Game thread 131.5 The List, the list
#661
Posted 29 April 2016 - 12:27 PM
Khell is fighting slippery and hard. This is why we never let him get to day 3.
vote khell
vote khell
"You don't clean u other peoples messes.... You roll in them like a dog on leftover smoked whitefish torn out f the trash by raccoons after Sunday brunch on a hot day."
~Abyss
~Abyss
#662
Posted 29 April 2016 - 12:30 PM
HiddenOne, on 29 April 2016 - 12:25 PM, said:
I've just done a super fast catch up. I'm glad scum got hit, and I think the theory of 2 independent killers with a common symp is a pretty plausible idea.
Khell, are you possibly over-reacting to the insistent theme that you must be scum since you are alive? I admit that I usually try to resist boilerplate thinking, but these things become rote for a reason.
Well, I read too fast to even know where to reply, let me work a while and get back.
Khell, are you possibly over-reacting to the insistent theme that you must be scum since you are alive? I admit that I usually try to resist boilerplate thinking, but these things become rote for a reason.
Well, I read too fast to even know where to reply, let me work a while and get back.
No, I am used to it and I expect it. But I don't expect whole cases to be made up on that basis alone or votes cast because of that. Even if I was scum (which I'm not) I would say that that's poor and lazy play. To give Tatts credit, at least he's not doing it on that basis. Well, he might be, because in my opinion his case is extremely poor, but at least he's not outright stating it as such.
"I think I've made a terrible error of judgement."
#663
Posted 29 April 2016 - 12:31 PM
Just Plain Kitsu, on 26 April 2016 - 02:33 PM, said:
Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 02:29 PM, said:
12 hours into the game and the only remarkable thing happening is the lynch train developing on me as I have profaned the sacred mafia alter of "Touch not the game mechanics". Also because people aren't finding anything else voteworthy yet.
Most interesting thing to me? Tatts lightning swift volte face regarding same issue when I was challenged.
Hmmm. Couple that with a divergence from his usual style of play and its quite quite suspicious.
Most interesting thing to me? Tatts lightning swift volte face regarding same issue when I was challenged.
Hmmm. Couple that with a divergence from his usual style of play and its quite quite suspicious.
Pointing straight back at Tatts already?
Vote Andorion
You know this post by Kitsu, keeping in mind that he is new, could it be read as a reflex action to defend his partner?
#664
Posted 29 April 2016 - 12:32 PM
Tattersail_, on 29 April 2016 - 09:47 AM, said:
Andorion, on 29 April 2016 - 09:35 AM, said:
Tapper, on 29 April 2016 - 07:42 AM, said:
Coltaine93, on 29 April 2016 - 07:31 AM, said:
With just two independent two killers and a symp, the game could be balanced. Scum to town ratio would be wrong, of course, but this could be offset by having two kills a night. In town's advantage is the risk of a cross-fire.
My first thought to explain the 2 NKs on night 1 was a vig who got so excited they blew their load straight away (worst moment to do so in terms of odds).
But I am not sure about that now. There's only one kill and the result is scum (and one that wasn't getting scrutiny at all). Two teams of one killer each who have to eliminate one another might be it. I don;t think it is two teams of two - because then, why wasn't the second kill processed? Maybe resolution was through the principle of when a guard guards a guard, the guarded guard is guarded, killing the second killer before they could kill. Maybe we have an independent serial killer - but then, I'd expect still paired killers, so scum still should kill. It is a bit of a puzzle, tbh.
Two independent killers and a symp does not confirm the "Non-standard" role mentioned in the OP.
Also Tapper really blew up at Tatts here.
I'll add this to his mechanic talk, 2 independent scum killers that didn't know each other with a symp who knew each of them and a town vig (which is a non standard role)
Scum alternate their kills as we have seen that before.
Kitsu night one targeted Siergiej
Town Vig targeted Messremb
Night two is a puzzle because if Khell picked up on the signal then why would he have killed Kitsu?
