[worry]

I'm willing to do all I can to solve this problem, as long as it doesn't include upsetting the one subset of hobbyists even more repugnant than Gamergaters, ending the perpetual wars I profit from, better funding the VA through taxation, or taking PTSD seriously enough to stop mocking "trigger warnings" and the like. (And for the record, I do that last thing out of cruelty towards civilian women and children who've lived through trauma, the troops are just collateral damage, sadly).

[QuickTidal]

Andorion, on 08 November 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:

Apparently some of the survivors of Las Vegas were there when it happened.

As seen on a headline: There is nothing more (sadly) American than survivors of one mass shooting being caught in another.

Accurate.

[amphibian]

I have a friend who is extra heartbroken over this last shooting because that's her regular bar. She's away at grad school now, otherwise she'd have had a decent chance of being there at that shooting.

She's hated every shooting ever, but the Vegas one in which she knew people and this one in which she went to that place regularly have her torn up.

The guns gotta go.

[Cause]

Andorion, on 08 November 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:

Apparently some of the survivors of Las Vegas were there when it happened.

Incredible! What are the odds of this happening. Something needs to be changed

[amphibian]

Cause, on 09 November 2018 - 12:32 PM, said:

Andorion, on 08 November 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:

Apparently some of the survivors of Las Vegas were there when it happened.

Incredible! What are the odds of this happening. Something needs to be changed

There have been several people who've survived one mass shooting and then been in the midst of another. Some have survived both and some did not.

The same goes for suicide bombings, especially in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other places where that is common.

[worry]

[Tsundoku]

Those cheeky little fellows at the NRA opened their fat yaps again, and this time it looks like a large proportion of the medical community gave them an absolute gobful back.

https://www.news.com...9e57d71475227d5

'Stay in your lane' indeed. Just when you think it's really difficult to be that stupid, groups like the NRA go out of their way to depress (but not shock) you. Again.

[worry]

Yah an acquaintance of mine was a trauma surgeon in the South when he was coming up and saw some real horror, so he was royally pissed (which in the US means mad, not drunk).

[Slow Ben]

Tsundoku, on 13 November 2018 - 08:03 AM, said:

Those cheeky little fellows at the NRA opened their fat yaps again, and this time it looks like a large proportion of the medical community gave them an absolute gobful back.

https://www.news.com...9e57d71475227d5

'Stay in your lane' indeed. Just when you think it's really difficult to be that stupid, groups like the NRA go out of their way to depress (but not shock) you. Again.

ive been laughing and crying following these for the last few days.

[Nicodimas]

Yeah taking the guns is going to go really well...

https://www.dailywir...6b0O-COV8zIMkHM


Good luck on that one.

Sidebar: this is what most gun patriots fear the complete overreach of Fed Powers that will make the gun homicides.. start making heart deaths look trivial in comparison.

Genius. Best control debate — you don’t need guns and if you think you do guess what we got ! nukkkkkkeees !! Can’t make it up. Shouldn’t you anti-freedom crowd be a little bit worried a Congress person that you elected wants to nuke your fellow citizens. Anyhow yet again this shows the capability and power the anti-freedom crowd desires.

[worry]

^^^The Daily Wire is Ben Shapiro's snotrag, just in case anyone was wondering if Nico was citing a dubious source. Basically a Congressman chimed in on Twitter that if militia nuts 'went to war' with the American government, they'd uhhhhhh probably lose. But if you're The Daily Wire and you want to sell camo-print boner pills to rubes, you gotta get the clicks, so why not turn that into "Liberal Congressman threatens gun owners with nukes!"

[EmperorMagus]

worry, on 17 November 2018 - 12:42 AM, said:

^^^The Daily Wire is Ben Shapiro's snotrag, just in case anyone was wondering if Nico was citing a dubious source. Basically a Congressman chimed in on Twitter that if militia nuts 'went to war' with the American government, they'd uhhhhhh probably lose. But if you're The Daily Wire and you want to sell camo-print boner pills to rubes, you gotta get the clicks, so why not turn that into "Liberal Congressman threatens gun owners with nukes!"

It's fascinating how he builds an entire narrative before telling us in the last paragraph of the article what the congressman actually said ...

And honestly, I can see how people can fall for this. If I was in a Republican family and wanted to believe that Democrats are evil, I could make myself accept it too.

[Primateus]

I'm sorry, but I have to ask. It's not that I'm being contentious, angry or anything. But at this point, I'm wondering, and I have to ask; Why is Nico still here?

[Aptorian]

He provides a valuable insight into the wacky world of American culture and fringe politics.

