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Amazon's new Lord of the Rings TV series New series will be a prequel set in the Second Age

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Posted 07 March 2019 - 02:38 PM

Updates on the Amazon LotR series.

Amazon have released a series of maps which seem to confirm that the TV series will now be set firmly in the Second Age of Middle-earth. So, no hobbits but the Numenoreans will show up, along with the elves and Sauron. Based on the maps, it appears that the story might be multi-generational, spanning the period from the forging of the Rings of Power to the War of the Last Alliance that ended the Second Age, a period of 1700 years. The last map makes a big deal of Numenor being there in particular.

This is great. The original idea - "The Amazing Adventures of Young Aragorn" - was a bit crap, so seeing them go deep-diving into the lore is excellent.

Even more intriguing is that the map of Numenor and many of the place names on the Second Age map are copyrighted as part of Unfinished Tales. Amazon must have persuaded the Tolkien Estate to let them licence the rights to Unfinished Tales. That suggests that if the project is successful, they might even get the Silmarillion rights later on.

The show is expected to start production in November for a mid-2021 release.
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Posted 14 March 2019 - 10:45 AM

A little bit more info and you can even vote on who could play Sauron!

https://editorial.ro...-amazon-series/
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Posted 14 March 2019 - 10:49 AM

I'm voting for Harvey Weinstein.
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Posted 14 March 2019 - 11:25 AM

Now we know why Galadriel drove him away so brutally.
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Posted 14 March 2019 - 05:55 PM

Ooh can we vote for a woman of colour to play Sauron as that would SERIOUSLY annoy the right wing MAGA bellend that get triggered about everything haha
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Posted 14 March 2019 - 06:02 PM

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Ooh can we vote for a woman of colour to play Sauron as that would SERIOUSLY annoy the right wing MAGA bellend that get triggered about everything haha


What's great about Sauron as a character is that there never was a gender associated with the character, or a race, so they can literally cast anyone and it would fit with the narrative! I fully support your casting notion!
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Posted 14 March 2019 - 06:08 PM

Uhh, Sauron is clearly a white Anglo Saxon Aryan blonde Republican NRA member... You cucks.
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Posted 14 March 2019 - 06:12 PM

Ugh
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Posted 14 March 2019 - 06:17 PM

Robert Bockstael, who did the voice of Sauron on the X-Men cartoon.
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Posted 14 March 2019 - 06:39 PM

Article reminds me why I found Simarillon(whatever itís called) a snooze fest. I donít want to read that shit but I ll happily watch it. So I skipped to casting. Redmayne as Elrond? No way. He has grown on me as an actor but I just donít see it with Elrond.

Jodie Comer would make a perfect Cate replacement if Cate passes but Iíd hope only if it didnít clash with Jodieís Killing Eve which is fucking awesome.
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Posted 14 March 2019 - 06:45 PM

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View PostTiste Simeon, on 14 March 2019 - 05:55 PM, said:

Ooh can we vote for a woman of colour to play Sauron as that would SERIOUSLY annoy the right wing MAGA bellend that get triggered about everything haha


What's great about Sauron as a character is that there never was a gender associated with the character, or a race, so they can literally cast anyone and it would fit with the narrative! I fully support your casting notion!


The Big Bad who gets defeated by a bunch of white guys of varying sizes as a woman of color... i think you maybe have the MAGA reaction backwards.
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Posted 14 March 2019 - 06:48 PM

View PostBriar King, on 14 March 2019 - 06:39 PM, said:

Article reminds me why I found Simarillon(whatever itís called) a snooze fest. I donít want to read that shit but I ll happily watch it. So I skipped to casting. Redmayne as Elrond? No way. He has grown on me as an actor but I just donít see it with Elrond.

Jodie Comer would make a perfect Cate replacement if Cate passes but Iíd hope only if it didnít clash with Jodieís Killing Eve which is fucking awesome.


I want Cate in it, and Hugo or that matter just for consistency that Elves live for like hundreds of thousands of years.
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Posted 14 March 2019 - 06:55 PM

It would be the best outcomes yes.

Amazon has nuff doe to fork over to use computers to age them back to 2001 days if people are concerned with that.

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 06:59 PM

View PostBriar King, on 14 March 2019 - 06:55 PM, said:

It would be the best outcomes yes.

Amazon has nuff doe to fork over to use computers to age them back to 2001 days if people are concerned with that.


Absolutely they do.

Man, with JACK RYAN, GOOD OMENS, and all the other stuff coming from Amazon in the near future...I'm glad I've hung onto my Prime acct!
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Posted 03 July 2019 - 07:33 PM

Big update.