Maybe he either did not pick up on it, or he took one of the other people in the message as his partner?
It won't be the first time Khell screws up his own faction, he's done it multiple times including last game when he lynched his team mate.
Not sure, I'd like to hear more from others about this.
Back and reading up... Why are we assuming there was a town vig? Maybe just 2 independent killers?
"If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?" - Shylock
#665
Posted 29 April 2016 - 12:33 PM
Andorion, on 29 April 2016 - 12:31 PM, said:
Just Plain Kitsu, on 26 April 2016 - 02:33 PM, said:
Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 02:29 PM, said:
12 hours into the game and the only remarkable thing happening is the lynch train developing on me as I have profaned the sacred mafia alter of "Touch not the game mechanics". Also because people aren't finding anything else voteworthy yet.
Most interesting thing to me? Tatts lightning swift volte face regarding same issue when I was challenged.
Hmmm. Couple that with a divergence from his usual style of play and its quite quite suspicious.
Most interesting thing to me? Tatts lightning swift volte face regarding same issue when I was challenged.
Hmmm. Couple that with a divergence from his usual style of play and its quite quite suspicious.
Pointing straight back at Tatts already?
Vote Andorion
You know this post by Kitsu, keeping in mind that he is new, could it be read as a reflex action to defend his partner?
We are going on the assumption they didn't know their partners
"You don't clean u other peoples messes.... You roll in them like a dog on leftover smoked whitefish torn out f the trash by raccoons after Sunday brunch on a hot day."
~Abyss
~Abyss
#666
Posted 29 April 2016 - 12:34 PM
Gust Hubb, on 29 April 2016 - 12:27 PM, said:
Khell is fighting slippery and hard. This is why we never let him get to day 3.
vote khell
vote khell
I'd be fighting like this whatever role I had. Otherwise I wouldn't bother playing. You guys can do what you want, I've said my piece and I think I've refuted the points pretty well.
I'm going to travel, work, and then come back to find someone to make a case on. Someone who I think will make a good case for scum.
Incidentally, I'm not wholly convinced by two independent killers and a symp. In a 17-person game, that seems set too difficult for scum.
"I think I've made a terrible error of judgement."
#667
Posted 29 April 2016 - 12:54 PM
Quote
Incidentally, I'm not wholly convinced by two independent killers and a symp. In a 17-person game, that seems set too difficult for scum.
crying it in already
Apt is the only one who reads this. Apt is nice.
#668
Posted 29 April 2016 - 12:57 PM
Tattersail_, on 29 April 2016 - 08:58 AM, said:
Possible signal to either Khell or Macros. I've said this. This is Mess' first vote.
Possible first signal to Kitsu
Fuck me. If and I know nothing is certain until we see the CF's but if Messremb was trying to signal both killers then this is it.
Many might consider lynching you to be good luck

Note for JPK, Siergiej and Dhenrabi, genuine truth - if Khell is alive on Day 3 then he is scum
Another note: in un-alted mafia some old grudges occasionally get settled
Also, Day 1 votes can be extremely random. Example:
Remove Vote
You'd consider voting Trump for anything? Clearly scummy
Vote JPK
Lynches have run off of far less than that.
So
Remove Vote
Are we going to be serious today or whimsical?
Why do you think it is a Town role? It could be scum, it could be independent.
OMGUS?
Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 02:19 AM, said:
Woo game thread.
Vote Khellendros
Because Macros and Venge have a point...
Vote Khellendros
Because Macros and Venge have a point...
Possible first signal to Kitsu
Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 02:26 AM, said:
Fuck me. If and I know nothing is certain until we see the CF's but if Messremb was trying to signal both killers then this is it.
Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 09:34 AM, said:
Khellendros, on 26 April 2016 - 07:52 AM, said:
Many might consider lynching you to be good luck


Note for JPK, Siergiej and Dhenrabi, genuine truth - if Khell is alive on Day 3 then he is scum
Another note: in un-alted mafia some old grudges occasionally get settled
Also, Day 1 votes can be extremely random. Example:
Remove Vote
Just Plain Kitsu, on 26 April 2016 - 04:35 AM, said:
You know, if the voting system was actually for lynching - with the last candidate standing getting the position - I'll bet we'd have much larger voter turnout here. Besides that's the only way I can imagine voting Trump.
