[Gothos]

about the advancement... I don't see why does it have to be the same in every world? notice that WE didn't have MAGIC, OTHER RACES or anything like that. it's a quite big diffrence.

anyways, what bothers me is... overuse of magic. and one I'm-too-cool-to-be-real-so-you-can't-touch-me character, Anomander Rake.

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Spring me out of this cell and I swear by the pain of Death that I shall take you to the Black Pearl and your bonny lass .

[Morgoth]

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Originally posted by Hetan:
@ Morgoth... but don't let it go to your head...

Let my genious go to my head? Will never happen. No matter how superior my mind becomes i'll always be a very down to earth and humble person. On of the many admireable aspects of my complex nature

[Gothos]

quote:

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Originallu posted by Dujek One-Arm:
What is the point of reading the books if you know what is going to happen?

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ever seen the series named "Colombo"?

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Spring me out of this cell and I swear by the pain of Death that I shall take you to the Black Pearl and your bonny lass .

[tickhill43]

quote:

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Originally posted by Greyfrog:

@Dujek: Ever watched or read old plays like Romeo and Juliette ? Knowing what will happen will not always spoil the read...

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@Greyfrog
In some cases knowing what happens does not spoil the story at all I readily admit but in this case it was awful and spoiled the tone completly. I thought that there was a real chance at this point that the Adjunct's army could be destroyed and the empire thrown into turmoil. If that army had been destroyed there would only be two armies left, Greymane trying to conquer Koreli (is this the right continent, cannot remember), and one-arms host which is greatly reduced in coral. The young of the empire had just been called up to the adjuncts army and with Coltaine's army destroyed almost to the last man there would have been a large chance of the empire entering its death throes. Instead we know that the empire lasts another 30 years at least. I feel that this spoilt the last part of HoC for me.

@Captain Sparrow - Only seen Colombo once and hated it, the best of dectective series is easily Jonathan Creek.

[Kimpo]

ohhh, that's cold, though, shouldn't there be a horde of teenage girls messing up these forums if that was true? and I never understood what people have against strong chars in a series. as long as it's done good anyway. it's like saying "hey, GWB, you can't be president, it's impossible for there to be that powerful people"

naturally, very strong people can be done wrong too, like Eddings hehe (though I liked his works when younger, guess that's the agegroup he aimed for)

[caladanbrood]

the worst bit of the books is the first book of HoC, imho. Erikson should stick to what he knows best, skipping around storylines, which he does like a maestro, not sticking to one character for so long. The grizzled veterans point is valid too.

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[McLovin]

Uh...never mind...

And yes, very well argued.

[Malarion]

I agree with the "Grizzled Veteran" comment.
It takes some of the tension away from the battles when they are filled with fearless soldiers. Where are the young recruits who are pissing themselves with fear?

Don't remember the descriptions ever being an issue, unlike some I have read ("dear god, Jordans going to describe every floor tile now" leaps to mind).

As for the lack of advancement...*Shudders*...read sci-fi if you want that.

Where once was light
Now darkness falls
Where once was love
Love is no more

[Svaran]

korik,

sorry my mistake.



It was Fool that siad the following;

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That isnt just fantasy and she has a degree in medieval studies so she knows what she's talking about. A woman can easily be stronger than a man

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actually in terms of combat that's a rarity, and thats based on experience garnered from having done military and martial arts training. Guys from my experience have always been easily stronger than woman some have been fitter but ultimately aggression and strength give them the edge in combat. It's in areas of skill that there is far more of a chance of parity.

Woman like Deotran, Lackwit, Elizabeth Moon's Pak's are like hen's teeth.

[This message was edited by Svaran on 02 February 2004 at 06:20 PM.]

[Folken]

That was actually one of the coolest parts of the entire series thus far. It was just amazing how Laseen justified herself. The dislike that I had built up towards Laseen in GotM completely disappeared. Theres always two sides to a story, and no one is better than SE at being able to tell both sides...*sigh* genius

Oh and Just scouting other novel forums, for what people have to say about Erikson and came across a post on the Bakker forum. Personally those posts on here would probably be viewed as heresy but the poster made a point that intrigued me. He/She said that all of Erikson's character, for the most part, seem to be insanely strong, which is true, Karsa for one is unbelievable, even I was a bit amazed when he fought and won against the Deragoth. Just wondering if anyone else had that feeling?

And a side note, the poster had the nerve to compare Erikson's popularity to Britney Spears and I quote "Saying Erikson is popular becasue of his writing is like saying Britney Spears is popular for her singing"!!!!!

[Greymane]

I agree. We don't have an actual eyewitness for the fighting inside Hissar. Duiker only sees the aftermath, and can only speculate on what happened.

Based on his observations, I'd say Coltaine's position in the city was quickly made untenable. The majority of the population was hostile, the defences were breached, the Malazan inhabitants and loyalists were in danger, etc. I can't remember the exact quotes off the top of my head, but doesn't Duiker observe that barracks and the keep walls had been breached, possibly by sorcery?

[Dawndeath]

There's only one big thing I dislike, and it's not really unique for Steven Erikson, but it bothers me that human (and other) civilizations that have existed for 8000 years (Ehrlitan etc) have not undergone Industrial Revolution. It wouldn't help the story, I realize that, but I always feel that scientific development is too slow in fantasy. (Exception may be the K'Chain Che'Malle/Nah'ruk, with their skykeeps etc. but we do not know enough about them yet).

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