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Posted 16 October 2015 - 03:01 PM

View PostObdigore, on 16 October 2015 - 02:43 PM, said:

Did the raid last night with 2 newbies. Failed like 8 times on the Sisters then 1shot Oryx.

I hate having 306 shoulders, and getting 3 more titan raid shoulders and they are all under that. DAMN YOU RNGESUS!

So, everyone seems to be whining about Sunbreakers in IB, claiming they have 7 hammers, seeking hammers, health regen, and can't be 1-shot killed... You can't have 7 hammers, seeking hammers, or health regen at the same time. And not being able to be one shot killed is running full armor.

Titans finally have a viable PvP spec (well, the super is, our melee is still weaker than the other classes, despite being 'punchers') and people are whiiiining. It almost makes me want to play IB.


I'll chime in on that having encountered a titan in IB last night who basically was sunbreaker hammer man killing a bunch of people (he missed me long enough that I was able to shoot him down), and as I took him down to no health and thought I'd killed him, he regenerated. So, I don't know what's going on there, but he did this multiple times in multiple IB control matches. If you can't Subreaker AND then immediately health Regen, then he's goddamned magic. I don't find it annoying enough to whine about it, but when I'm on a streak and I LEGIT take him out WHILE he's in Sunbreaker mode (though enough if he's got hammers left to wing at me)...having him health regen right after is completely and utterly OTT. Just my opinion. I can't speak to his armor as I didn't inspect him after the matches, could not be bothered.

I DID unload an entire clip into his avatar-corpse (my version of teabagging; showing on his kill screen before he re-spawns) after I DID finally take him out later...just to nudge him that his overpower was not going to save him all the time.

Having said that, I've only encountered this with that one guy so far...but still. I can understand in Mayhem mode where super bars fill faster than stink...but in a regular IB Control match? I don't see how that's NOT overpowered.
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Posted 16 October 2015 - 03:09 PM

So the Sunbreaker has multiple abilities in the same row.

1) Extra time/hammers in sunbreaker (from 3-4 to 7)
2) Cauterize (initiates health regen on kill)

and then on a different row you get:

1) 'Seeking' hammers that have "light" target acquisition
2) 'Sunspots' AoE at hammer impacts.

You can only choose one or the other on each of these, and when I see people complaining they complain about every sunbreaker having those 4 things at the same time.

Also when I say armor, it means you select for armor in your skills, which means your agility and regen are way low. High armor is supposed to be what a titan does. Why this is seen as unfair I don't know.
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Posted 16 October 2015 - 03:25 PM

View PostObdigore, on 16 October 2015 - 03:09 PM, said:

So the Sunbreaker has multiple abilities in the same row.

1) Extra time/hammers in sunbreaker (from 3-4 to 7)
2) Cauterize (initiates health regen on kill)

and then on a different row you get:

1) 'Seeking' hammers that have "light" target acquisition
2) 'Sunspots' AoE at hammer impacts.

You can only choose one or the other on each of these, and when I see people complaining they complain about every sunbreaker having those 4 things at the same time.

Also when I say armor, it means you select for armor in your skills, which means your agility and regen are way low. High armor is supposed to be what a titan does. Why this is seen as unfair I don't know.


Ah! I was unaware. So I was falling victim to the first set then. I think that's overpowered in comparison with what Hunter's and Warlock's get. Since it's a bonus on top of the existing super. Full Nightstalker is 3-quiver and sticky targets...and Stormcaller is radial lightning explosion around you (taking out those close to you), and then the force lightning and float. Through both of these maxed out supers, an attacker can shoot me down and I die. The difference for Sunbreaker is that they have that much power AND can regen health after. I'm not saying it's completely offside, but it's at the very least unbalanced. I see it as a challenge though.