You'd consider voting Trump for anything? Clearly scummy
Vote JPK
Lynches have run off of far less than that.
So
Remove Vote
Are we going to be serious today or whimsical?
Khellendros, on 26 April 2016 - 07:55 AM, said:
2) You want us to speculate on town roles. That's interesting.
Why do you think it is a Town role? It could be scum, it could be independent.
Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 08:21 AM, said:
Soo lets see, Day 1:
1. Standard nonsential conversation: Check
2. Joke voting: Check
3. Suspicion of player speculating on game roles: Check
4. Accusation of signalling and symping: Waiting on this one.
5. Lynch Bubba:Inevitable
1. Standard nonsential conversation: Check
2. Joke voting: Check
3. Suspicion of player speculating on game roles: Check
4. Accusation of signalling and symping: Waiting on this one.
5. Lynch Bubba:
OMGUS?
Someone else said that Mess wouldn't do obvious day 1 signalling, but since JPK is new to mafia he could have thought he had to lay it on thick.
"If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?" - Shylock
#669
Posted 29 April 2016 - 12:59 PM
My coffee hasn't kicked in yet and I need to get ready for work. I'll look at this more on the train.
"If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?" - Shylock
#670
Posted 29 April 2016 - 02:31 PM
Blend, on 27 April 2016 - 08:22 PM, said:
Curse you new players! I don't remember which one of you it was, or if it was more than one of you even, but one of the new players at least was making some very good arguments yesterday - if that player was Sergiej, that could very well be the reason he was killed.
One thing, though - everyone is assuming a Vig - I was about to say it could be a Faceless Man, but that's not possible without playing in game alts...
So other things it COULD be is a Serial Killer, though usually a SK is announced in the OP.
Guess it's not a stretch that there's a vig in game. If that's the case, I'd say that Messremb was likely the vig's target. I know that if I had gotten the vig role, I probably couldn't have resisted from killing off Mess.
One thing, though - everyone is assuming a Vig - I was about to say it could be a Faceless Man, but that's not possible without playing in game alts...
So other things it COULD be is a Serial Killer, though usually a SK is announced in the OP.
Guess it's not a stretch that there's a vig in game. If that's the case, I'd say that Messremb was likely the vig's target. I know that if I had gotten the vig role, I probably couldn't have resisted from killing off Mess.
Blend, on 27 April 2016 - 08:26 PM, said:
Siergiej, on 26 April 2016 - 06:54 PM, said:
I'm also not convinced by the Andorion mentioned mechanics therefore scum thinking, so I'm leaning towards suspecting one of the people who jumped on the lynching Andorion bandwagon, as an easy way to quickly kill off a townie. These people are:
Nom, HiddenOne, Kitsu
Nom, HiddenOne, Kitsu
This, for example, was a very astute note - obviously ItWasn'tNom, but one of our killers could be HO or Kitsu panicking at being named, and deciding we might as well off the person who noticed it.
Of course, I'm more inclined to think that the kills had nothing to do with yesterday's cases... Just kills of opportunity.
So uh, I was looking at Blend, basically because unlike Tatts or Khell he has stayed off everybodys radar and I found this.
Doesn't it strike anyone as odd?
Will continue to look at Blend
#671
Posted 29 April 2016 - 02:54 PM
Gust Hubb, on 29 April 2016 - 12:27 PM, said:
Khell is fighting slippery and hard. This is why we never let him get to day 3.
vote khell
vote khell
Sorry Gust, but I really don't understand this vote, apart from being actually being an execution of the zomg-Khell-must-be-scum joke, in which case it falls flat considering the state of the game. I also don't really see how Khell is fighting to defend himself, exactly. Sounds more like he's against better judgement spelling things out for the thread.