J.A. Bayona (THE ORPHANAGE, THE IMPOSSIBLE, A MONSTER CALLS, er, JURASSIC PARK: FALLEN KINGDOM) will direct the first two episodes.

Gennifer Hutchison (BREAKING BAD, BETTER CALL SAUL) has been added to the writing room.

After a huge battle between Scotland and New Zealand, New Zealand has emerged victorious and the new show - with the working title LORD OF THE RINGS: THE SECOND AGE - will shoot in that country once again. However, production will be based in Auckland rather than Wellington as in Jackson's movies.

Also some clarification: GoT writer-producer Bryan Cogman has joined the show as an advisor and producer, as he was added to the project when writing for the show was already at an advanced stage. He may have an expanded role for Season 2.
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Posted 03 July 2019 - 08:23 PM

Interesting. You'd think Cogman would be busy with his duties fighting Mega Man.
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Posted 03 July 2019 - 09:13 PM

Why was Scotland even in the running? New Zealand is Middle Earth. It is known.
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 08:15 AM

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Ooh can we vote for a woman of colour to play Sauron as that would SERIOUSLY annoy the right wing MAGA bellend that get triggered about everything haha


What's great about Sauron as a character is that there never was a gender associated with the character, or a race, so they can literally cast anyone and it would fit with the narrative! I fully support your casting notion!


Isn't he desrcribed in cannon as taking on the form of a very handsome elvish or human prince when trying to seduce the elves to make the rings and later to convince numenor to go to war? I mean he could take on the form of a balrog if he wanted but I'm sure he chose to look like a man? Of course that just shows that he made use of the gender disparity in middle earth cultures where the voice of a man would be take more seriously on war councils. Its actually a very powerfull criticism of the times
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 01:19 PM

View PostCause, on 04 July 2019 - 08:15 AM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 14 March 2019 - 06:02 PM, said:

View PostTiste Simeon, on 14 March 2019 - 05:55 PM, said:

Ooh can we vote for a woman of colour to play Sauron as that would SERIOUSLY annoy the right wing MAGA bellend that get triggered about everything haha


What's great about Sauron as a character is that there never was a gender associated with the character, or a race, so they can literally cast anyone and it would fit with the narrative! I fully support your casting notion!


Isn't he desrcribed in cannon as taking on the form of a very handsome elvish or human prince when trying to seduce the elves to make the rings and later to convince numenor to go to war? I mean he could take on the form of a balrog if he wanted but I'm sure he chose to look like a man? Of course that just shows that he made use of the gender disparity in middle earth cultures where the voice of a man would be take more seriously on war councils. Its actually a very powerfull criticism of the times


He could just as easily have been a princess doing those things though.

I mean, at the end of the day, the gods and demigods are quite specifically not human and so the whole notion of gender becomes kind of meaningless. Doubly so for Sauron who is a balrog.
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 01:26 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 04 July 2019 - 01:19 PM, said:

View PostCause, on 04 July 2019 - 08:15 AM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 14 March 2019 - 06:02 PM, said:

View PostTiste Simeon, on 14 March 2019 - 05:55 PM, said:

Ooh can we vote for a woman of colour to play Sauron as that would SERIOUSLY annoy the right wing MAGA bellend that get triggered about everything haha


What's great about Sauron as a character is that there never was a gender associated with the character, or a race, so they can literally cast anyone and it would fit with the narrative! I fully support your casting notion!


Isn't he desrcribed in cannon as taking on the form of a very handsome elvish or human prince when trying to seduce the elves to make the rings and later to convince numenor to go to war? I mean he could take on the form of a balrog if he wanted but I'm sure he chose to look like a man? Of course that just shows that he made use of the gender disparity in middle earth cultures where the voice of a man would be take more seriously on war councils. Its actually a very powerfull criticism of the times


He could just as easily have been a princess doing those things though.

I mean, at the end of the day, the gods and demigods are quite specifically not human and so the whole notion of gender becomes kind of meaningless. Doubly so for Sauron who is a balrog.


This.

In fact the Valar and the Maiar (of which Sauron is one) are described as draping themselves in the raiment of humanity of their choosing when the are on M.E., so that really means they can just appear as whatever they want whenever they want to serve their purposes. Gandalf (also a Maiar) appears as an old man because he WANTS to appear as an old man.

In The Silmarillion, Sauron is described as being a shape changer, and took many forms, including that of a serpent, a vampire, and a great wolf. After Morgoth's fall, Sauron appeared in fair form as "Annatar", the Lord of Gifts, and maintained this appearance until the Fall of Númenor, in which he was unable to ever take fair form ever again.

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