[Gust Hubb]

First of all, HA!!!!!!!!
VINDICATED!!! I still have the day 1 MOJO.

OK... Cough... Now back to the game.

[Gust Hubb]

Coltaine93, on 29 April 2016 - 07:00 AM, said:

Andorion, on 29 April 2016 - 06:38 AM, said:

Looks like scum messed up. OK people we caught a break but remember we haven't lynched anybody and we can't always rely on scum to shoot themselves in the foot. Cases have been made, the thread is full of them. Let's see what we can make of that.

For example, Bubba has been suspiciously quiet as has been Tapper.
Nobody has yet given a satisfactory explanation of HO's play
What has Blend been doing? I can't remember and that type of inconspicuousness is never good.

Earlier I speculated on a veteran newbie scum combo. Half of that has been verified. What do people think?

I also thought about a veteran newbie combo. But as a team!
But Kitsu did a good job as scum i think. Even alone.
Would a symp know both in the case of two independent killers? We could take a look at who tried to take attention away from Kitsu and who else he protected.

We have a lot of quiet players. Or more quiet than usual according to you and other veterans. A symp shouldn't be quiet, so we could maybe eliminate from our Who-is-Kitsus-symp list.

But I was thinking about another fact. Serg -> new player (dead). Kitsu -> new player (dead). Okay, Kitsu could also have killed Serg, but I can't see why. What reason could the other killer have to go after newbies? Or all the kills are random. Also possible.

Very insightful for a newb...not sure if I am more congratulatory or suspicious.

[Macros]

Reading up on my tea break, did I really just waste ten minuets of my life trying to bend my head around a case based on an completely unprovable supposition of a dead symp?

Le sigh, once again I feel the itching need to string Tatts up by the neck and hang him until dead. Mess is touted as a good player, an experienced player, yet here he is signalling his masters (all 3 of them going off Tatts post) on day one, in his first few posts no less. my my how his standards are slipping.

Excuse my whilst I go get some rubber gloves for you tatts, your keyboard appears to be covered in shit again.

I'm going to go back no and try see who Kitsu did and did not interact with, and see if anyone is blatantly blindspotting him

[Tattersail_]

Macros, on 29 April 2016 - 11:26 AM, said:

Reading up on my tea break, did I really just waste ten minuets of my life trying to bend my head around a case based on an completely unprovable supposition of a dead symp?

Le sigh, once again I feel the itching need to string Tatts up by the neck and hang him until dead. Mess is touted as a good player, an experienced player, yet here he is signalling his masters (all 3 of them going off Tatts post) on day one, in his first few posts no less. my my how his standards are slipping.

Excuse my whilst I go get some rubber gloves for you tatts, your keyboard appears to be covered in shit again.

I'm going to go back no and try see who Kitsu did and did not interact with, and see if anyone is blatantly blindspotting him

I already see where this is going.

Tattersail_, on 27 April 2016 - 08:10 AM, said:

Siergiej, on 26 April 2016 - 06:54 PM, said:

Moving towards the meaty part, aka throwing accusations. There's a lot of meta play going on and the pace is very fast, so I'm struggling a bit, but my thinking so far is as follows. Andorion and Tatts seem the most vocal and it started with Tatts accusing Andorion of being scum because of him touching on mechanics very early.

It was him bringing in/speculating on town mechanics that raised my eyebrows fyi.

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That sounds like grasping at straws very early in the game, but Tatts also puts a big mark on his back with going after someone this openly. That would be a risk of outing himself immediately. So I'm inclined to think he's not scum. I'm also not convinced by the Andorion mentioned mechanics therefore scum thinking, so I'm leaning towards suspecting one of the people who jumped on the lynching Andorion bandwagon, as an easy way to quickly kill off a townie.

I assume everyone is guilty until they are proven innocent. Everyone has motivations, I'm not always willing to let go of a subject and move onto the next suspicious person. (I find it hard to let go). Yet day one is always a crap shot, and by harping on, I draw out people's opinions on the matter.

