[Lock]

Alkend, on 01 April 2014 - 03:46 AM, said:

We're definitely going to all level up together.

Just like previous Spycraft games, it really isn't worth arguing about whether to try and level up quickly or resist it. Everyone needs to post at least a bit in order to have effective discussions and hopefully lynch scum, and it is easy for players who want to level up faster to post more often than that without going into overt spam territory. With 13 starting players, 120 posts per level is going to go by plenty fast anyways.




At the same time, scum will almost certainly start with at least one NK and while they might gain new abilities each level, since Tapper did not put any constraints that force town not to level too fast I highly doubt scum will get something game-breaking like 2 more NKs by level 3.




I don't think it's even worth arguing about an overall fast vs slow leveling policy, because you can't force others to go along with it short of diverting the lynching away from scum onto them (let's face it, no scum is going to be stupid enough to militantly argue for rapid leveling). IMO, it is better to just go with the natural posting flow on-thread and focus solely on hunting scum (props to Amp and Korabas for cutting through the leveling argument and staying on track on that, btw).

Vote Alkend

Day 1, looking away from the loud people we get Alkend who checks in, comments on Tapper's acronym and then this post is their attempt at substance.

[Okral Lom]

Tiamatha, on 01 April 2014 - 11:23 AM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 01 April 2014 - 09:11 AM, said:

GL I have a preposition for you on why 5 levels exist.

Level one. scum weak Town weak

Level two scum stronger Town weaker

Level three Scum even Stronger Town even weaker

Level four Scum kicking ass. Town at their weakest

Level 5 Scum OP Town finally OP

We may not know scum prefer the higher level but we can safely assume 5 levels exist for a reason and in my opinion the above is that reason.

Each level is a boost to scum. for us to get to level 5 we need to have 4 kills and clear 480 posts. (WCS)

That will take a while. but on words alone? getting to level 5 we need 600 post (120x5?)

I doubt we can do that in a day but perhaps we can. we certainly cant do it today though not without spamming up the thread, or pointing fingers at everyone else (helping no one but scum.)

Rikkters read is right on the money if scum level according to the above. if we get stuck at an NK around level 4? the damage scum could inflict could lose us the game. We don't know that yes but we have little control on it and assuming WCS is the best way to go about potentially ridiculous TMDi.

One thing I am sure of. if scum start off OP we have no control but if they gradually get stronger then our only control over them is to lynch the likes of you, padding posts and filling the thread up with unusable over extended arguments.


Sure I was wrong at the begining but I hope to follow a low posting attitude till I am sure I can happily land at 600 posts with as little levels in-between meeting timeout. Thats a sound tactic to fall back on.


Really did not think this needed explaining to town. Scum would not be happy if we kept leveling to a minimum till we were ready and shot for level 5 day 2 when we could avoid the weird gap in-between the levels. GL you are sounding alot like scum right now opposing Rikkters very basic and very sound strategy.

If I was not curious about the possibility MO is a killer getting signalled I'd vote you.

Edit: Changed BCS to WCS

Lol, I know that I just said we should cut this sort of discussion, but...

This post makes absolutely no sense.

What on earth does Bek mean by "till we were ready"? When does one know they are "ready" to go for Level 5? "Right lads, we've got everything sorted, we've got the scum on the run, now let's push!" Erm...

Not to mention this is coupled with the fact that Bek wants to get there by reaching 600 posts...only, you know, doing so without the high posters, whom Bek would like to see lynched, so that "we have control." By we, Bek presumably means "Bek", because I don't see how he can speak for everyone. But despite that, after those high posters are gone, when the time is absolutely right, Bek still wants to reach those 600 posts in a matter of a day? Presumably with the handful of players which are now left. Right. Ok then. Realistic strategising here.

600 or even 480 posts in a day is unrealistic, no matter who is involved. Bek says we certainly can't do it today without spamming up the thread - as if that wouldn't be the case on every other single day too. This is a nonsense post, and I'm calling it out as such.

So that was mildly irritating to read through this morning. You must not have ever played a game with Grief, Mentalist, and Lio. I believe that on one day Grief and Lio reached 750+ posts. The second they might have gotten to 1000 more. I would wake up and look at the thread and rather then 12 pages there was 45. It was fucking insanely awesome. A bitch to read through though.