As to armor, oh I agree, If you spend the time arming your titan to the tits as is required, then no one should find that a complain-able offense. I've never thought I should be able to take out a titan on one-shot, they are a tank for a reason, right? So, that bit's not unfair at all.
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Posted 16 October 2015 - 06:47 PM

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View PostBriar King, on 16 October 2015 - 06:01 AM, said:

Omg that IB sidearm is DOPE! Tat tat tat and down goes guardians.


What IB sidearm?


The pistol Saladin is selling.



Oooooo, I did not know. I'll go have a look tonight! Woot! Thanks for the heads up BK.
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Posted 17 October 2015 - 01:07 AM

View PostQuickTidal, on 16 October 2015 - 03:25 PM, said:

View PostObdigore, on 16 October 2015 - 03:09 PM, said:

So the Sunbreaker has multiple abilities in the same row.

1) Extra time/hammers in sunbreaker (from 3-4 to 7)
2) Cauterize (initiates health regen on kill)

and then on a different row you get:

1) 'Seeking' hammers that have "light" target acquisition
2) 'Sunspots' AoE at hammer impacts.

You can only choose one or the other on each of these, and when I see people complaining they complain about every sunbreaker having those 4 things at the same time.

Also when I say armor, it means you select for armor in your skills, which means your agility and regen are way low. High armor is supposed to be what a titan does. Why this is seen as unfair I don't know.


Ah! I was unaware. So I was falling victim to the first set then. I think that's overpowered in comparison with what Hunter's and Warlock's get. Since it's a bonus on top of the existing super. Full Nightstalker is 3-quiver and sticky targets...and Stormcaller is radial lightning explosion around you (taking out those close to you), and then the force lightning and float. Through both of these maxed out supers, an attacker can shoot me down and I die. The difference for Sunbreaker is that they have that much power AND can regen health after. I'm not saying it's completely offside, but it's at the very least unbalanced. I see it as a challenge though.

As to armor, oh I agree, If you spend the time arming your titan to the tits as is required, then no one should find that a complain-able offense. I've never thought I should be able to take out a titan on one-shot, they are a tank for a reason, right? So, that bit's not unfair at all.


No, it's one or the other for each set. You can't have extra hammers AND health regeneration on kill.

What you were seeing was almost certainly someone manipulating their connection to be lagging, not actual abilities.
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Posted 18 October 2015 - 05:16 AM

View PostBriar King, on 16 October 2015 - 06:57 PM, said:

Need to be lvl 4 to purchase it though.

I'm starting my Warlock run now.


Lol, so it turns out that as I was upping my IB rating to get it....I already had it in my inventory somehow. It's damned sweet. The speed of the pops...nice stuff
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Posted 21 October 2015 - 01:43 AM

got to 309 tonight, and I got the 310 raid pulse rifle with firefly.

Probably not doing HM until next monday at the earliest, as my weekend is pretty full.

If anyone gets in there and has tips for what they finish, post em up!
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Posted 28 October 2015 - 03:44 AM

View PostBriar King, on 19 October 2015 - 06:19 AM, said:

I just pulled off the best 4 kill Nova bomb on Warlock. I've done it before but that one earned me exactly 5K points at end of match to get the IB bounty for highest score. I just have Hunter left but I'm not skilled enough to ever get high pts on him. Maybe with blade dancer I can manage tomorrow to get those last 25 LM


Haha, funny story from my time in IB - we were about to win the game, and I could see my team were mostly in one area. I had a full Nova Bomb ready to go, and thought..."I bet all the enemies are on B." because I could see it being taken. So I headed over there, half-expecting to get killed. Nope. Ran up the ramp (it was the Vex-gate map) to B, and could see these guys wondering what the hell I was doing as they started to shoot me. Watched with glee as they slowly realised what was about to happen and backpeddled (when a lone Warlock jumps in the air...you know what's coming). Too late! Dropped a Nova Bomb that wiped their entire team (yes, all 6 were on one capture point) and ended the game. I was so fucking happy with that. XD
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Posted 28 October 2015 - 07:29 AM

View PostBriar King, on 28 October 2015 - 04:01 AM, said:

That is impressive. I've gotten 5 numerous times with Titan fist and one 5 with Nova on Burning Shrine as they stood waiting on Heavy crate and that was pretty epic.