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These people are:
Nom, HiddenOne, Kitsu
'm not voting yet, because I want to understand better lynching on day 1. Then I'll add my vote, most likely for one of the three mentioned above.

Oka Champions League time!

As long as people have an opinion then their vote is valid, yet jumping on and not adding to the discussion is an easy way of skating by. I have not looked at their votes yet but out of the three you mention I'd be willing to give Kitsu a pass. I wouldn't want to scare the new guys into not voting. It sets a bad future impression.

Nom and HiddenOne both have multiple games on this site under their belt, so they know what they are doing. I'll quickly look at their votes..

First up Nom.

Itwas Nom, on 26 April 2016 - 08:48 AM, said:

Town has barely any profit from those speculation, let scum figure on their own

for now

vote Andorion

This is 20 minutes after my vote, and on page one to boot. It doesn't look like a pressure vote, it does not look like a joke vote, he has a reason which means it is a serious early vote from him.

HiddenOne, on 26 April 2016 - 02:13 PM, said:

People thrashing Andorion for talking about town roles? There will be talk of "that's why nobody wants to post anymore"

Vote Andorion

let that be a lesson to you

This seems like a less serious vote but it is vote number 3 on Ando, this pushes him into dangerous territory. Without another option people may pile on just to get the lynch.


Then we have Ando's reaction

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 02:29 PM, said:

12 hours into the game and the only remarkable thing happening is the lynch train developing on me as I have profaned the sacred mafia alter of "Touch not the game mechanics". Also because people aren't finding anything else voteworthy yet.

Most interesting thing to me? Tatts lightning swift volte face regarding same issue when I was challenged.

Hmmm. Couple that with a divergence from his usual style of play and its quite quite suspicious.

This is quite a calm response, and he does not seem to be panicky one bit. Reading after the Kitsu vote he remains calm as well. This makes me lean Ando towards the town side of the fence.

So looking at it from fresh eyes this morning I'd be more willing to vote HO.

Going to read up a little further.

Here you go, I think looks incriminating


I only looked for signalling to Kitsu based on Tapper saying two killers may not know each other and Mess was THE ONLY ONE WHO LOOKED LIKE HE SIGNALLED KITSU, both you and Khell are in those messages too, so yes. I am of the opinion that either YOU OR KHELL are scum number 2. That's a hard opinion so if I die, I want this attached to me.

[A Demon Llama!]

Just woke up. So it seems like he was Not Just Plain Kitsu after all.

Sorry.

[Tattersail_]

A Demon Llama!, on 29 April 2016 - 11:37 AM, said:

Just woke up. So it seems like he was Not Just Plain Kitsu after all.

Sorry.

Keep em coming

[Macros]

Shit Tatts, you coulda posted that for me ten minutes ago, would have saved me a lot of scrolling and scanning!

27th april - 09.10, kitsu ref.
also, pushing mess?

is what i have written down, and that exact bit of wording you so helpfully underlined for me is what i was going to underline and take from that post.
Funny how you happened to be able to immediately know what post I would find, almost as if it was playing on your mind, because you blatantly put it there for your master kitsu possibly? And the fact that you don't seem to acknowledge kitsu existence at all until he turns up dead today? I was going to leave that sentence with ellipsis, but that would be me "subtly leading" wouldn't it?

By all means, continue Tatts

[Khellendros]

Okay, so here we go.

Tattersail_, on 29 April 2016 - 08:58 AM, said:

Possible signal to either Khell or Macros. I've said this. This is Mess' first vote.

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 02:19 AM, said:

Woo game thread.

Vote Khellendros

Because Macros and Venge have a point...

Possible signal to Venge too surely On the other hand, I think people have been saying 'get Khell' since the sign-up thread, so this was a natural (and inevitable) continuation of 'ha ha kill Khell'. Let's face it, if Mess hadn't voted me early day 1, someone else would have.

