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SKIN GAME - Discussion - SPOILERS AHOY, FULL SPEED AHEAD....DAMN THE SPOILERS Yeah, there will be spoilers so don't click here if not up to spee

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 07:42 AM

The Demonreach island is powered by the convergence of Laylines. Not the Merlin. I don't care if the Merlin was an actual Elder God, nobody has the personal power to keep thousands of super powerful creatures like the Nagloshii trapped permanently in stasis.
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Posted 05 June 2014 - 09:00 AM

View PostApt Hoc, on 05 June 2014 - 07:42 AM, said:

The Demonreach island is powered by the convergence of Laylines. Not the Merlin. I don't care if the Merlin was an actual Elder God, nobody has the personal power to keep thousands of super powerful creatures like the Nagloshii trapped permanently in stasis.


No. The layline at demonreach is the 'extra heat' given off by all those huge powers. What granted demonreach the power to contain those first few? Its like a battery and a car. The battery has to be there to start the car, but once it is going (assuming you are using an internal combustion engine) the car has a different source of fuel, however if you take the battery out while the car is running, it stops.
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Posted 05 June 2014 - 09:16 AM

Am I remembering that wrong? They are creating the ley lines?

That somehow seems counter-intuitive to how leylines are normally depicted. Or do they function as a kind of run-off point that lets all that evil siphon away?
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Posted 05 June 2014 - 09:39 AM

View PostApt Hoc, on 05 June 2014 - 09:16 AM, said:

Am I remembering that wrong? They are creating the ley lines?

That somehow seems counter-intuitive to how leylines are normally depicted. Or do they function as a kind of run-off point that lets all that evil siphon away?


That is it exactly, the imprisoned creatures generate tons of evil energy that spreads out from demonreach as a bunch of dark ley lines
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Posted 05 June 2014 - 04:05 PM

Have you guys seen this?

So we've known for a while that Jim has wanted to do a "parallel universe" type book, and as of fairly recently we've gotten more details on it: that it will be the 17th book (Called Mirror Mirror) and will take place when one Harry decides to fake his own death by summoning one of his other selves to kill. Other Harry, as we just found out, exists in a universe where he made "one different choice"--the choice at the end of Grave Peril. At Bianca's party, when he was offered the chance to leave peacefully and leave Susan behind, this Harry chose to avoid war, he chose to go in peace, and he chose to let Susan die.

Sounds like fun!
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Posted 05 June 2014 - 06:37 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 05 June 2014 - 04:05 PM, said:

Have you guys seen this?

So we've known for a while that Jim has wanted to do a "parallel universe" type book, and as of fairly recently we've gotten more details on it: that it will be the 17th book (Called Mirror Mirror) and will take place when one Harry decides to fake his own death by summoning one of his other selves to kill. Other Harry, as we just found out, exists in a universe where he made "one different choice"--the choice at the end of Grave Peril. At Bianca's party, when he was offered the chance to leave peacefully and leave Susan behind, this Harry chose to avoid war, he chose to go in peace, and he chose to let Susan die.

Sounds like fun!


Where's that from?
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Posted 06 June 2014 - 06:29 AM

My question is;

It has been hinted at in previous books that the supernatural world wants to remain as secret as possible because the human race is sick a destructive force when they find out about something ie vampires and werewolves, do you think Harry will bring Mortals in to save the world, all mortals not just a few
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Posted 06 June 2014 - 06:30 AM

Such not sick , damn phone
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Posted 06 June 2014 - 06:41 AM

No, because the point of an "apocalyptic trilogy" is that mankind as a whole is threatened to the point of extinction. They'll have no means to defend what they are up against, which is I'm now thinking the Outsiders.
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Posted 06 June 2014 - 01:28 PM

View PostImperial Historian, on 05 June 2014 - 04:05 PM, said:

Have you guys seen this?

