[Macros]

morning.

Im going to say something massively contraversial.

I feel sorry for Khell, he can't do anything without being screamed at and jumped on, why? because he has the temerity to be a good player? to have the sheer gall to win some games as a killer? heaven forfend, the man played mafia! how dare he!

how often are we hamstrung by bad town play (myself very much included here) most times scum win because we fuck up.

Tatts says his logical vote is JPK, the says he wants to lynch khell just because. keep your grudges until you are a killer. and shoot them in the face.

Town play is trying to make logical moves to benefit us all. Not crying, B b b b but khells so sneaky he set me up for a fall one time he was a killer.
so the fuck what, if that's the case everyone here is probably candidate for a petty vengeance lynch. unless you are copping a direct correlation between a players actions in this game, and how they played in another game, the past is fucking irrelevant.

grow up and play the game

[Tattersail_]

Itwæs Nom, on 21 February 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 21 February 2017 - 09:25 AM, said:

I am caught up. Tattersail is now Live.

Logical choice indicates I should vote for JPK, (including that post by Andorion)

How does Andos post support that choice?

That post by Ando is so off, he is agreeing with what Mess is saying about my approach yet chooses two examples that are totally the opposite, I can only conclude that he is signalling.

[Tattersail_]

Macros, on 21 February 2017 - 09:41 AM, said:

morning.

Im going to say something massively contraversial.

I feel sorry for Khell, he can't do anything without being screamed at and jumped on, why? because he has the temerity to be a good player? to have the sheer gall to win some games as a killer? heaven forfend, the man played mafia! how dare he!

how often are we hamstrung by bad town play (myself very much included here) most times scum win because we fuck up.

Tatts says his logical vote is JPK, the says he wants to lynch khell just because. keep your grudges until you are a killer. and shoot them in the face.

Town play is trying to make logical moves to benefit us all. Not crying, B b b b but khells so sneaky he set me up for a fall one time he was a killer.
so the fuck what, if that's the case everyone here is probably candidate for a petty vengeance lynch. unless you are copping a direct correlation between a players actions in this game, and how they played in another game, the past is fucking irrelevant.

grow up and play the game

This whole post aimed at me and the thread, or just your thoughts?

I mean Khell "could" be scum, I am not ruling that out, and there are 5 people on his train who think that could be the case. If we lynch JPK today I doubt we will have an opportunity to lynch Khell in the future because you would have to believe he is scum 100% to go after him a second time. At least a clean CF from Khell will add weight to his "case" on JPK, whereas a clean CF of JPK would only add to the WIFOM surrounding Khell. That is what we are facing.

[Khellendros]

I would just like to point out something.

[Macros]

it aimed at the thread in general.

JPK has, pathetically imo, tried to justify his vote beyond OMG KHELL MUST DIE. but he is the only one with any vested interest in the lynch as he is the alternative. SO i'm taking that with a pinch of salt.

I don't think not lynching Khell today precludes ever lynching him. I am not trying to clear the man, not in any shape or form. but this mindless pogrom is detrimental to town. him flipping scum is simply a mathematical chance at the minute. we may as well just pull a name form a hate and scream for his head.

[Tattersail_]

Macros, on 21 February 2017 - 10:01 AM, said:

it aimed at the thread in general.

JPK has, pathetically imo, tried to justify his vote beyond OMG KHELL MUST DIE. but he is the only one with any vested interest in the lynch as he is the alternative. SO i'm taking that with a pinch of salt.

I don't think not lynching Khell today precludes ever lynching him. I am not trying to clear the man, not in any shape or form. but this mindless pogrom is detrimental to town. him flipping scum is simply a mathematical chance at the minute. we may as well just pull a name form a hate and scream for his head.

I agree with you, I am still wondering about JPK "claiming" to set up Khell.

[Khellendros]

JPK, on 21 February 2017 - 01:16 AM, said:

Alright guys, you're saying that there is no case on Khell. I'll lay it out for those of you that need it gift-wrapped.

He's Khell, and he's being loud and attracting attention on day one. He's not hiding and trying to stay out of the spotlight. Now, I know that I don't have the years worth of interplay with him that some of you do, but over the games that I have played with him, I have noticed that whenever Khell is loud and active in the early game stages he's either RI or he's Scum. He intentionally plays the two roles very similarly. To add to that, whenever he has had a town role, he has hidden for the first couple of days so that he can get maximum use out of the role. I'm also not seeing a certain amount of smugness that I'm used to seeing out of him whenever he's roled.

Now, JPK, how much choice was actually given to me about how quiet/loud to play considering how the game was going even before I first posted?

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 21 February 2017 - 10:00 AM, said:

I would just like to point out something.

It best be your love of me!

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 21 February 2017 - 10:04 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 21 February 2017 - 10:00 AM, said:

I would just like to point out something.

It best be your love of me!

Come on Tatts, that doesn't require stating.

[Tattersail_]

I have had a bit of a think and my mafia head has taken the best of action.

remove vote
Vote JPK

[Siergiej]

I don't buy Nom's explanation of that scummy, hedging post he made after his case on JPK. But it doesn't change the fact that JPK is indeed the likeliest scum right now. His case on Khell is a joke and his latch on the 'so-called sliip' shows that he'd be happy to hold on to a turd if only it was flung Khell's way. That's where I'm gonna vote for now.


Mac's moral high ground rubs me the wrong way, too.

vote JPK

[Tattersail_]

remove vote


We have a bit of time left in the day, I'll remove to take him off L1 for now.

[Tattersail_]

I want to hear more from Andorion.