Everyone is entitled to his own wrong opinion. - Lizrad
#672
Posted 29 April 2016 - 02:55 PM
Andorion, on 29 April 2016 - 02:31 PM, said:
Blend, on 27 April 2016 - 08:22 PM, said:
Curse you new players! I don't remember which one of you it was, or if it was more than one of you even, but one of the new players at least was making some very good arguments yesterday - if that player was Sergiej, that could very well be the reason he was killed.
One thing, though - everyone is assuming a Vig - I was about to say it could be a Faceless Man, but that's not possible without playing in game alts...
So other things it COULD be is a Serial Killer, though usually a SK is announced in the OP.
Guess it's not a stretch that there's a vig in game. If that's the case, I'd say that Messremb was likely the vig's target. I know that if I had gotten the vig role, I probably couldn't have resisted from killing off Mess.
One thing, though - everyone is assuming a Vig - I was about to say it could be a Faceless Man, but that's not possible without playing in game alts...
So other things it COULD be is a Serial Killer, though usually a SK is announced in the OP.
Guess it's not a stretch that there's a vig in game. If that's the case, I'd say that Messremb was likely the vig's target. I know that if I had gotten the vig role, I probably couldn't have resisted from killing off Mess.
Blend, on 27 April 2016 - 08:26 PM, said:
Siergiej, on 26 April 2016 - 06:54 PM, said:
I'm also not convinced by the Andorion mentioned mechanics therefore scum thinking, so I'm leaning towards suspecting one of the people who jumped on the lynching Andorion bandwagon, as an easy way to quickly kill off a townie. These people are:
Nom, HiddenOne, Kitsu
Nom, HiddenOne, Kitsu
This, for example, was a very astute note - obviously ItWasn'tNom, but one of our killers could be HO or Kitsu panicking at being named, and deciding we might as well off the person who noticed it.
Of course, I'm more inclined to think that the kills had nothing to do with yesterday's cases... Just kills of opportunity.
So uh, I was looking at Blend, basically because unlike Tatts or Khell he has stayed off everybodys radar and I found this.
Doesn't it strike anyone as odd?
Will continue to look at Blend
Blend has been somewhat understated this game. The vig thing is interesting - it might be his claim

Everyone is entitled to his own wrong opinion. - Lizrad
#673
Posted 29 April 2016 - 02:58 PM
You'll eat crow if he comes up scum T dawg 
Who would be your next suspect after me?

Who would be your next suspect after me?
Apt is the only one who reads this. Apt is nice.
#674
Posted 29 April 2016 - 03:23 PM
Hey folks, sorry for missing out on end of day. I'm reading up now - I saw in passing that Kitsu was NK'd and was scum? Seems odd! Hopefully a read up will provide a bit more info on that!
There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail - should we fall - we will know that we have lived. ~ Anomander Rake
My sig comes from a game in which I didn't heed Blend's advice. So maybe this time I should. ~ Khellendros
I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK
My sig comes from a game in which I didn't heed Blend's advice. So maybe this time I should. ~ Khellendros
I'm just going to have to come to terms with the fact that self-vote suiciding will forever be referred to as "pulling a JPK" now, aren't I? ~ JPK
#675
Posted 29 April 2016 - 04:08 PM
Since we don't seem to be getting anywhere, I have a suggestion.
This Tatts-Khell thing, which is mutating into a Tatts-Khell-Tapper thing is getting a lot of attention.
So why don't we lynch them all? One per game day, if one of them is scum, we win.
This Tatts-Khell thing, which is mutating into a Tatts-Khell-Tapper thing is getting a lot of attention.
So why don't we lynch them all? One per game day, if one of them is scum, we win.
