[Traveller]

I knew it wasn't going to be there so it didn't surprise me. Can't say I minded, it was the first step away from the main series.

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Vaders castle apparently overlooks the lava-fall where he fought Obiwan. But good call on why he chose Mustafa.

This post has been edited by Traveller: 21 December 2016 - 10:24 AM

[blackzoid]

I was surprised by how much I really enjoyed Rogue one. So much more then the (IMHO), lazy and unoriginal, The Force Awakens which I grew to hate the more I watched it.
Rogue one was kidna....Malazan like in the way it focused on the regular soldiers and grunts. It was refreshing.

[QuickTidal]

Briar King, on 21 December 2016 - 05:44 PM, said:

Traveller, on 21 December 2016 - 10:23 AM, said:

I knew it wasn't going to be there so it didn't surprise me. Can't say I minded, it was the first step away from the main series.

Spoiler

Vaders castle apparently overlooks the lava-fall where he fought Obiwan. But good call on why he chose Mustafa.

No you didn't! lol

Yea it represents hell so seems fitting considering his internal emo.

Indeed. It REALLY ties into how conflicted Vader is even after he turns, and throughout his service to the Sith. It makes his turn back more believable to be honest. I loved it.

Just re-watched the episodes of TCW where Saw Gerrera was first introduced (trained to fight by Ahsoka, Anakin, and Obi-Wan to fight to free their own planet), and he really comes off as an earlier (less at-wits-end/paranoid) version of himself as he was by the time ROGUE ONE occurs.

I've said it before, but the Lucasfilm New Canon Story Group is on the damned ball man!

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 21 December 2016 - 05:53 PM

[Traveller]

Briar King, on 21 December 2016 - 05:44 PM, said:

Traveller, on 21 December 2016 - 10:23 AM, said:

I knew it wasn't going to be there so it didn't surprise me. Can't say I minded, it was the first step away from the main series.

Spoiler

Vaders castle apparently overlooks the lava-fall where he fought Obiwan. But good call on why he chose Mustafa.

No you didn't! lol

Yea it represents hell so seems fitting considering his internal emo.

Yes I did, nyah! At least I saw an article headline entitled 'why there won't be an opening crawl in Rogue One', which may have been a guess on their part but meant I wasnt expecting one.

[Mezla PigDog]

I just got back from seeing it. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Soooooo good. Possibly the best droid yet. And a good ending for the two leads.

[QuickTidal]

Shit! Carrie Fisher had a heart attack this aft. Is in hospital now. Hope she pulls through! Shitty year 2016 can't have her too.

[Traveller]

I put it in the groove messed thread. It can't be good if they were doing cpr on her in the plane..

I now don't want to go to sleep and then wake up with bad news. We rarely get a good outcome when we get patients who arrested somewhere miles from the hospital they finally end up in.

Fingers crossed..

[Traveller]

It is crappy, no updates for ages. Not a good sign.

[worry]

(Haven't read any of your reactions yet)

Spoiler

I enjoyed it quite a bit. It was a little dim visually, so much so that I thought it might be a technical issue, but the beach scenes were A-Ok so I guess it was a style choice. The action/adventure stuff here was really solid, and the characters were all a pleasure to watch. I do think it felt like a good beginning and a good ending fused together, but was missing a middle act that should have bonded the characters more. Like when Baze calls Jyn "little sister" it doesn't feel earned in terms of how little they've gone through together. So yah the movie could have stood to be 20 or 30 minutes longer, imo. I guess my only other complaint was that Baze should have had a bigger blaze-of-glory moment at the end too. That's a scene where the emotions actually work and feel earned but the action doesn't quite rise to the moment. I liked that the villains were primarily the Empire as an entity and an ambitious functionary.

It was just a very straightforward, well-executed romp. Anyone else call it the "Dancer's Lament" of Star Wars yet? Overall I'd give it an enthusiastic B.

This post has been edited by death rattle: 24 December 2016 - 03:54 AM

[LinearPhilosopher]

Just saw the movie

Loved every second of it.

So much better than force awakens

[LinearPhilosopher]

Best of all, i find it offers a seamless transition to ep4. I think this movie will become the new starting point for watching the franchise.


also can someone more familiar with SW EU explain to me why the rebel alliance has one of these

http://starwars.wiki...d-class_cruiser

In their fleet? Makes no sense.

This post has been edited by LinearPhilosopher: 24 December 2016 - 05:57 AM

[Traveller]

They were based on the ones in KotoR, and stolen in an episode of Rebels.

Another nice link.

This post has been edited by Traveller: 24 December 2016 - 07:06 AM

[QuickTidal]

LinearPhilosopher, on 24 December 2016 - 05:08 AM, said:

Best of all, i find it offers a seamless transition to ep4. I think this movie will become the new starting point for watching the franchise.


also can someone more familiar with SW EU explain to me why the rebel alliance has one of these

http://starwars.wiki...d-class_cruiser

In their fleet? Makes no sense.

What Traveller said. When the Alliance was still young (REBELS era), Princess Leia (then about 13) delivered three old KotoR-era Hammerhead cruisers to the Rebellion. This would be one of those. Though old, they were refurbished for use by the Alliance.

[Cause]

Future Tech is amazing!

A starship that is still in use over a millennia after it was designed! The universe of starwars is really frozen in time.

[QuickTidal]

Cause, on 24 December 2016 - 02:11 PM, said:

Future Tech is amazing!

A starship that is still in use over a millennia after it was designed! The universe of starwars is really frozen in time.