[Mentalist]

Something about Mess is rubbing me the wrong way in all this. Busy this morning, but in 2-4 hours I should be back in the office and have some time to try to figure out what.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 14 hours 7 minutes remaining

Players still alive: (JPK, Nom, Ment, Tatts, Khell, HD, Blend, Ando, Messremb, SiergieJ, Mac, Bubba)

12 players alive. 7 votes to lynch, 6 to go night.

5 votes Khell (Blend, Bubba, Messremb, JPK, HD)
5 votes JPK (Khell, Mac, Nom, Ment, SiergieJ)




Players not voted: (Ando, Tatts)

[Andorion]

So Tatts is finally here.

Good. That barrage of posts by him actually makes me happy, including the silly one about me signalling.

I agree with Macros. Going after Khell because he is Khell makes no sense.

Frankly it looks like a soft lynch option for JPK on Day 1. Khell is always controversial, and a lynch train on him, plus all the confusion in this super-high posting day 1 will I think totally confuse Day 2. Or that's what scum is hoping for.

[Siergiej]

Mentalist, on 21 February 2017 - 12:49 PM, said:

Something about Mess is rubbing me the wrong way in all this. Busy this morning, but in 2-4 hours I should be back in the office and have some time to try to figure out what.

Agreed. I pointed out before that his eagerness to jump in every time Blend came back to his crusade but waiting a long time to put a vote behind this looks spooky.

Also, it doesn't look like anyone is considering Blend for scum. Is it because we just collectively assumed that he is more likely to be a madman than a killer?

[Andorion]

Andorion, on 21 February 2017 - 05:47 AM, said:

Practically every vote on Khell falls into the OMGUK category (OMG U R Khell!!!!)

I am not convinced.

Messremb, on 20 February 2017 - 09:15 PM, said:

Since we're getting to a more serious state of play than the earlier shenanigans;

Tatts. Normally he's all over thread getting reactions from people. My sense of him this game has been that he's not been looking at people which strikes me as odd. What do other people think?

Mess makes a point I was considering myself. Tatts should be doing what Blend and JPK are doing, but he isn't.

Interesting.

Tattersail_, on 21 February 2017 - 09:47 AM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 21 February 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 21 February 2017 - 09:25 AM, said:

I am caught up. Tattersail is now Live.

Logical choice indicates I should vote for JPK, (including that post by Andorion)

How does Andos post support that choice?

That post by Ando is so off, he is agreeing with what Mess is saying about my approach yet chooses two examples that are totally the opposite, I can only conclude that he is signalling.

I meant I expect you to be all over the thread making cases with very flimsy basis It is Day 1 after all.

[Itwæs Nom]

Andorion, on 21 February 2017 - 01:20 PM, said:

Andorion, on 21 February 2017 - 05:47 AM, said:

Practically every vote on Khell falls into the OMGUK category (OMG U R Khell!!!!)

I am not convinced.

Messremb, on 20 February 2017 - 09:15 PM, said:

Since we're getting to a more serious state of play than the earlier shenanigans;

Tatts. Normally he's all over thread getting reactions from people. My sense of him this game has been that he's not been looking at people which strikes me as odd. What do other people think?

Mess makes a point I was considering myself. Tatts should be doing what Blend and JPK are doing, but he isn't.

Interesting.

Tattersail_, on 21 February 2017 - 09:47 AM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 21 February 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

Tattersail_, on 21 February 2017 - 09:25 AM, said:

I am caught up. Tattersail is now Live.

Logical choice indicates I should vote for JPK, (including that post by Andorion)

How does Andos post support that choice?

That post by Ando is so off, he is agreeing with what Mess is saying about my approach yet chooses two examples that are totally the opposite, I can only conclude that he is signalling.

I meant I expect you to be all over the thread making cases with very flimsy basis It is Day 1 after all.

Labeling it signalling was off, but I guess that was indeed just the Tatts you wanted.

Siergiej, on 21 February 2017 - 01:16 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 21 February 2017 - 12:49 PM, said:

Something about Mess is rubbing me the wrong way in all this. Busy this morning, but in 2-4 hours I should be back in the office and have some time to try to figure out what.

Agreed. I pointed out before that his eagerness to jump in every time Blend came back to his crusade but waiting a long time to put a vote behind this looks spooky.

Also, it doesn't look like anyone is considering Blend for scum. Is it because we just collectively assumed that he is more likely to be a madman than a killer?

There was a short discussion about that yesterday, missed it?

Mentalist, on 21 February 2017 - 12:49 PM, said:

Something about Mess is rubbing me the wrong way in all this. Busy this morning, but in 2-4 hours I should be back in the office and have some time to try to figure out what.

Yeah I've been curious if/when he was gonna retrospectively support his vote or do something serious with it, some of his posts make it look like he was actually interested in what is going on here but his vote (

Messremb, on 20 February 2017 - 05:38 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 20 February 2017 - 05:36 PM, said:

I fail to see the slip.

If we told you you'd know what not to do again...

Vote Khell

) stays the same

Was it just me or did the forum just crash for 10 seconds?

[Siergiej]

Itwæs Nom, on 21 February 2017 - 01:47 PM, said:

Siergiej, on 21 February 2017 - 01:16 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 21 February 2017 - 12:49 PM, said:

Something about Mess is rubbing me the wrong way in all this. Busy this morning, but in 2-4 hours I should be back in the office and have some time to try to figure out what.

Agreed. I pointed out before that his eagerness to jump in every time Blend came back to his crusade but waiting a long time to put a vote behind this looks spooky.

Also, it doesn't look like anyone is considering Blend for scum. Is it because we just collectively assumed that he is more likely to be a madman than a killer?

There was a short discussion about that yesterday, missed it?

I vaguely recall someone suggesting that Blend is possibly just an honest townie who happens to be very useful to scum - a train of thought I'm tentatively accepting. If there was more, I didn't notice. Will look for it in the evening when I have more time.