#676
Posted 29 April 2016 - 04:34 PM
From Khell: I had to delete the quote block since I reached limit and I'm on my phone
Post # 558 between dashes
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At this late stage I'm not going to bother looking at HO, as others have done that already anyway. But let's take a look at Kitsu.What strikes me is that Kitsu's suspicions seem almost all to stem from that initial mechanics discussion. Like, they've been told it's suspicious to do, so by gum they're going to find it suspicious! As such, Kitsu's focus is pretty much all Ando, Tatts, and Macros.First votes Ando, based on that role talk and interaction.Pointing straight back at Tatts already?Vote AndorionFollowed fairly swiftly some three hours or so later by a removal, citing a reread has changed their mind.Alright, just so I'm not laser focusing on only Tatts, who all hasn't posted yet?I don't remember seeing much from ADL, nor from Kitsu, but they both do have a few posts... If I'm not remembering much, chances are their input wasn't very spectacular.Aside from that, seems everyone's had a few things to say, so that's good! Haven't had this active a Day 1 in a M&P in a while, really! Loving it so far!I actually threw in a vote earlier this morning, but I've been in reading the wall of text. I'm currently of the conclusion that my earlier vote for Ando may have been a gut reaction. I want to read over the wall again, but I'll be in here pretty much all day today.For now:Remove VoteSo after that Kitsu moves on to Macros, which is basically where they've stayed more or less since. This is a bit of a reversal, since Kitsu's now going after one of those who attacked Ando, and doing so for attacking Ando. There's more to it than that, Kitsu also mentions Mac's apparent vote-hopping as another reason. But it's still somewhat of an about-face.So, my attention keeps jumping back into this timeline that Siergiej helpfully put together. The bit that's sticking out to me the strongest are numbers 3&8. Macros was the first one to point a finger at Ando and started that train rolling. A bit of time goes by, and then he jumps onto the newly started Tatts train. A great shot at sowing chaos and creating factions.Vote MacrosStill on Mac, and suggests he could be linked to...both kills? As I said before, I don't put much stock behind early kill speculation, for exactly this reason: ultimately anyone could be linked to any kill if you generalise enough.I'm going to reference my earlier post and vote here. Macros helped start the Ando train, quickly jumped to the Tatter-Train, and vote-hopped at the end to help get Nom out. He's also a vet and that would make it reasonable for him to target either if the night kills. Mess cause we all know he's a strong player, or Sierg since he's a new unknown.Just putting it out there for thought.Is Kitsu the first one to suggest that Siergiej was killed because of the list? Although I suppose they did also use the list themselves earlier (when highlighting Macros for the first time) so perhaps makes sense it would be in their thoughts.We have on kill from the killers and one from the vig. Propably. Can a vig also be part of the scum? Assumption: Vig is from the townSo we have to take for both kills into account why the killers wanted to see them dead and why the vig could have thought that they are killers. If the vig is one of us we could lose another town member by killing him.I would guess that Mess was killed by the killers, maybe for being to helpful, or being to good as a player.And Sergiej had good posts. But I can't find a reason for someone to think he was part of the scum. So maybe reverse? Sergiej killed by killers and Mess by vig? Sergiej voted against Gust Hubb. Can't remember why. I will search the post.A reason for vig to target Sierg was the list. I think it was Bliss who pointed out "scum love lists"Below, states looking into Tapper, HO, and Bubba. I await the results with much anticipation.Gust, I'd love to not be riding this newbie role. Yeah, I pointed out Khell had the first vote of the game placed against him, but that's all I've said in that regard so far. I'm still looking into him. I know he's infamous for being devious around here. I have two current problems: 1- Having to repeat myself multiple times since others just don't seem to be reading my posts. (Example: Lady Bliss asking if I've played before when at the top of the page I clearly stated that I haven't. Same page even!" 2- Macros completely dodging fair questions I've placed his way TWICE now. Without even a mention. Which seems suspicious as hell to me.I'm also looking deeper into HO, Tapper, and Bubba at the moment. All three are vets that I'm under the impression are usually more active. I was accused of skating day one, but I feel like I still piped up at least as much as these three. Well, maybe not Tapper. The short time Tapper was on, a lot of light seemed to be shed on a couple of subjects.So from this read up I mostly get the sense that Kitsu is new
In seriousness, I suspect that the attachment to Ando and then Mac via stated suspicion of Tatts all stems from that very first conversation about roles and mechanics. There's poking and prodding, but Mac is correct to point out that there's little direct questioning. If they're scum they're playing it well. Or they're just a new townie, hesitant about how to go about things. I don't know, nothing particularly screams at me, but that in itself migh be disconcerting. I might just place my vote here anyway, though I would have liked to have done this earlier and see how they react to pressure. I'm not particularly convinced by the HO case, and Tatts is...well, I can't decide if he's being Tatts or Tatts pretending to be Tatts.
