy

Quote

Second, the Hacan are willing to act as an intermediary for the exchange of action cards for all but our enemies
We do so out of courtesy and do not charge a fee: the information of which cards change hands is enough for us. However, Imperial our accountants have always insisted on transparancy and we see no reason to change this practice.
When two parties deal favours to one another through the Emirates' offices, we expressedly reserve the right to publish which cards have changed hands.
In addition, each transaction is executed during the turn of the Hacan.

There is no guarantee that they will go before me in initiative order which means I will not get the TG before my turn. So dealing with the Hacan direct seems to be the best option as they can trade straight away.

@Hacan, we will see what happens in terms of your strategy pick, who gets trade and speak more on this then?

[D'rek]

Imperial Historian, on 04 February 2019 - 09:42 AM, said:

D, on 04 February 2019 - 01:15 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 03 February 2019 - 08:28 PM, said:

D, on 03 February 2019 - 07:39 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 03 February 2019 - 08:50 AM, said:

The mentak are dismayed that the jol nar, sol and winnu races are discussing the ownership of tarman amongst themselves, when it is clear that this planet was an old mentak outpost (produces map with tarmentakan written on in crayon). If tarmentakan is to be taken then due consideration must be given to the mentaks prior claim. This planet is of great sentimental value to some of our crews and we would be loath to give up our claim.

The Jol-Nar do not dispute the existence of this supposed Mentak "trading outpost" on Tar'mann, but we would highly encourage you to study the complete history of the planet before making such brash pronouncements. The planet - the surface of which, I will note, is 98% liquid - is populated by billions of the native aquatic semi-sentient Troutan and Haddockian species. First contact with both of these species was established in the initial Lazax survey (implemented overall by the Winnarans, but using Hylar for the actual contact due to the need for underwater contact) of the planet 1822 years ago, and the planet's native government voluntarily joined the Imperium several days later, upon which they happily joined the Hylar-lead aquatic union within the Imperium. For centuries the Troutans and Haddockii lived, traded, and prospered within the union.

Like everywhere else, contact and transit has dwindled between the planets during the Dark Years.

And yes, there was a brief time 230 years ago when a Mentak ship carrying too much raw hydrogen without any redundant safety systems partially exploded and made a crash landing onto one of Tar'mann's small islands, residing there for 55 years of sporadic cannibalism before they got their rescue beacon working, never realizing the oceans surrounding them was populated.

But Mentak "outpost" or no Mentak "outpost", the native people of Tar'mann have been partners of the Jol-Nar for millenia prior, and there are still Troutan and Haddockian populations on Jol and Nar, as well as Hylar living in the myrkseas of Tar'mann from the cross-migrations of eons past. Come visit our excellent Museum of Extrasolar History in Wun-Escha where there is an entire wing dedicated to (and very well-documenting) this exciting history.

The mentak have no desire for prolonged residence on tarmentakan which as all agree was a bit of a shithole (though the sushi was excellent), but merely wish to visit the planet, lay to rest our mentak ancestors and move on to pastures new. The mentak hope both the sol and the jol nar will not stand in the way of this simple expression of grief for our ancestors, lest unfortunate hostilities occur.

The jol nar already have our promise of protection so the mentak are surprised that further expressions of good will are necessary, indeed the spread of the mentak can only further galactic trade in a safe, minorly taxed manor.

Promise of Protection doesn't prevent you from attacking me. If you want me to voluntarily not take a planet I'm right next to and be hemmed in by Mentak ships on all sides... then the sense of security from holding the Mentak ceasefire would put me at ease about such a situation and make up for the lost resources I miss out on from not taking a planet that's right next to me. Obviously you want the planet so you can acquire a VP - don't you think trading a ceasefire for 1 VP plus however much resources you can get from it is worth it? And of course I promise I'm not going to use it for some sort of maneuver where I try to move to Tar'mann or Mehar Xull before you and then block you from them.


If not, well... I enjoy your RP, but giving up a useful planet to you so you can acquire a VP and all I get in return is some fun reading isn't a good enough deal.

Being surrounded by a the warm comforting embrace of the mentak doesn't fill you with security? If you are surrounded by us we also prevent the rest of the galaxy from reaching you, which is surely a big benefit for you fragile squid creatures that you are.

