[TheRetiredBridgeburner]

Also, the Valar only fully hide Valinor after events unfold (deliberate vagueness because said events will be covered in the series) - so it's more of a final measure to make sure nobody can get there who shouldn't.

[Malankazooie]

Elijah Wood's comment about calling it the Lord of the Rings.



It has really thrown me off personally, because I would like to read the material that the show is building its writing from. That's why I asked up thread about what books I should read. I've read The Silmarillion‎, but that was quite some time ago. Also, not sure if the show will dip into Unfinished Tales, which I've never read or some other books. I guess there could be some references to bits that were hinted at in LotR? The parts that hearken back to an older age, but is shrouded in the mists of time and are long faded legends?

[Macros]

It dips into huge piles of LotR money is what it dips into

[Morgoth]

 Macros, on 16 February 2021 - 10:38 PM, said:

It dips into huge piles of LotR money is what it dips into

Surely Amazon would not chose a subpar artistic choice out of greed.

[TheRetiredBridgeburner]

 Malankazooie, on 16 February 2021 - 06:42 PM, said:

It has really thrown me off personally, because I would like to read the material that the show is building its writing from. That's why I asked up thread about what books I should read. I've read The Silmarillion‎, but that was quite some time ago. Also, not sure if the show will dip into Unfinished Tales, which I've never read or some other books. I guess there could be some references to bits that were hinted at in LotR? The parts that hearken back to an older age, but is shrouded in the mists of time and are long faded legends?

Just responding to the Unfinished Tales question - the book is split between stories of the First, Second and Third Ages of the Sun, and the Second Age is predominantly Numenor based. Consists of maps and descriptions of the island itself, notes on the line of the kings descendant from Elros, and one lengthier story Aldarion and Erendis: The Mariner's Wife. That story is my favourite part of Unfinished Tales but I doubt the series will actually pick it up specifically as nobody else is featured except possibly by mention only, so I wouldn't say it's necessary to read it to enjoy the series. Worth it for pure enjoyment though.

The other Second Age material is thr History of Galadriel and Celeborn and of Amroth King of Lorien - also worth reading for enjoyment but hard to know if the series will cover much of it since they haven't confirmed who is actually involved. I'd suggest Galadriel and Celeborn are more likely to cameo if anything, as they are from way, way back into the Ages of the Trees.

This post has been edited by TheRetiredBridgeburner: 17 February 2021 - 10:10 AM

[Abyss]

WANDAVISION and THE MANDALORIAN have, arguably, demonstrated that a tv audience can appreciate a show done cleverly which acknowledges the source material while providing a story that doesn't demand the viewers know everything or even most of a thing, that came before.

On the other hand, THE HOBBIT trilogy. And that SHANNARA mess of a show. And whatever the fuck they did with the Goodkind books oh look my eyes are bleeding...

[Tsundoku]

 Abyss, on 17 February 2021 - 09:35 PM, said:

And whatever the fuck they did with the Goodkind books oh look my eyes are bleeding...

It's Goodkind - you can't polish a turd.

[Malankazooie]

huh, not related to the upcoming series on Amazon, but I learned from a podcast that for the original movie trilogy, there was a different actor cast to play Aragorn. The actor, Stuart Townsend, played the Vampire Lestat in the movie Queen of the Damned. Don't know anything about him and have never seen Queen of the Damned. I guess he was fired just prior to start of filming of The Fellowship of the Ring and replaced by Viggo Mortensen. huh, never knew that until this week. Interesting how little tidbits like come to light.

[Macros]

Studio wanted Russel Crowe afaik, Jackson wasn't remotely interested

Edit for typo

This post has been edited by Macros: 03 March 2021 - 02:40 PM

[TheRetiredBridgeburner]

There was some talk of Nicholas Cage as well, supposedly. Talk about dodging a bullet!

[QuickTidal]

 TheRetiredBridgeburner, on 03 March 2021 - 03:16 PM, said:

There was some talk of Nicholas Cage as well, supposedly. Talk about dodging a bullet!

Oh man, now I need to see a Nic Cage Aragorn.


"Hey man, I would have gone. WITH. YOU. TO. THE. END!"

[Briar King]

Cage has swag.

[Tiste Simeon]

 TheRetiredBridgeburner, on 03 March 2021 - 03:16 PM, said:

There was some talk of Nicholas Cage as well, supposedly. Talk about dodging a bullet!

Man I both do and DO NOT want to see that!

[TheRetiredBridgeburner]

 Tiste Simeon, on 03 March 2021 - 04:58 PM, said:

 TheRetiredBridgeburner, on 03 March 2021 - 03:16 PM, said:

There was some talk of Nicholas Cage as well, supposedly. Talk about dodging a bullet!

Man I both do and DO NOT want to see that!

I think I want it in the form of an outtakes reel, accompanied by quite extraordinary amounts of alcohol.

[QuickTidal]

 TheRetiredBridgeburner, on 03 March 2021 - 05:02 PM, said:

 Tiste Simeon, on 03 March 2021 - 04:58 PM, said:

 TheRetiredBridgeburner, on 03 March 2021 - 03:16 PM, said:

There was some talk of Nicholas Cage as well, supposedly. Talk about dodging a bullet!

Man I both do and DO NOT want to see that!

I think I want it in the form of an outtakes reel, accompanied by quite extraordinary amounts of alcohol.

It's like watching the abandoned footage of the half BACK TO THE FUTURE they shot with Eric Stolz as Marty being intense as hell before they replaced him with Michael J. Fox.

[Macros]

we nearly had a scottish Gandalf, but Connery said it was overly complicated

[Briar King]

Bruh that could have been some hella redemption after Highlander which is prefect cheese and not on him anyway but still...

[Maark Abbott]

Will there be digit loops?

[Aptorian]

Redemption? Highlander is some of the most important art mankind have yet produced.

[Malankazooie]

Is it true that prior to full production starting, Peter Jackson had James Earl Jones scheduled to do the voice of Sauron? I think I heard that somewhere.