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So I just painstakingly read the last 24 hours worth of post, assuming that scum don't know each other and genuinely thought JPK was town. This post of Lhell's stood out to me because although he analyzed JPK and then decided he was likely a noob.
That said, if Khell is the killer, I don't think he would have connected himself to JPK so blatantly. But who knows the mind of Khell?!
I'm thinking it will be someone that hasn't really mentioned him though. Have to reread a few folks .
Edit: added Khell's post # 558 which is between dashes
Post # 558 between dashes
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At this late stage I'm not going to bother looking at HO, as others have done that already anyway. But let's take a look at Kitsu.What strikes me is that Kitsu's suspicions seem almost all to stem from that initial mechanics discussion. Like, they've been told it's suspicious to do, so by gum they're going to find it suspicious! As such, Kitsu's focus is pretty much all Ando, Tatts, and Macros.First votes Ando, based on that role talk and interaction.
Just Plain Kitsu, on 26 April 2016 - 02:33 PM, said:
Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 02:29 PM, said:
12 hours into the game and the only remarkable thing happening is the lynch train developing on me as I have profaned the sacred mafia alter of "Touch not the game mechanics". Also because people aren't finding anything else voteworthy yet. Most interesting thing to me? Tatts lightning swift volte face regarding same issue when I was challenged. Hmmm. Couple that with a divergence from his usual style of play and its quite quite suspicious.
Just Plain Kitsu, on 26 April 2016 - 05:15 PM, said:
Blend, on 26 April 2016 - 05:05 PM, said:
Gnaw, on 26 April 2016 - 02:09 AM, said:
ADLAndorionBlendBlissBubbaColtain93DhenrabiGustyHOItwas NomKhellKitsuMacrosMessSergiejTapperTatts
Just Plain Kitsu, on 26 April 2016 - 11:39 PM, said:
Siergiej, on 26 April 2016 - 09:48 PM, said:
Andorion v Tatts looks like the point of contention for Day 1 and admittedly the core of my own reasoning from the previous post, so I went back and looked and how it unfolded (this timeline is limited to the Androion-Tattersail situation):
- Andorion starts speculating about mechanics
- Tatts joins the speculation
- In the next post Macros throws accusation at Andorion because of that speculation
- Khell joins and points fingers at Andorion
- Tattersail votes Andorion
- Nom votes Andorion
- Dhenrabi votes Tatts
- Macros votes Tatts
- HiddenOne comes back to Macros' post that started the whole debate and votes Andorion
- JPK votes Andorion
- Gust votes Tatts
- Dhenrabi removes vote against Tatts
- Tatts removes vote against Andorion and votes Blend
- JPK removes vote against Andorion
Just Plain Kitsu, on 27 April 2016 - 07:14 PM, said:
Andorion, on 27 April 2016 - 06:13 PM, said:
Damn I am way too tired to deal with this right now. Khell started the train on Nom and Macros, Bliss and LB were in at the end. One of these could quite possibly be scum I guess?I am going to bed. Maybe things will look better in the morning
Just Plain Kitsu, on 27 April 2016 - 07:24 PM, said:
Coltaine93, on 27 April 2016 - 07:20 PM, said:
Bubba, on 27 April 2016 - 07:03 PM, said:
Well that sucks 3RI goneThe lynch? Day one is all I can say about that. Everyone is looking at the train, I'm more interested in who wasn't on it. The best hiding place on a train is never getting on in the first place.Mess? Grudge killing? taking out the helpful players? I'm willing to bet Mess was high up on a few lists.Sergiej? Who said we should kill/lynch the new players? I remember reading that. Kell?