However, more significantly, your case BEGINS with the assumption that Mess is a symp. Why is that the assumption? I'll tell you why, as I have already done so previously. It's because Mess happened to argue with Tatts. You argue with Tatts, you have ulterior motives and are scum - no matter what inconclusive evidence your CF gives.

Let's take that further. Mess signals me by voting for me. Yeah, okay. This is the guy who we selected for the Mafia Championships, right? So presumably we might all conclude he's fairly okayish at mafia, right? Signalling is pointless as a symp. You 'signal' through your actions, not through voting for your killers and risking that actually gets taken up - as indeed I was frankly surprised that I wasn't the day 1 choice.

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Possible first signal to Kitsu

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 02:26 AM, said:

Just Plain Kitsu, on 26 April 2016 - 02:23 AM, said:

Woot! Game time!

Greetings

Yep, possible first signal. Just like every single post can be a possible first signal. In fact, after I'm done with this, I might try a little science experiment...

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Fuck me. If and I know nothing is certain until we see the CF's but if Messremb was trying to signal both killers then this is it.

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 09:34 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 26 April 2016 - 07:52 AM, said:

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 02:19 AM, said:

Woo game thread.

Vote Khellendros

Because Macros and Venge have a point...

Remind me what that point is. Place joke votes on me at beginning of game for good luck?

Many might consider lynching you to be good luck

Note for JPK, Siergiej and Dhenrabi, genuine truth - if Khell is alive on Day 3 then he is scum

Another note: in un-alted mafia some old grudges occasionally get settled

Also, Day 1 votes can be extremely random. Example:

Remove Vote

Just Plain Kitsu, on 26 April 2016 - 04:35 AM, said:

You know, if the voting system was actually for lynching - with the last candidate standing getting the position - I'll bet we'd have much larger voter turnout here. Besides that's the only way I can imagine voting Trump.

You'd consider voting Trump for anything? Clearly scummy

Vote JPK

Lynches have run off of far less than that.

So

Remove Vote

Are we going to be serious today or whimsical?

Khellendros, on 26 April 2016 - 07:55 AM, said:

2) You want us to speculate on town roles. That's interesting.

Why do you think it is a Town role? It could be scum, it could be independent.

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 08:21 AM, said:

Soo lets see, Day 1:

1. Standard nonsential conversation: Check
2. Joke voting: Check
3. Suspicion of player speculating on game roles: Check
4. Accusation of signalling and symping: Waiting on this one.
5. Lynch Bubba: Inevitable

OMGUS?

My God, you've got it. Turns out, if you look long enough, my name can be connected to everyone and everything in this thread! Who would have thought? I mean, I'm such a low-lying, never-commented on presence, I would have thought it would be practically impossible to link me with anything anyone else has said - about anything!

If you also want a more serious answer, then that would be that nothing above is based on any of my actions/interactions, but rather those of two other people, and Tatts is managing to damn me for it by reading it in a way which fits his purpose.

On to the next...

[Macros]

I vote ADL man of the match, punnage genious

[Tattersail_]

Macros, on 29 April 2016 - 11:51 AM, said:

Shit Tatts, you coulda posted that for me ten minutes ago, would have saved me a lot of scrolling and scanning!

27th april - 09.10, kitsu ref.
also, pushing mess?

is what i have written down, and that exact bit of wording you so helpfully underlined for me is what i was going to underline and take from that post.
Funny how you happened to be able to immediately know what post I would find, almost as if it was playing on your mind, because you blatantly put it there for your master kitsu possibly? And the fact that you don't seem to acknowledge kitsu existence at all until he turns up dead today? I was going to leave that sentence with ellipsis, but that would be me "subtly leading" wouldn't it?

By all means, continue Tatts

I saw it this morning on my read through, your pushing me as a symp again?

[Gust Hubb]

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 09:34 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 26 April 2016 - 07:52 AM, said:

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 02:19 AM, said:

Woo game thread.

Vote Khellendros

Because Macros and Venge have a point...

Remind me what that point is. Place joke votes on me at beginning of game for good luck?