So we've known for a while that Jim has wanted to do a "parallel universe" type book, and as of fairly recently we've gotten more details on it: that it will be the 17th book (Called Mirror Mirror) and will take place when one Harry decides to fake his own death by summoning one of his other selves to kill. Other Harry, as we just found out, exists in a universe where he made "one different choice"--the choice at the end of Grave Peril. At Bianca's party, when he was offered the chance to leave peacefully and leave Susan behind, this Harry chose to avoid war, he chose to go in peace, and he chose to let Susan die.

Sounds like fun!


I googled and didn't see anything. I'm going to assume you've either been trolled or are trolling us until I see a source.
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Posted 06 June 2014 - 02:17 PM

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View PostImperial Historian, on 05 June 2014 - 04:05 PM, said:

Have you guys seen this?

So we've known for a while that Jim has wanted to do a "parallel universe" type book, and as of fairly recently we've gotten more details on it: that it will be the 17th book (Called Mirror Mirror) and will take place when one Harry decides to fake his own death by summoning one of his other selves to kill. Other Harry, as we just found out, exists in a universe where he made "one different choice"--the choice at the end of Grave Peril. At Bianca's party, when he was offered the chance to leave peacefully and leave Susan behind, this Harry chose to avoid war, he chose to go in peace, and he chose to let Susan die.

Sounds like fun!


I googled and didn't see anything. I'm going to assume you've either been trolled or are trolling us until I see a source.


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Posted 06 June 2014 - 02:19 PM

If it happened, Our Harry would wake up with a goatee drawn on with marker so Alt Harry would be definitively The Good One.
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Posted 06 June 2014 - 02:30 PM

I just googled Mirror, mirror and Dresden Files and all I found was this awful slash-fiction about Dresden and Bob taking a shower together:

http://blackmothfic....rrormirror.html
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Posted 06 June 2014 - 03:11 PM

Huh a friend of mine sent it me, not sure where he got it from I assumed it was somewhere on the ama. I'll ask him?
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Posted 06 June 2014 - 03:16 PM

I think it is probably from here, but I haven't found the original source for this... Probably one of the book signing tours.
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Posted 06 June 2014 - 05:11 PM

View PostApt Hoc, on 06 June 2014 - 02:30 PM, said:

I just googled Mirror, mirror and Dresden Files and all I found was this awful slash-fiction about Dresden and Bob taking a shower together:

http://blackmothfic....rrormirror.html


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Posted 07 June 2014 - 12:33 PM

Lots of stuff here (and then I haven't even watched all of it):

Butcher Q&A

E.g.,hopefully got it right,

- talks about Peace Talks
- confirms next after that is Mirror Mirror
- what Harry thinks he knows about the mantle's powers is fishy as discussed above
- seems to confirm Harry is writing the first-person accounts for "the next one" (I take that as Harry becoming the Merlin)
- there will be a novella about Murphy and Kincaid in Hawaii for the next short story collection (collection will be named Brief Cases)
- wizard sitting under south pole is short story material (interesting given Molly under the ice)
- favourite urban fantasy is Jacka's Alex Verus :)
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Posted 07 June 2014 - 01:12 PM

Oh no, he grew his hair long again, that big nerd. I prefered when he looked less comic-con.
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Posted 07 June 2014 - 04:42 PM

View PostPig Iron, on 07 June 2014 - 12:33 PM, said:

Lots of stuff here (and then I haven't even watched all of it):

Butcher Q&A

E.g.,hopefully got it right,

- talks about Peace Talks
- confirms next after that is Mirror Mirror
- what Harry thinks he knows about the mantle's powers is fishy as discussed above
- seems to confirm Harry is writing the first-person accounts for "the next one" (I take that as Harry becoming the Merlin)
- there will be a novella about Murphy and Kincaid in Hawaii for the next short story collection (collection will be named Brief Cases)
- wizard sitting under south pole is short story material (interesting given Molly under the ice)
- favourite urban fantasy is Jacka's Alex Verus :)



That was a very long but enjoyable Q&A. Quality recording, and only a tiny handful of aggravating people with stupid questions.

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Posted 07 June 2014 - 05:27 PM

you realise almost none of us have latched onto the fact that Harry suggested time travel is do-able?
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