Just Plain Kitsu, on 28 April 2016 - 03:31 AM, said:
Gust Hubb, on 28 April 2016 - 03:21 AM, said:
Ok, so here is the list of people that really need a deeper look: Lady Bliss, ADL, JPK, and Coltaine. I just finished the read through and the below is the best post from Bliss.Rarely belligerent and more in for a joke grudge on Nom, Bliss is laying low (which is a pattern with her I think, but this also makes her a dangerous one to ignore)I go to sleep and now have several pages to catch up again... My first thought here is wtf?! Mac mentions HO, then Ando, so then Tatts votes him in rapid succession?This is odd having Bliss stand up for HO as well. I think she is after Macros (who has seemed a lot more cheery than I remember him), but there is a lot of alarm over HO in both directions. It's a good distraction, but whether it is a distraction away from someone else's guilt or HO's role, I am not sure.JPK is riding the newb role a bit hard, and I agree with Khell that we cannot just let them slide, even if Tapper ordered only puppies and rainbows for their first game. No, what I am worried about is one of our newbs is getting outside coaching from a more experienced player and just playing up their inexperience (or hiding experience in the case of our sea caterpillar). And now JPK is turning the tables on Khell, an interesting approach to raise ire for the newbie hater...ADL is usually like this right? Shy, more like a quiet HO? Seriously, there is not much to go off of on the guy. I am really not sure what to do with him, but I don't like him tickling my paranoia...
Lady Bliss, on 26 April 2016 - 04:35 PM, said:
Ok, after skimming through I'm left with the following perceptions:1) my gut says Tatts is playing way too over the top to be a killer. I could see him more as a symp.2) Role speculation does stink. I feel like it just helps scum with trying to look like they are participating early, and can be a vehicle for scum to spot roled townies.3) Khell isn't posting enough.4) Tapper is posting more than I remember. I'll have to do a post count on the last couple of games to confirm.TBH I'm leaning towards Khell :)IOR Nom
remove voteI need to take a deeper dive in looking at posts.

Lady Bliss, on 27 April 2016 - 12:27 PM, said:
Macros, on 27 April 2016 - 08:44 AM, said:
Have done a sort of reread,well up to page 3 properly then a skip through, have work to do.That's page 3, at 40ppp, the way real mean read the forum.My scribbled notes from the first 3 pages yielded me this.If Andorion were silencer, Id vote for him right now for being too smooth. He calmly backtracks to aline his reasoning with other players, and happily joins in the light hearted banter where ever it appears, totally unflustered by attention he has garnered. But he's not, so I won't, for now. My main beef with Andorion was post #27, with less than 50% of players even checked in, 'lets.get srs' and starts role speculation, pro town role speculation.Then when Tatts follows up and says that we all want to be on the same page with game outline (paraphrased) And does a nice little semi reverse sidestep to aline with this a bit more. Not that it helps him, tatts still chases after And anyway.Mess, had the early doors joke on Khell, and has been almost nauseatingly helpful, even pointing out to newbs who usually dies etc, potential set up for survivor framing?? (rampant speculation)Tatts, ah tatts, still numero uno for me, and it nearly.all cycles back to that post on page one, 'lets get everyone on ehte same basic outline early doors (paraphrased) he backs up his suspicions of And by highlighting it was other players (me and khell) that were suspicious of And dorion, as if to say, see other guys picked it up.first, if we lynch him and he's town, well it was their fault (supposition by myself based on a purely theoretical chain of events)And HO. I'll have to go back and find the post by HO that annoyed me, it jumped off the page at me there but tying to multiwiote and stuff on the phone is just a no, hence the stream of discombobulated thoughts.TLDR - I am suspicious of several players for several reasons (it was nom, drive by vote on Andorion noted, page one hoping for a runaway bandwagon fueled by tatts, khell.and macros suspicions possibly? Further investigation required)Notably Andorion, Tatts, Mess and HO. Quick question, is there an easy way to see one players posts in the thread, like 'show me every post macros has made in this thread, only.macros' posts'?