Many might consider lynching you to be good luck

Note for JPK, Siergiej and Dhenrabi, genuine truth - if Khell is alive on Day 3 then he is scum

Another note: in un-alted mafia some old grudges occasionally get settled

Also, Day 1 votes can be extremely random. Example:

Remove Vote

Just Plain Kitsu, on 26 April 2016 - 04:35 AM, said:

You know, if the voting system was actually for lynching - with the last candidate standing getting the position - I'll bet we'd have much larger voter turnout here. Besides that's the only way I can imagine voting Trump.

You'd consider voting Trump for anything? Clearly scummy

Vote JPK

Lynches have run off of far less than that.

So

Remove Vote

Are we going to be serious today or whimsical?

Khellendros, on 26 April 2016 - 07:55 AM, said:

2) You want us to speculate on town roles. That's interesting.

Why do you think it is a Town role? It could be scum, it could be independent.

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 08:21 AM, said:

Soo lets see, Day 1:

1. Standard nonsential conversation: Check
2. Joke voting: Check
3. Suspicion of player speculating on game roles: Check
4. Accusation of signalling and symping: Waiting on this one.
5. Lynch Bubba: Inevitable

OMGUS?

Didn't mention coltaine

I do like Tatts reasoning so far. It is fitting from where I am looking in day 1. And it is day 3 now with Khell alive. Still reading

[Khellendros]

Continued...

Tattersail_, on 29 April 2016 - 08:58 AM, said:

continued
Siergiej mentioned Kitsu as one of his suspects

Siergiej, on 26 April 2016 - 06:54 PM, said:

<snip> I'm leaning towards suspecting one of the people who jumped on the lynching Andorion bandwagon, as an easy way to quickly kill off a townie. These people are:
Nom, HiddenOne, Kitsu

and that is when Khell enters the thread, quotes a few posts, replies a bit and votes for Nom. He does not mention Siergiej's post though. I think he picked up on Mess's signalling which can be shown a bit later too.

I don't mention Siergiej, but guess who I do mention - yeah, Kitsu. Along with you and the rest who jumped on the Andorion train. In fact, I was one of the main drivers of the thinking which Siergiej espouses above. So what exactly are you trying to say with this?

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After Gust Hubb makes this observation about Kitsu

Gust Hubb, on 27 April 2016 - 01:06 PM, said:

Itwas Nom, on 27 April 2016 - 12:47 PM, said:

Gust Hubb, on 27 April 2016 - 12:41 PM, said:

Just Plain Kitsu, on 26 April 2016 - 02:33 PM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 02:29 PM, said:

12 hours into the game and the only remarkable thing happening is the lynch train developing on me as I have profaned the sacred mafia alter of "Touch not the game mechanics". Also because people aren't finding anything else voteworthy yet.

Most interesting thing to me? Tatts lightning swift volte face regarding same issue when I was challenged.

Hmmm. Couple that with a divergence from his usual style of play and its quite quite suspicious.

Pointing straight back at Tatts already?

Vote Andorion

Kitsu is scum. I'd bet my right nut on it.

Elaborate?

A vote with very little to back it trying to accelerate the train. Certain behaviors really catch my eye on day one. Piling on a budding, not established, train on day one without a significant reason let alone case seems off.

Khell deflects attention to HO, or lumps him and Nom in the same bracket.

Khellendros, on 27 April 2016 - 01:43 PM, said:

Gust Hubb, on 27 April 2016 - 01:06 PM, said:

Itwas Nom, on 27 April 2016 - 12:47 PM, said:

Gust Hubb, on 27 April 2016 - 12:41 PM, said:

Just Plain Kitsu, on 26 April 2016 - 02:33 PM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 02:29 PM, said:

12 hours into the game and the only remarkable thing happening is the lynch train developing on me as I have profaned the sacred mafia alter of "Touch not the game mechanics". Also because people aren't finding anything else voteworthy yet.

Most interesting thing to me? Tatts lightning swift volte face regarding same issue when I was challenged.

