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Kanye West & Hip-Hop at Large

#221 User is offline   Whisperzzzzzzz 

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 12:08 AM

I can't think of any specific tracks right now, but I'm fairly certain I've heard this Millenial Whoop in several 90s pop punk songs. It's not nearly as poppy sounding as in The Patterning's examples, of course. But it's definitely similar (in my memory).
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Posted 31 August 2016 - 02:53 AM

View Postpolishgenius, on 30 August 2016 - 04:17 PM, said:

Hey, we already knew that every pop song ever is based around the same four chords...


And those four chords (P1, P5, m6, P4) are just a re-ordering of the four chords (P1, m6, P4, P5) that were super popular in the 50s!

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 09 September 2016 - 05:35 PM

Terez what do you think about this? I'm just curious

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Posted 09 September 2016 - 05:59 PM

I see this kind of thing mostly as an interesting experiment in postmodernism. Seems to draw mostly from Bach and Beethoven. I could have done without the parallel octaves right off the bat, though. (It's especially bad when you're going for a Bach feel. Major counterpoint faux pas.) I like their taste in pianos (Steinway), but then, most pianists would.


I don't dislike it, really, but it's not the kind of thing I would listen to for enjoyment.

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Posted 26 June 2017 - 05:59 PM

I'm just gonna resurrect this topic to chuck This is England by Kano in here. I'm not sure it'll appeal to Terez specifically, but some of the rest of you who might not have listened to too much grime yet might enjoy it (not that it's really a grime track itself...).


(this is inspired by my being blown away by Kano's set at Glasto yesterday. I mean I already knew he's a don, but after seeing it I feel sorry for all the people who were there and went to watch Ed Sheeran instead)
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Posted 26 June 2017 - 06:12 PM

Wow PG, that's a great track. Never even heard of Kano before!

Impressed!
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Posted 26 June 2017 - 06:18 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 26 June 2017 - 06:12 PM, said:

Never even heard of Kano before!



He's kind of a weird one: he's a proper legend within grime, but he's never broken out like some of the other names in the genre (though this album did make some waves to be fair). I hope it changes now that grime is a big deal in and of itself in the UK.

I recommend the whole album that song came off, Made in the Manor, if you enjoyed the song. It's superb imo. Swings nicely between comparatively smoother stuff like that and Roadman's Hymn and proper old school grime like 3 Wheel Ups.
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Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:55 PM

Watched this pretty neat if nerdy pop-academic look at hip-hop rhyme schemes from Vox:


It's a quick dozen minutes and not meant to be exhaustive, but the examples are strong.

There's also one that focuses on Kanye in particular, and his development as a producer, to bring this full circle with the thread:

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Posted 02 May 2018 - 02:00 PM

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Posted 02 May 2018 - 03:24 PM

It's like he decided he had too many fans left.
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Posted 02 May 2018 - 08:36 PM

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Posted 06 May 2018 - 09:03 PM

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Posted 06 May 2018 - 10:26 PM

Yah that was pretty good. Also DG's performance of This Is America last night was so interesting, and the actual video is incredible.


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 07:06 PM

View PostLuv2B_Sassy, on 06 May 2018 - 10:26 PM, said:

Yah that was pretty good. Also DG's performance of This Is America last night was so interesting, and the actual video is incredible.




Probably one of the most important music videos I've seen in my life. Childish Gambino gained a fan (Full disclosure: I did not know that Glover had the alter ego until I saw him on SNL) here.

Here's a cool breakdown of the imagery on display, some of which I had no idea about or missed.
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Posted 17 May 2018 - 08:22 PM

To add to that, a cool bit of insight from the choreographer: https://www.dancemag...2567663747.html
Personally speaking, I get a little uncomfortable with the use of the word "distraction" by some analyses of the video. Like, at least those who see in the video a stodgy Bill Cosby-like indictment of black youth culture, or pop culture, or even commercialism in hip hop or art. I'm not saying there's no commentary between the foreground and the background, but I guess I'm saying it's not an indictment of the foreground content so much as an indictment of (some) viewers. Like it's more about what information "America" wants to consume (black culture, black entertainment) vs what it wants to ignore (black people, black lives, black victims, black bodies).

I'm not saying your article did that, since it's actually very informative. It's just that the word "distraction" reminded me of worse articles, and I just get a little skeeved out when it seems an analysis has a very simple take on "distraction" that suggests the black people in the video (including the dancers) are complicit. Hope that makes sense.
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Posted 17 May 2018 - 09:50 PM

This is why we can't have nice things. From a Canadian asshole no less. Hey Canada, keep your crap out of our country, kay? Bieber, BNL, this and so much more.



Desus & Mero give it the proper perspective here: https://www.youtube....h?v=1bRJDOzTv48
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Posted 17 May 2018 - 10:11 PM

LOL @ the hokey pokey part, they nailed it. That's the same lady who did the "Dear Fat People" video a few years ago, btw, if anyone thought she had "good intentions gone awry" or whatever.
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Posted 20 June 2018 - 08:46 AM

On The Carters' new video: https://www.bustle.c...e-space-9487117
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Posted 03 October 2018 - 05:49 PM

Today I learned that Kanye West is diagnosed Bi-Polar and he's proudly unmedicated for it. Combine that with fame, insane amounts of money and you get the God Complex that is Kanye West. My gods.

The man now makes infinitely more sense to me.

Fun Fact: 'Unmedicated Bi-Polar' is also how we got early-to-late Noughties Mel Gibson shitshow...sooooooo
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Posted 14 October 2018 - 07:57 PM

I feel bad for Kanye but I also still think he's a dick. Plus, I don't want to make out that depression/bi-polar is nothing, but if Tyson fucking Fury can apparently get himself out of the possibly literal death-spiral he was in, Kanye quite blatantly leaning into his worst moments for the attention doesn't generate much tolerance from me. I don't think he can blame that on the depression. The initial moments of madness, yeah. Pursuing consistently the reactions that generate the most outrage- I don't think that's a bi-polar thing?


To also add something positive to the other half of the thread title, I've been finding a lot of new artists in recent months via the reaction channels Lost in Vegas and Rock Reacts, and one LiV reacted to this week is particularly brilliant, Anderson .Paak.

See for example this rather funky (though not that hip-hoppy) track he did a couple years back:



and the tune he just did with Kendrick:


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