Andorion, on 27 April 2016 - 08:47 AM, said:
Looking back, back HO seems to have jumped on pretty fast and then backed out again.
Tattersail_, on 27 April 2016 - 08:51 AM, said:
Remove voteFinished my read up, i'm leaning towards voting for HO, thanks to Sergei's case but also the way HO comes onto the thread, quotes a few people, votes Andorion, says he's finished his DKT style catch upYet he added no content, replied to a few quotes with cheeky one liners, and hurtfully didn't mention me once. Sounds bitchy doesn't it, but if you look, Andorion, Messremb, Tapper, Macros, Dhenrabi, had all mentioned me, quoted me and I'd been voted. He doesn't mention Ando's 2 votes on him, nothing mentioned by HO just a little vote on Ando which puts him number 3 on the train. He mentions Macros talking about Ando and mechanics but doesn't mention me talking about them. Skating by as usual. Vote HO
HiddenOne, on 26 April 2016 - 02:29 PM, said:
DKT style catch upTM is complete, so back to work - I'm out of time to slack off

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So I just painstakingly read the last 24 hours worth of post, assuming that scum don't know each other and genuinely thought JPK was town. This post of Lhell's stood out to me because although he analyzed JPK and then decided he was likely a noob.
That said, if Khell is the killer, I don't think he would have connected himself to JPK so blatantly. But who knows the mind of Khell?!
I'm thinking it will be someone that hasn't really mentioned him though. Have to reread a few folks .
Edit: added Khell's post # 558 which is between dashes
This post has been edited by Lady Bliss: 29 April 2016 - 04:37 PM
"If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?" - Shylock
#677
Posted 29 April 2016 - 04:58 PM
I can't search and multiquote on single users in my phone... Grrrr
Just did a read through on ADL. 15 posts of almost nothing. Mostly jokes. This guy is coasting way under the radar.
vote ADL
Just did a read through on ADL. 15 posts of almost nothing. Mostly jokes. This guy is coasting way under the radar.
vote ADL
"If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?" - Shylock
#678
Posted 29 April 2016 - 05:08 PM
Just a quick post from my phone to let everyone know that I am still alive. Shut got busy today and I won't have time to read up until tomorrow. I family stuff this evening.
#679
Posted 29 April 2016 - 05:13 PM
#680
Posted 29 April 2016 - 05:14 PM
A Demon Llama!, on 27 April 2016 - 03:35 PM, said:
Dhenrabi. Nom already got lynched and we are awaiting the resolution. Unless you are pretending and making it seem like you're in with the team. But since youre new I will give benefit of the doubt, specially if Nom turns out to be a Townie.
A Demon Llama!, on 27 April 2016 - 05:48 PM, said:
Guess ItWasntNom
A Demon Llama!, on 28 April 2016 - 05:51 PM, said:
Hey guys. Sorry I'm MIA right now. Not gonna make excuses but hoping ill be able to contribute something useful in several hours once im back home.
A Demon Llama!, on 29 April 2016 - 02:13 AM, said:
I'm around for a short while. Doesn't look like there's a collective agreement about anyone still.
A Demon Llama!, on 29 April 2016 - 03:12 AM, said:
Ok, I am going to bed. I honestly do not have a specific reason to vote anyone right now. Just going by gut feeling from what I've skimmed through and to add to maybe get a lynch.Vote Lady Bliss
A Demon Llama!, on 29 April 2016 - 11:37 AM, said:
Just woke up. So it seems like he was Not Just Plain Kitsu after all. Sorry.
There! Figured a way to get ADLs posts!
"If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?" - Shylock