Hmmm. Couple that with a divergence from his usual style of play and its quite quite suspicious.

Pointing straight back at Tatts already?

Vote Andorion

Kitsu is scum. I'd bet my right nut on it.

Elaborate?

A vote with very little to back it trying to accelerate the train. Certain behaviors really catch my eye on day one. Piling on a budding, not established, train on day one without a significant reason let alone case seems off.

I agree with you on that analysis, though the same behaviour could be laid on HO as well. I'd be interested to see what both have to say in this regard, if Nom turns up inno. HO has promised us a response.

I'm not sure, however, why people are expecting more of a defence of Nom. I wouldn't expect it any more than perhaps we've already seen with some conversations about an HO lynch instead. Do you guys really expect anything more overt than that? Or are you saying you expected more of a defence from Nom himself?

So I agree with Gust, and bring up Kitsu as another option, and say I'd like him to be pushed further, and that is actually a mark against me?! Even though Tatts is not saying it outright, I presume that he's suggesting that I've come out in this to 'defend' Kitsu. First, defend him from what? The lack of votes on him?

Second, I would like to get a little more credit than that. If I was scum, not only would I not defend my fellow scum (is that not Mess the symp's job?), but in the scenario which I think Tattersail is suggesting - which is independent killers - I would be even less than zero inclined to defend someone who I couldn't even be certain is in fact a fellow scum!! I mean, come on, that really does beggar belief.

So even in the hypothetical scenario of me being scum, the above argument makes little sense.

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I think there's some evidence there that Khell may be the other scum..

Vote Khell

I think there's evidence that no matter what happened during the night, no matter who CF'd, and no matter if they CF'd scum or town, Tattersail would have come out today to link that to me in some way. Hell, if we'd had nothing happen at all, I'm sure there's some way he would have strived to link that negatively to me.

There are times when I have been town and someone has made a case against me based on thread evidence which is so good that I was half-convinced by it. Because there are times when you say or do certain things which can be convincingly construed as scummy, even if you weren't.

This is not one of those cases. Not only is it to a very large extent based on the posts of others, not my posting, actions, or behavior, but it is also based on the posting of others (namely Messremb) when viewed through a certain unverifiable perspective. And even when viewed through that perspective, it still remains shallow and unconvincing. But I guess I would say that, and everyone can just judge for themselves.


Edit: Added missing word, 'judge'.

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 29 April 2016 - 12:08 PM

[Gust Hubb]

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 10:07 AM, said:

Yes, no assumptions on Cult till we see a Cult CF!

Typical symp behavior spreading lies.

Also, it was interesting how mess said he wasn't running a spreadsheet. Indicating that he did not need one?

[Andorion]

My biggest objection to following Tatt's signalling argument is that it is based on a non-provable premise.

My biggest objection to lynching Tatts on the basis of his gameplay is that I have seen him do this before as town.

But gameplay patterns can be faked....Hmmm

[Gust Hubb]

Khellendros, on 29 April 2016 - 12:07 PM, said:

Continued...

Tattersail_, on 29 April 2016 - 08:58 AM, said:

continued
Siergiej mentioned Kitsu as one of his suspects

Siergiej, on 26 April 2016 - 06:54 PM, said:

<snip> I'm leaning towards suspecting one of the people who jumped on the lynching Andorion bandwagon, as an easy way to quickly kill off a townie. These people are:
Nom, HiddenOne, Kitsu

and that is when Khell enters the thread, quotes a few posts, replies a bit and votes for Nom. He does not mention Siergiej's post though. I think he picked up on Mess's signalling which can be shown a bit later too.

I don't mention Siergiej, but guess who I do mention - yeah, Kitsu. Along with you and the rest who jumped on the Andorion train. In fact, I was one of the main drivers of the thinking which Siergiej espouses above. So what exactly are you trying to say with this?