RP aside id be happy to trade my ceasefire for a VP and tar'man but a) your claim to it is disputed so I'm unlikely to hold it long, if we ended up fighting for it I'm pretty sure I'd win in the end, and make turtling difficult for you c) me holding it gives you a very distracting mentak shield leaving you free to pursue your ideal startegy of turtling in peace. And finally d) there is nothing to stop you firing away at my ships everyone I produce when you inevitably get PDS 2 on bereg/lirta, and I build a forward base on saudor.

So I'm open to a deal that appropriately values my ceasefire, but I think I value it higher than you. I'd want as a minimum that your PDS don't fire on me, and fire to defend my planets for the duration of the ceasefire (and vice versa if I get pds2), on top of your assurances that you won't use it to do anything tricky.

The security you get is much more beneficial to you than me.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...................

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(thinking)

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(distracted by tentacles getting tangled)

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Ah, what the heck. Let's do it. I agree to those terms.

[Itwæs Nom]

Uhm, Blend, I'll be so nice to clear my units out of Mellon-Z for you if you give me a turn:)

[Blend]

Itwæs Nom, on 04 February 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

Uhm, Blend, I'll be so nice to clear my units out of Mellon-Z for you if you give me a turn:)

LoL - I'm supposed to trust you to remove units rather than reinforcing? Also, by clearing out 2 of your infantry, I reduce your production ability as well. I think it will be easier for me to hold on to M/Z if I do that as you won't be able to build a big army faster than I can reinforce it!

I realize this is gonna be a huge pain in the ass for you, but I didn't really have much of a choice. The planets in my slice sucked the big ones, so I either had to go for M/Z or Lodd Eru, and frankly, I'm less scared of the Arborec than I am the Nekro, so I figured I'd rather piss you off than Macaw!

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 04 February 2019 - 02:30 PM, said:

As per Hacan's own policy

Quote

Second, the Hacan are willing to act as an intermediary for the exchange of action cards for all but our enemies
We do so out of courtesy and do not charge a fee: the information of which cards change hands is enough for us. However, Imperial our accountants have always insisted on transparancy and we see no reason to change this practice.
When two parties deal favours to one another through the Emirates' offices, we expressedly reserve the right to publish which cards have changed hands.
In addition, each transaction is executed during the turn of the Hacan.

There is no guarantee that they will go before me in initiative order which means I will not get the TG before my turn. So dealing with the Hacan direct seems to be the best option as they can trade straight away.

@Hacan, we will see what happens in terms of your strategy pick, who gets trade and speak more on this then?

I wrote that charter to not see lots of "trade 2:2 with Hacan" messages pop up after commodities refresh. The same for trades - I want at the least know what will happen and what I need to put in my PM - on top of that, I want to be able to react if something that could affect me, goes through my hands. If that delays plans, so be it: I offer a free service, after all.

[Imperial Historian]

D, on 04 February 2019 - 02:40 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 04 February 2019 - 09:42 AM, said:

D, on 04 February 2019 - 01:15 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 03 February 2019 - 08:28 PM, said:

D, on 03 February 2019 - 07:39 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 03 February 2019 - 08:50 AM, said:

The mentak are dismayed that the jol nar, sol and winnu races are discussing the ownership of tarman amongst themselves, when it is clear that this planet was an old mentak outpost (produces map with tarmentakan written on in crayon). If tarmentakan is to be taken then due consideration must be given to the mentaks prior claim. This planet is of great sentimental value to some of our crews and we would be loath to give up our claim.

The Jol-Nar do not dispute the existence of this supposed Mentak "trading outpost" on Tar'mann, but we would highly encourage you to study the complete history of the planet before making such brash pronouncements. The planet - the surface of which, I will note, is 98% liquid - is populated by billions of the native aquatic semi-sentient Troutan and Haddockian species. First contact with both of these species was established in the initial Lazax survey (implemented overall by the Winnarans, but using Hylar for the actual contact due to the need for underwater contact) of the planet 1822 years ago, and the planet's native government voluntarily joined the Imperium several days later, upon which they happily joined the Hylar-lead aquatic union within the Imperium. For centuries the Troutans and Haddockii lived, traded, and prospered within the union.

Like everywhere else, contact and transit has dwindled between the planets during the Dark Years.