[Nicodimas]

Primateus, on 17 November 2018 - 10:43 AM, said:

I'm sorry, but I have to ask. It's not that I'm being contentious, angry or anything. But at this point, I'm wondering, and I have to ask; Why is Nico still here?

I’m alive? The constitution grants me the same rights it does you. Nobody is more important than anyone else? Just because you disagree with someone doesn’t they “shouldn’t be around”..this mentality fits very much into safe spaces. Safe spaces are scary nonsense. This type of stuff.

Let’s be honest. If people like me didn’t exist, other people would be running a mock. Sadly, many probably think people like me shouldn’t be around./sad face. That’s the whole reason a certain side is not giving up there guns. Maybe not you in particular..

It’s not about the guns..it’s about control. Liberals should be against this type of behavior ..completely. I am liberal.

https://www.rocheste...tory/1610876946

[Morgoth]

Nicodimas, on 24 November 2018 - 02:27 AM, said:

Primateus, on 17 November 2018 - 10:43 AM, said:

I'm sorry, but I have to ask. It's not that I'm being contentious, angry or anything. But at this point, I'm wondering, and I have to ask; Why is Nico still here?

I'm alive? The constitution grants me the same rights it does you. Nobody is more important than anyone else? Just because you disagree with someone doesn't they "shouldn't be around"..this mentality fits very much into safe spaces. Safe spaces are scary nonsense. This type of stuff.

Let's be honest. If people like me didn't exist, other people would be running a mock. Sadly, many probably think people like me shouldn't be around./sad face. That's the whole reason a certain side is not giving up there guns. Maybe not you in particular..

It's not about the guns..it's about control. Liberals should be against this type of behavior ..completely. I am liberal.

https://www.rocheste...tory/1610876946

Nico, this is not the US. The US constitution is entirely irrelevant to most of us. And also, the US is extremely right wing by anyone's standards. You don't have liberals. You don't have socialists. A year ago I would have thought you were making a joke. Now though. I worry you're all caught up in a cult. That's the only explenation for your recent behaviour, though it is a sad one.

[Tiste Simeon]

Shooting in Alabama and the "Good guy with a gun" idiocy exposed again for what it truly is, ie "it's OK for white people to have guns..."

https://m.facebook.c...799539910084929

[Tsundoku]

Sure, let's arm teachers.

https://www.news.com...8049ce389b5f0ff

Demented. Because the "good guy with a gun" has worked SO MANY TIMES previously, right?
I wonder how many teachers are black, given Tiste's previous post?

I also wonder what Gabrielle Giffords thinks of this?

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: 05 January 2019 - 06:32 AM

[Nicodimas]

Morgoth, on 24 November 2018 - 02:54 AM, said:

Nicodimas, on 24 November 2018 - 02:27 AM, said:

Primateus, on 17 November 2018 - 10:43 AM, said:

I'm sorry, but I have to ask. It's not that I'm being contentious, angry or anything. But at this point, I'm wondering, and I have to ask; Why is Nico still here?

I'm alive? The constitution grants me the same rights it does you. Nobody is more important than anyone else? Just because you disagree with someone doesn't they "shouldn't be around"..this mentality fits very much into safe spaces. Safe spaces are scary nonsense. This type of stuff.

Let's be honest. If people like me didn't exist, other people would be running a mock. Sadly, many probably think people like me shouldn't be around./sad face. That's the whole reason a certain side is not giving up there guns. Maybe not you in particular..

It's not about the guns..it's about control. Liberals should be against this type of behavior ..completely. I am liberal.

https://www.rocheste...tory/1610876946

Nico, this is not the US. The US constitution is entirely irrelevant to most of us. And also, the US is extremely right wing by anyone's standards. You don't have liberals. You don't have socialists. A year ago I would have thought you were making a joke. Now though. I worry you're all caught up in a cult. That's the only explenation for your recent behaviour, though it is a sad one.

I’m sorry that your not free and hope some day you fight and win your freedom over your system that oppresses you. As of now I will always embrace my freedom and realize the freedom the world has due to my constitution existing and the right for us to *passively* defend us through the 2nd. By extension most of western world enjoys more freedom due to this...

Millions enjoy freedom and don’t realize they don’t have this due to this passively existing everyday and has for some time now. The world would be frankly a very different and darker place without this. If the anti-freedom crowd wins they will get this world . /shrug maybe it’s what they deserve...

I don’t think they will like the results and I will continue to fight for freedom. It’s not tough you either realize modern societies true foundation and look at the history books .. or you bury your head in the sand ..

This post has been edited by Nicodimas: 14 January 2019 - 06:19 AM

[Aptorian]

How are you fighting for freedom, Nico?

Also what is it you believe is the foundation of modern societies?

This post has been edited by Alternative Goose: 14 January 2019 - 06:58 AM