[Galayn Lord]

Okral Lom, on 01 April 2014 - 02:03 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 01 April 2014 - 11:23 AM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 01 April 2014 - 09:11 AM, said:

GL I have a preposition for you on why 5 levels exist.

Level one. scum weak Town weak

Level two scum stronger Town weaker

Level three Scum even Stronger Town even weaker

Level four Scum kicking ass. Town at their weakest

Level 5 Scum OP Town finally OP

We may not know scum prefer the higher level but we can safely assume 5 levels exist for a reason and in my opinion the above is that reason.

Each level is a boost to scum. for us to get to level 5 we need to have 4 kills and clear 480 posts. (WCS)

That will take a while. but on words alone? getting to level 5 we need 600 post (120x5?)

I doubt we can do that in a day but perhaps we can. we certainly cant do it today though not without spamming up the thread, or pointing fingers at everyone else (helping no one but scum.)

Rikkters read is right on the money if scum level according to the above. if we get stuck at an NK around level 4? the damage scum could inflict could lose us the game. We don't know that yes but we have little control on it and assuming WCS is the best way to go about potentially ridiculous TMDi.

One thing I am sure of. if scum start off OP we have no control but if they gradually get stronger then our only control over them is to lynch the likes of you, padding posts and filling the thread up with unusable over extended arguments.


Sure I was wrong at the begining but I hope to follow a low posting attitude till I am sure I can happily land at 600 posts with as little levels in-between meeting timeout. Thats a sound tactic to fall back on.


Really did not think this needed explaining to town. Scum would not be happy if we kept leveling to a minimum till we were ready and shot for level 5 day 2 when we could avoid the weird gap in-between the levels. GL you are sounding alot like scum right now opposing Rikkters very basic and very sound strategy.

If I was not curious about the possibility MO is a killer getting signalled I'd vote you.

Edit: Changed BCS to WCS

Lol, I know that I just said we should cut this sort of discussion, but...

This post makes absolutely no sense.

What on earth does Bek mean by "till we were ready"? When does one know they are "ready" to go for Level 5? "Right lads, we've got everything sorted, we've got the scum on the run, now let's push!" Erm...

Not to mention this is coupled with the fact that Bek wants to get there by reaching 600 posts...only, you know, doing so without the high posters, whom Bek would like to see lynched, so that "we have control." By we, Bek presumably means "Bek", because I don't see how he can speak for everyone. But despite that, after those high posters are gone, when the time is absolutely right, Bek still wants to reach those 600 posts in a matter of a day? Presumably with the handful of players which are now left. Right. Ok then. Realistic strategising here.

600 or even 480 posts in a day is unrealistic, no matter who is involved. Bek says we certainly can't do it today without spamming up the thread - as if that wouldn't be the case on every other single day too. This is a nonsense post, and I'm calling it out as such.

So that was mildly irritating to read through this morning. You must not have ever played a game with Grief, Mentalist, and Lio. I believe that on one day Grief and Lio reached 750+ posts. The second they might have gotten to 1000 more. I would wake up and look at the thread and rather then 12 pages there was 45. It was fucking insanely awesome. A bitch to read through though.

I would have loved the golden age of mafia.

What are your thoughts on the game, are they incoming?

Day will timeout when I'll be sound asleep and the more people throwing their thoughts out there the better.

[Tiamatha]

Okral Lom, on 01 April 2014 - 02:03 PM, said:

So that was mildly irritating to read through this morning. You must not have ever played a game with Grief, Mentalist, and Lio. I believe that on one day Grief and Lio reached 750+ posts. The second they might have gotten to 1000 more. I would wake up and look at the thread and rather then 12 pages there was 45. It was fucking insanely awesome. A bitch to read through though.

Heh, well let me correct slightly then. Reaching 480+ posts FOR US is unrealistic. None of those dudes are playing.

So as a fresh face what do you make of things so far?

[Galayn Lord]

Tiamatha, on 01 April 2014 - 02:09 PM, said:

Okral Lom, on 01 April 2014 - 02:03 PM, said:

So that was mildly irritating to read through this morning. You must not have ever played a game with Grief, Mentalist, and Lio. I believe that on one day Grief and Lio reached 750+ posts. The second they might have gotten to 1000 more. I would wake up and look at the thread and rather then 12 pages there was 45. It was fucking insanely awesome. A bitch to read through though.

Heh, well let me correct slightly then. Reaching 480+ posts FOR US is unrealistic. None of those dudes are playing.