And yes, there was a brief time 230 years ago when a Mentak ship carrying too much raw hydrogen without any redundant safety systems partially exploded and made a crash landing onto one of Tar'mann's small islands, residing there for 55 years of sporadic cannibalism before they got their rescue beacon working, never realizing the oceans surrounding them was populated.

But Mentak "outpost" or no Mentak "outpost", the native people of Tar'mann have been partners of the Jol-Nar for millenia prior, and there are still Troutan and Haddockian populations on Jol and Nar, as well as Hylar living in the myrkseas of Tar'mann from the cross-migrations of eons past. Come visit our excellent Museum of Extrasolar History in Wun-Escha where there is an entire wing dedicated to (and very well-documenting) this exciting history.

The mentak have no desire for prolonged residence on tarmentakan which as all agree was a bit of a shithole (though the sushi was excellent), but merely wish to visit the planet, lay to rest our mentak ancestors and move on to pastures new. The mentak hope both the sol and the jol nar will not stand in the way of this simple expression of grief for our ancestors, lest unfortunate hostilities occur.

The jol nar already have our promise of protection so the mentak are surprised that further expressions of good will are necessary, indeed the spread of the mentak can only further galactic trade in a safe, minorly taxed manor.

Promise of Protection doesn't prevent you from attacking me. If you want me to voluntarily not take a planet I'm right next to and be hemmed in by Mentak ships on all sides... then the sense of security from holding the Mentak ceasefire would put me at ease about such a situation and make up for the lost resources I miss out on from not taking a planet that's right next to me. Obviously you want the planet so you can acquire a VP - don't you think trading a ceasefire for 1 VP plus however much resources you can get from it is worth it? And of course I promise I'm not going to use it for some sort of maneuver where I try to move to Tar'mann or Mehar Xull before you and then block you from them.


If not, well... I enjoy your RP, but giving up a useful planet to you so you can acquire a VP and all I get in return is some fun reading isn't a good enough deal.

Being surrounded by a the warm comforting embrace of the mentak doesn't fill you with security? If you are surrounded by us we also prevent the rest of the galaxy from reaching you, which is surely a big benefit for you fragile squid creatures that you are.

RP aside id be happy to trade my ceasefire for a VP and tar'man but a) your claim to it is disputed so I'm unlikely to hold it long, if we ended up fighting for it I'm pretty sure I'd win in the end, and make turtling difficult for you c) me holding it gives you a very distracting mentak shield leaving you free to pursue your ideal startegy of turtling in peace. And finally d) there is nothing to stop you firing away at my ships everyone I produce when you inevitably get PDS 2 on bereg/lirta, and I build a forward base on saudor.

So I'm open to a deal that appropriately values my ceasefire, but I think I value it higher than you. I'd want as a minimum that your PDS don't fire on me, and fire to defend my planets for the duration of the ceasefire (and vice versa if I get pds2), on top of your assurances that you won't use it to do anything tricky.

The security you get is much more beneficial to you than me.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...................

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(thinking)

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(distracted by tentacles getting tangled)

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Ah, what the heck. Let's do it. I agree to those terms.

Why do I feel I've just made a deal with the devil and I'm going to come to regret this...

[D'rek]

Naaaaaah. Once the PDS missiles start flying you'll be a very happy camper

[Gnaw]

Imperial Historian, on 04 February 2019 - 05:13 PM, said:

D, on 04 February 2019 - 02:40 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 04 February 2019 - 09:42 AM, said:

D, on 04 February 2019 - 01:15 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 03 February 2019 - 08:28 PM, said:

D, on 03 February 2019 - 07:39 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 03 February 2019 - 08:50 AM, said:

The mentak are dismayed that the jol nar, sol and winnu races are discussing the ownership of tarman amongst themselves, when it is clear that this planet was an old mentak outpost (produces map with tarmentakan written on in crayon). If tarmentakan is to be taken then due consideration must be given to the mentaks prior claim. This planet is of great sentimental value to some of our crews and we would be loath to give up our claim.