Sorry, my mistake. These are Hammerhead Corvette's, which are Galactic Imperial era cruisers based on the original Hammerhead designs, which were in the Imperial archives schematics.

But tell me, is there some reason a well upkept ship can't somehow last 2000 years after they were built?

[LinearPhilosopher]

QuickTidal, on 24 December 2016 - 02:20 PM, said:

Cause, on 24 December 2016 - 02:11 PM, said:

Future Tech is amazing!

A starship that is still in use over a millennia after it was designed! The universe of starwars is really frozen in time.

Sorry, my mistake. These are Hammerhead Corvette's, which are Galactic Imperial era cruisers based on the original Hammerhead designs, which were in the Imperial archives schematics.

But tell me, is there some reason a well upkept ship can't somehow last 2000 years after they were built?

2000 years ago the most advance ship of western civ was the trireme.

Even if i ignore threes no sea salt in space to wear away at the armor, i just have difficulty fathoming in 2kyear ship still being relevant.

Still if its refurbished makes sense as all you need is a metal frame to use the armamenets and shields.

Traveller, on 24 December 2016 - 07:04 AM, said:

They were based on the ones in KotoR, and stolen in an episode of Rebels.

Another nice link.

ahhh explains to me why i thought i had asked that question some time earlier.

This post has been edited by LinearPhilosopher: 24 December 2016 - 02:35 PM

[Whisperzzzzzzz]

death rattle, on 24 December 2016 - 03:39 AM, said:

(Haven't read any of your reactions yet)

Spoiler

I enjoyed it quite a bit. It was a little dim visually, so much so that I thought it might be a technical issue, but the beach scenes were A-Ok so I guess it was a style choice. The action/adventure stuff here was really solid, and the characters were all a pleasure to watch. I do think it felt like a good beginning and a good ending fused together, but was missing a middle act that should have bonded the characters more. Like when Baze calls Jyn "little sister" it doesn't feel earned in terms of how little they've gone through together. So yah the movie could have stood to be 20 or 30 minutes longer, imo. I guess my only other complaint was that Baze should have had a bigger blaze-of-glory moment at the end too. That's a scene where the emotions actually work and feel earned but the action doesn't quite rise to the moment. I liked that the villains were primarily the Empire as an entity and an ambitious functionary.

It was just a very straightforward, well-executed romp. Anyone else call it the "Dancer's Lament" of Star Wars yet? Overall I'd give it an enthusiastic B.

I agree with this. It felt like some bonding was skipped over.

I also thought that

Spoiler

Saw Gererra

ended up being a sort of pointless character. Similar to Maz Kanata in TFA. Otherwise, it was one of the best SW movies by a long distance. At least in the top 3. Tight and highly impactful.

Despite watching for it, I missed

Spoiler

Chopper. But I did spot Ghost! And most of the other cameos too. This is how cameos should be done, if they must be done. Ponda Babba and his associate seen in Jedha was a nice surprise.

This post has been edited by Whisperzzzzzzz: 24 December 2016 - 08:37 PM

[Grief]

death rattle, on 24 December 2016 - 03:39 AM, said:

(Haven't read any of your reactions yet)

Spoiler

I do think it felt like a good beginning and a good ending fused together, but was missing a middle act that should have bonded the characters more.

Spoiler

Thirding this view. Though I seem to have a lower opinion of the film compared to most of you, I agree that the opening and ending were stronger than the middle. Particularly the opening imo; the childhood segment and the start of the scene in the work camp (before the rescue) were both good. Though in hindsight I wonder if some of my issues with the film stem from feeling a bit of a mismatch between the tone set by these early scenes and the direction the film then takes. I agree that more time spent with a narrower focus on character interactions would have been good (though this is getting into my general gripes with the film), and think that it might also have benefitted from cutting from location to location (and action set piece to action set piece) less.

[Whisperzzzzzzz]

Briar King, on 25 December 2016 - 01:19 AM, said:

This is one of the reasons I really need to rewatch. Did the

Spoiler

Mon Cal crew say anything about making an escape or suicide? That's a large load of POWs that could talk about Yavin under torture, but the timeline from RO to ANH is prob just a few hrs/day long gap so they could prob just shrug their shoulders at that plot hole. Maybe the DVD will address this in the features cause it's def a hmmmm moment having to track MF to Yavin with an entire crew of POWs.

The people on the planet

Spoiler

all died. There were no POWs.

[Silencer]

Whisperzzzzzzz, on 25 December 2016 - 06:14 AM, said:

Briar King, on 25 December 2016 - 01:19 AM, said:

This is one of the reasons I really need to rewatch. Did the

Spoiler

Mon Cal crew say anything about making an escape or suicide? That's a large load of POWs that could talk about Yavin under torture, but the timeline from RO to ANH is prob just a few hrs/day long gap so they could prob just shrug their shoulders at that plot hole. Maybe the DVD will address this in the features cause it's def a hmmmm moment having to track MF to Yavin with an entire crew of POWs.

The people on the planet

Spoiler

all died. There were no POWs.

I think BK meant

Spoiler

The crew on the disabled Rebel flagship that Vader boarded - there's presumably a whole bunch of Rebels on that ship, who could have been taken alive and therefore talked about the base on Yavin IV they left from.
It's a plot hole because unless everyone on that ship dies or resists interrogation, finding the location of the Rebel base in A New Hope shouldn't have relied on Leia or the tracking beacon on the Falcon at all.
Personally I just assumed all the crew died, or otherwise refused to talk like Leia and Poe... Don't think Imperial torture has a good track record in this series honestly. XD