So as a fresh face what do you make of things so far?

Stop stealing my thoughts Tiam. I posted first. So it was my question.

[Monok Ochem]

I'm curious as to.Locks motivation.

appears, drops a vote on a (as so far today) non candidate then pisses off. Not feeling any of the other options Lock?



GLs case on Bek is quite logical, though it pains me to add yet another to a list of possibly maybe, suggested by.my main possibly.maybe

was Locks a cross post, or a direct response to GLs case (wifom of the highest degree I am aware). But all said I want more from Lock on this one. Was he distracting from anything at all?

[Okral Lom]

There seems to be a lot of banter back and forth over stuff that seemed pretty clearly labeled when I read the OP. I reached one post by MO and almost voted for him because he said

Monok Ochem, on 31 March 2014 - 04:06 PM, said:

Aha Amp you just fell into my trap!

I actually am half tempted to vote amp or GL already

Amp for the signalling hahahaha winky face, its a common trick to take the sting out of a reaching vote and pass it off as a joke

GL for blowing it entirely out of proportion and letting it smoke screen the thread for other to glide by, possible symp action

I just can't decide which of the scenarios is the more plausable

I find it mildly suspicious when people say hey look at those symps lets not look at who they are symping. Which if I read everything correctly was him.

The other thing that I dislike is the thought that in order to keep from leveling we need to eliminate the high posters. That makes for irritating games with no interaction. I took Tappers no spam warning as don't post but as don't do one word posts and or post lyrics to songs or the complete Iliad.

[Alkend]

Lock, on 01 April 2014 - 01:31 PM, said:

Vote Alkend

Day 1, looking away from the loud people we get Alkend who checks in, comments on Tapper's acronym and then this post is their attempt at substance.

OMGUS!

Yes, that was an attempt at substance. Are you saying I should not try to post any substance? You would rather I just make "Checking in, but I have nothing to say" posts?

[Alkend]

Okral Lom, on 01 April 2014 - 02:03 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 01 April 2014 - 11:23 AM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 01 April 2014 - 09:11 AM, said:

GL I have a preposition for you on why 5 levels exist.

Level one. scum weak Town weak

Level two scum stronger Town weaker

Level three Scum even Stronger Town even weaker

Level four Scum kicking ass. Town at their weakest

Level 5 Scum OP Town finally OP

We may not know scum prefer the higher level but we can safely assume 5 levels exist for a reason and in my opinion the above is that reason.

Each level is a boost to scum. for us to get to level 5 we need to have 4 kills and clear 480 posts. (WCS)

That will take a while. but on words alone? getting to level 5 we need 600 post (120x5?)

I doubt we can do that in a day but perhaps we can. we certainly cant do it today though not without spamming up the thread, or pointing fingers at everyone else (helping no one but scum.)

Rikkters read is right on the money if scum level according to the above. if we get stuck at an NK around level 4? the damage scum could inflict could lose us the game. We don't know that yes but we have little control on it and assuming WCS is the best way to go about potentially ridiculous TMDi.

One thing I am sure of. if scum start off OP we have no control but if they gradually get stronger then our only control over them is to lynch the likes of you, padding posts and filling the thread up with unusable over extended arguments.


Sure I was wrong at the begining but I hope to follow a low posting attitude till I am sure I can happily land at 600 posts with as little levels in-between meeting timeout. Thats a sound tactic to fall back on.


Really did not think this needed explaining to town. Scum would not be happy if we kept leveling to a minimum till we were ready and shot for level 5 day 2 when we could avoid the weird gap in-between the levels. GL you are sounding alot like scum right now opposing Rikkters very basic and very sound strategy.

If I was not curious about the possibility MO is a killer getting signalled I'd vote you.

Edit: Changed BCS to WCS

Lol, I know that I just said we should cut this sort of discussion, but...

This post makes absolutely no sense.

What on earth does Bek mean by "till we were ready"? When does one know they are "ready" to go for Level 5? "Right lads, we've got everything sorted, we've got the scum on the run, now let's push!" Erm...

Not to mention this is coupled with the fact that Bek wants to get there by reaching 600 posts...only, you know, doing so without the high posters, whom Bek would like to see lynched, so that "we have control." By we, Bek presumably means "Bek", because I don't see how he can speak for everyone. But despite that, after those high posters are gone, when the time is absolutely right, Bek still wants to reach those 600 posts in a matter of a day? Presumably with the handful of players which are now left. Right. Ok then. Realistic strategising here.