The Jol-Nar do not dispute the existence of this supposed Mentak "trading outpost" on Tar'mann, but we would highly encourage you to study the complete history of the planet before making such brash pronouncements. The planet - the surface of which, I will note, is 98% liquid - is populated by billions of the native aquatic semi-sentient Troutan and Haddockian species. First contact with both of these species was established in the initial Lazax survey (implemented overall by the Winnarans, but using Hylar for the actual contact due to the need for underwater contact) of the planet 1822 years ago, and the planet's native government voluntarily joined the Imperium several days later, upon which they happily joined the Hylar-lead aquatic union within the Imperium. For centuries the Troutans and Haddockii lived, traded, and prospered within the union.

Like everywhere else, contact and transit has dwindled between the planets during the Dark Years.

And yes, there was a brief time 230 years ago when a Mentak ship carrying too much raw hydrogen without any redundant safety systems partially exploded and made a crash landing onto one of Tar'mann's small islands, residing there for 55 years of sporadic cannibalism before they got their rescue beacon working, never realizing the oceans surrounding them was populated.

But Mentak "outpost" or no Mentak "outpost", the native people of Tar'mann have been partners of the Jol-Nar for millenia prior, and there are still Troutan and Haddockian populations on Jol and Nar, as well as Hylar living in the myrkseas of Tar'mann from the cross-migrations of eons past. Come visit our excellent Museum of Extrasolar History in Wun-Escha where there is an entire wing dedicated to (and very well-documenting) this exciting history.

The mentak have no desire for prolonged residence on tarmentakan which as all agree was a bit of a shithole (though the sushi was excellent), but merely wish to visit the planet, lay to rest our mentak ancestors and move on to pastures new. The mentak hope both the sol and the jol nar will not stand in the way of this simple expression of grief for our ancestors, lest unfortunate hostilities occur.

The jol nar already have our promise of protection so the mentak are surprised that further expressions of good will are necessary, indeed the spread of the mentak can only further galactic trade in a safe, minorly taxed manor.

Promise of Protection doesn't prevent you from attacking me. If you want me to voluntarily not take a planet I'm right next to and be hemmed in by Mentak ships on all sides... then the sense of security from holding the Mentak ceasefire would put me at ease about such a situation and make up for the lost resources I miss out on from not taking a planet that's right next to me. Obviously you want the planet so you can acquire a VP - don't you think trading a ceasefire for 1 VP plus however much resources you can get from it is worth it? And of course I promise I'm not going to use it for some sort of maneuver where I try to move to Tar'mann or Mehar Xull before you and then block you from them.


If not, well... I enjoy your RP, but giving up a useful planet to you so you can acquire a VP and all I get in return is some fun reading isn't a good enough deal.

Being surrounded by a the warm comforting embrace of the mentak doesn't fill you with security? If you are surrounded by us we also prevent the rest of the galaxy from reaching you, which is surely a big benefit for you fragile squid creatures that you are.

RP aside id be happy to trade my ceasefire for a VP and tar'man but a) your claim to it is disputed so I'm unlikely to hold it long, if we ended up fighting for it I'm pretty sure I'd win in the end, and make turtling difficult for you c) me holding it gives you a very distracting mentak shield leaving you free to pursue your ideal startegy of turtling in peace. And finally d) there is nothing to stop you firing away at my ships everyone I produce when you inevitably get PDS 2 on bereg/lirta, and I build a forward base on saudor.

So I'm open to a deal that appropriately values my ceasefire, but I think I value it higher than you. I'd want as a minimum that your PDS don't fire on me, and fire to defend my planets for the duration of the ceasefire (and vice versa if I get pds2), on top of your assurances that you won't use it to do anything tricky.

The security you get is much more beneficial to you than me.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...................

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(thinking)

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(distracted by tentacles getting tangled)

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Ah, what the heck. Let's do it. I agree to those terms.

Why do I feel I've just made a deal with the devil and I'm going to come to regret this...

Sense of impending doom? Yep. That’s D’rek.

[Gnaw]

Gnaw, on 03 February 2019 - 09:51 PM, said:

Tapper, we will sell you our Trade PN and Political Secret for 3TG.

Tapper, now that half the cards are gone and you choose after us, what do you think of ^^^

[D'rek]

Gnaw, on 04 February 2019 - 05:57 PM, said:

Sense of impending doom? Yep. That’s D’rek.

Naaaaaaaah

Btw are you still worried about Sir Winnu taking the Oregon Trail to Mecatol? I don't think you ever replied to my Antivirus bit.