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After Gust Hubb makes this observation about Kitsu

Gust Hubb, on 27 April 2016 - 01:06 PM, said:

Itwas Nom, on 27 April 2016 - 12:47 PM, said:

Gust Hubb, on 27 April 2016 - 12:41 PM, said:

Just Plain Kitsu, on 26 April 2016 - 02:33 PM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 02:29 PM, said:

12 hours into the game and the only remarkable thing happening is the lynch train developing on me as I have profaned the sacred mafia alter of "Touch not the game mechanics". Also because people aren't finding anything else voteworthy yet.

Most interesting thing to me? Tatts lightning swift volte face regarding same issue when I was challenged.

Hmmm. Couple that with a divergence from his usual style of play and its quite quite suspicious.

Pointing straight back at Tatts already?

Vote Andorion

Kitsu is scum. I'd bet my right nut on it.

Elaborate?

A vote with very little to back it trying to accelerate the train. Certain behaviors really catch my eye on day one. Piling on a budding, not established, train on day one without a significant reason let alone case seems off.

Khell deflects attention to HO, or lumps him and Nom in the same bracket.

Khellendros, on 27 April 2016 - 01:43 PM, said:

Gust Hubb, on 27 April 2016 - 01:06 PM, said:

Itwas Nom, on 27 April 2016 - 12:47 PM, said:

Gust Hubb, on 27 April 2016 - 12:41 PM, said:

Just Plain Kitsu, on 26 April 2016 - 02:33 PM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 02:29 PM, said:

12 hours into the game and the only remarkable thing happening is the lynch train developing on me as I have profaned the sacred mafia alter of "Touch not the game mechanics". Also because people aren't finding anything else voteworthy yet.

Most interesting thing to me? Tatts lightning swift volte face regarding same issue when I was challenged.

Hmmm. Couple that with a divergence from his usual style of play and its quite quite suspicious.

Pointing straight back at Tatts already?

Vote Andorion

Kitsu is scum. I'd bet my right nut on it.

Elaborate?

A vote with very little to back it trying to accelerate the train. Certain behaviors really catch my eye on day one. Piling on a budding, not established, train on day one without a significant reason let alone case seems off.

I agree with you on that analysis, though the same behaviour could be laid on HO as well. I'd be interested to see what both have to say in this regard, if Nom turns up inno. HO has promised us a response.

I'm not sure, however, why people are expecting more of a defence of Nom. I wouldn't expect it any more than perhaps we've already seen with some conversations about an HO lynch instead. Do you guys really expect anything more overt than that? Or are you saying you expected more of a defence from Nom himself?

So I agree with Gust, and bring up Kitsu as another option, and say I'd like him to be pushed further, and that is actually a mark against me?! Even though Tatts is not saying it outright, I presume that he's suggesting that I've come out in this to 'defend' Kitsu. First, defend him from what? The lack of votes on him?

Second, I would like to get a little more credit than that. If I was scum, not only would I not defend my fellow scum (is that not Mess the symp's job?), but in the scenario which I think Tattersail is suggesting - which is independent killers - I would be even less than zero inclined to defend someone who I couldn't even be certain is in fact a fellow scum!! I mean, come on, that really does beggar belief.

So even in the hypothetical scenario of me being scum, the above argument makes little sense.

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I think there's some evidence there that Khell may be the other scum..

Vote Khell

I think there's evidence that no matter what happened during the night, no matter who CF'd, and no matter if they CF'd scum or town, Tattersail would have come out today to link that to me in some way. Hell, if we'd had nothing happen at all, I'm sure there's some way he would have strived to link that negatively to me.

There are times when I have been town and someone has made a case against me based on thread evidence which is so good that I was half-convinced by it. Because there are times when you say or do certain things which can be convincingly construed as scummy, even if you weren't.

This is not one of those cases. Not only is it to a very large extent based on the posts of others, not my posting, actions, or behavior, but it is also based on the posting of others (namely Messremb) when viewed through a certain unverifiable perspective. And even when viewed through that perspective, it still remains shallow and unconvincing. But I guess I would say that, and everyone can just judge for themselves.