600 or even 480 posts in a day is unrealistic, no matter who is involved. Bek says we certainly can't do it today without spamming up the thread - as if that wouldn't be the case on every other single day too. This is a nonsense post, and I'm calling it out as such.

So that was mildly irritating to read through this morning. You must not have ever played a game with Grief, Mentalist, and Lio. I believe that on one day Grief and Lio reached 750+ posts. The second they might have gotten to 1000 more. I would wake up and look at the thread and rather then 12 pages there was 45. It was fucking insanely awesome. A bitch to read through though.

48.5 is still the champion of day 1 spam.

5 players.

1 post per minute.

Each.

For several hours.

[Okral Lom]

Alkend, on 01 April 2014 - 02:38 PM, said:

Okral Lom, on 01 April 2014 - 02:03 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 01 April 2014 - 11:23 AM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 01 April 2014 - 09:11 AM, said:

GL I have a preposition for you on why 5 levels exist.

Level one. scum weak Town weak

Level two scum stronger Town weaker

Level three Scum even Stronger Town even weaker

Level four Scum kicking ass. Town at their weakest

Level 5 Scum OP Town finally OP

We may not know scum prefer the higher level but we can safely assume 5 levels exist for a reason and in my opinion the above is that reason.

Each level is a boost to scum. for us to get to level 5 we need to have 4 kills and clear 480 posts. (WCS)

That will take a while. but on words alone? getting to level 5 we need 600 post (120x5?)

I doubt we can do that in a day but perhaps we can. we certainly cant do it today though not without spamming up the thread, or pointing fingers at everyone else (helping no one but scum.)

Rikkters read is right on the money if scum level according to the above. if we get stuck at an NK around level 4? the damage scum could inflict could lose us the game. We don't know that yes but we have little control on it and assuming WCS is the best way to go about potentially ridiculous TMDi.

One thing I am sure of. if scum start off OP we have no control but if they gradually get stronger then our only control over them is to lynch the likes of you, padding posts and filling the thread up with unusable over extended arguments.


Sure I was wrong at the begining but I hope to follow a low posting attitude till I am sure I can happily land at 600 posts with as little levels in-between meeting timeout. Thats a sound tactic to fall back on.


Really did not think this needed explaining to town. Scum would not be happy if we kept leveling to a minimum till we were ready and shot for level 5 day 2 when we could avoid the weird gap in-between the levels. GL you are sounding alot like scum right now opposing Rikkters very basic and very sound strategy.

If I was not curious about the possibility MO is a killer getting signalled I'd vote you.

Edit: Changed BCS to WCS

Lol, I know that I just said we should cut this sort of discussion, but...

This post makes absolutely no sense.

What on earth does Bek mean by "till we were ready"? When does one know they are "ready" to go for Level 5? "Right lads, we've got everything sorted, we've got the scum on the run, now let's push!" Erm...

Not to mention this is coupled with the fact that Bek wants to get there by reaching 600 posts...only, you know, doing so without the high posters, whom Bek would like to see lynched, so that "we have control." By we, Bek presumably means "Bek", because I don't see how he can speak for everyone. But despite that, after those high posters are gone, when the time is absolutely right, Bek still wants to reach those 600 posts in a matter of a day? Presumably with the handful of players which are now left. Right. Ok then. Realistic strategising here.

600 or even 480 posts in a day is unrealistic, no matter who is involved. Bek says we certainly can't do it today without spamming up the thread - as if that wouldn't be the case on every other single day too. This is a nonsense post, and I'm calling it out as such.

So that was mildly irritating to read through this morning. You must not have ever played a game with Grief, Mentalist, and Lio. I believe that on one day Grief and Lio reached 750+ posts. The second they might have gotten to 1000 more. I would wake up and look at the thread and rather then 12 pages there was 45. It was fucking insanely awesome. A bitch to read through though.

48.5 is still the champion of day 1 spam.

5 players.

1 post per minute.

Each.

For several hours.

Honestly it was a brilliant. You couldn't read through it at all. I don't think anyone went back more then 5 pages to build any case. There was just to much volume. I think that when ever someone got on to complain it was quickly buried pages by the time they were able to make a second comment.

[Alkend]

I don't have much faith in day 1 signaling cases. The chimpanzee stuff is too easy to both happen and be misconstrued. Not gonna vote that way.

Galayn Lord seems really wishywashy to me, though. He's shifted his "target" focus a couple times. Seems like he implied at one point that he has no level 5 ability, which the OP says all townies have. Very suspicious. Not a ton to go on, but the best day 1 choice IMO.

Vote Galayn Lord

[Okral Lom]

Alkend, on 01 April 2014 - 02:48 PM, said:

I don't have much faith in day 1 signaling cases. The chimpanzee stuff is too easy to both happen and be misconstrued. Not gonna vote that way.

Galayn Lord seems really wishywashy to me, though. He's shifted his "target" focus a couple times. Seems like he implied at one point that he has no level 5 ability, which the OP says all townies have. Very suspicious. Not a ton to go on, but the best day 1 choice IMO.

Vote Galayn Lord

See I have liked how GL and Tiam have been pushing and prodding the game. It is some of the baahumbugs that I am disliking.

[Lock]

Monok Ochem, on 01 April 2014 - 02:29 PM, said:

I'm curious as to.Locks motivation.

appears, drops a vote on a (as so far today) non candidate then pisses off. Not feeling any of the other options Lock?



GLs case on Bek is quite logical, though it pains me to add yet another to a list of possibly maybe, suggested by.my main possibly.maybe

was Locks a cross post, or a direct response to GLs case (wifom of the highest degree I am aware). But all said I want more from Lock on this one. Was he distracting from anything at all?

There have been 4 posts since my vote and your complaint here. And not one of those posts addressed my Alkend vote. What do you want me to do, come on and scream PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEEeeeeeee?

[Lock]

Alkend, on 01 April 2014 - 02:37 PM, said:

Lock, on 01 April 2014 - 01:31 PM, said:

Vote Alkend

Day 1, looking away from the loud people we get Alkend who checks in, comments on Tapper's acronym and then this post is their attempt at substance.

OMGUS!

Yes, that was an attempt at substance. Are you saying I should not try to post any substance? You would rather I just make "Checking in, but I have nothing to say" posts?

I'm saying your substance is lacking substance and therefore looks suspiciously like someone just trying to appear helpful without actually contributing.

[Galayn Lord]

Alkend, on 01 April 2014 - 02:48 PM, said:

I don't have much faith in day 1 signaling cases. The chimpanzee stuff is too easy to both happen and be misconstrued. Not gonna vote that way.

Galayn Lord seems really wishywashy to me, though. He's shifted his "target" focus a couple times. Seems like he implied at one point that he has no level 5 ability, which the OP says all townies have. Very suspicious. Not a ton to go on, but the best day 1 choice IMO.

Vote Galayn Lord

Gorilla and Monkey have been used but not chimpanzee. This looks like deflection away from MO, especially at us locked 2 for 2 in votes.

Wishy Washy in what way, because throughout the game I have stuck to my thoughts. The Denul vote was in hope that he would post but we are getting close to the end of the day and I think Bek looked to be the scummiest person on thread so far.

Of course I am going to look at multiple targets, it is day one.

Why do you need the OP to let you know what abilities townies may have? I was addressing Korabas when I mentioned this as I don't want to paint a target on my back.

That whole post is scummy to be honest Alkend.

[Galayn Lord]

Now to remove my vote from Bek onto Monok or Alkend would be wishy washy. I'll be around later and will add my vote to get a lynch but I am going to be away for the next few hours. Checking in from my phone and such.

[Lock]

I agree with GL. I called Alkend out, and he comes on and defends and votes, giving no better than a sort-of reason for the vote. Again, it smells like "Oh, I must contribute."

[Lock]

I'm leaving for now, should be back before timeout. I'm happy with my vote where it is for the time being.

[Ampelas]

im around but sort of busy, give me a bit to read up

[Alkend]

Lock, you're weird. You want complete conviction on day 1? That's bullshit, I don't know enough and there hasn't been enough of anything for me to have conviction. That supposed "sort-of reason" is my actual thoughts, I'm not going to make up an essay about how GL's use of past particip articles makes him 106% definitive scum. That you think I should have to... is rather stupid actually. Extraordinarily stupid, IMO.

You're picking a fight here where there really isn't one, and where there isn't much of a reason to have one. That sounds more like fake "substance" than anything.