Edit: Added missing word, 'judge'.

None of your kitsu interaction matters if you didn't know who he was and killed him last night.

[Gust Hubb]

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 10:16 AM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 10:13 AM, said:

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 10:07 AM, said:

Yes, no assumptions on Cult till we see a Cult CF!

Eh who said anything about a Cult? I must have missed something

You got the Serial Killer memo though?

Huh.

[Khellendros]

Commence science experiment:

Tattersail_, on 26 April 2016 - 07:20 AM, said:

Good Morning!!

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 02:19 AM, said:

Woo game thread.

Vote Khellendros

Because Macros and Venge have a point...

This is something I can get behind

Tatts here could be sending a signal to me or Mess - 'get behind me', have my back, Tatts is my symp.

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Lady Bliss, on 26 April 2016 - 03:24 AM, said:

vote Nom
Because...

And hallooooo to the thread!

It figures. Let the list be dwindled.

Lady Bliss, on 26 April 2016 - 03:29 AM, said:

You know... I don't think I've played naked before... are anyone else's nipples cold?

I feel like a mannequin...

I know how you feel, Bliss. I sympathise with you, dot dot dot know what I mean nudge nudge wink wink - Tatts is Bliss' symp.

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Coltaine93, on 26 April 2016 - 04:43 AM, said:

Hello everybody

Good Morning

This looks awfully familiar to Mess' greeting to Kitsu - could Mess be Kitsu's symp and Tatts Coltaine's symp???

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Tapper, on 26 April 2016 - 05:02 AM, said:

I can see the tweets already at John Oliver.
Lyin' Ted is symped by Kasich. Losers and dummies, both of them!

17 players Tapper, can we get your take on possible mechanics? You think he may have thrown a recruiter into the mix?

Throwing out random roles straight off, who does that? Well, symps would, wouldn't they? And the blatant querying of Tapper for advice, repeated more than once...well, this is just blatant.

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Coltaine93, on 26 April 2016 - 05:33 AM, said:

Vote Kellendros, Vote Nom or Vote Trump. I think I need more informations to decide

thinking

thinking

thinking

Vote Trump

A shame he is not partitioning. The only election he would get my vote.

Ah, decisions are important in mafia. When presented with those three options, Khell is the obvious choice

'Khell is the obvious choice' - my God, Tatts is really making these signaling attempts quite blatant, isn't he? Too bad he's been such a shitty symp to me.

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Siergiej, on 26 April 2016 - 06:16 AM, said:

Greetings!

Howdy Siergiej

Do I even need to say it?

[Gust Hubb]

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 10:27 AM, said:

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 10:23 AM, said:

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 10:16 AM, said:

Andorion, on 26 April 2016 - 10:13 AM, said:

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 10:07 AM, said:

Yes, no assumptions on Cult till we see a Cult CF!

Eh who said anything about a Cult? I must have missed something

You got the Serial Killer memo though?

And just to complete the set, the FM-ing Tyrant Predator?

I'll lay money on an FM

BTW what do you think of a Tatts killer, Nom symp duo?

Misdirection from Andy in response?

[Khellendros]

Gust Hubb, on 29 April 2016 - 12:11 PM, said:

None of your kitsu interaction matters if you didn't know who he was and killed him last night.

So then why would I defend him as Tatts is suggesting? That is precisely my point.

As for your point, you could direct the same to everyone else - none of Gust's interactions with Kitsu matter if Gust didn't know who he was and killed him last night.


Edit: Changed 'you' to 'Gust'

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 29 April 2016 - 12:19 PM

[HiddenOne]

I've just done a super fast catch up. I'm glad scum got hit, and I think the theory of 2 independent killers with a common symp is a pretty plausible idea.


Khell, are you possibly over-reacting to the insistent theme that you must be scum since you are alive? I admit that I usually try to resist boilerplate thinking, but these things become rote for a reason.

Well, I read too fast to even know where to reply, let me work a while and get back.