Did you see the Stormcaller 7th Colum vid on the companion app yet? I couldn't believe that shit

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Will have to check it out when I'm not at work. XD

You pretty much need a perfect opportunity and Shatter on your NB to get more than 5. It was a pretty much unique moment in my crucible experience (usually at least one person is too far away, lol).
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Posted 28 October 2015 - 10:20 AM

It sucks that the masks aren't worth anything defense-wise...but they are pretty cool.

I once wiped 5 players out in RIFT because they ALL followed me to their Rift and when I dunked it I got 5 of them, one straggler was too far away to get caught in the blast, but I turned and took him out with my main...close but no cigar.

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Posted 29 October 2015 - 02:33 PM

The Halloween stuff, decorations, music, new map, collecting candies (and a box of rasins from Eris!) and all such stuff is a nice little add to the Destiny world. I'm wholly convinced now that Christmas will feature a similar theme and I'd love to see the Tower coated in snow and holly.
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Posted 29 October 2015 - 02:35 PM

Xur is going to be santa with a dark tentacle beard.
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Posted 29 October 2015 - 02:57 PM

View PostObdigore, on 29 October 2015 - 02:35 PM, said:

Xur is going to be santa with a dark tentacle beard.


That would be really excellent.
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Posted 31 October 2015 - 01:33 PM

Xur has the Zhalo super cell this weekend folk. The fastest damned rate of fire ever
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Posted 31 October 2015 - 01:47 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 31 October 2015 - 01:33 PM, said:

Xur has the Zhalo super cell this weekend folk. The fastest damned rate of fire ever


Nah, it's not super-high ROF. It's up there, but the main reason I like it is that it isn't that stupid no-impact-max-ROF archetype. It's an excellent weapon "out of the box", the lightning rounds are decent, and it hits hard enough to make the mid-size mag acceptable. Then you get the final perk, and it becomes a mob-clearing deathstorm of a gun. Lightning chains, speeding the time to kill. Double kills return ammo to the mag, extending it indefinitely without need to reload, then the lightning procs more often. All the while, it's charging your super. It's almost OP. XD
Plus, who doesn't like damage-type primaries?

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 02:22 PM

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View PostQuickTidal, on 31 October 2015 - 01:33 PM, said:

Xur has the Zhalo super cell this weekend folk. The fastest damned rate of fire ever


Nah, it's not super-high ROF.


Huh, yes it is....it's within like 10% of the full bar.

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At any rate, I've maxed it out now, and goddamn that last perk is amazing. Not just in PvP, but in PvE too...just the most incredible autorifle I've ever used in the game.
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 01:49 AM

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View PostQuickTidal, on 31 October 2015 - 01:33 PM, said:

Xur has the Zhalo super cell this weekend folk. The fastest damned rate of fire ever


Nah, it's not super-high ROF.


Huh, yes it is....it's within like 10% of the full bar.

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At any rate, I've maxed it out now, and goddamn that last perk is amazing. Not just in PvP, but in PvE too...just the most incredible autorifle I've ever used in the game.


Ah, you don't understand. There are three archetypes of auto rifle. Zhalo is the middle rof type, not the max rof type. The max rof type have 99% rof and magazines bigger than 50 rounds. Zhalo is not that archetype, thus I was pointing out that it's not, as you stated, "the fastest damned rate of fire ever", as it's actually middle of the road/a bit slow for Destiny auto rifles. XD

It is truly fantastic though. I find it decent in pvp but it really shines in PvE.
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 07:18 PM

The tea bagging going on in Crucible is getting TEDIOUS now. Do they honestly think the most mature way to approach a match or a PvP kill is to squat up and down on the avatar? Like what do they get from this? I know we've been over this before, but I simply can't understand this action. I don't get how that services the player, other than in some bizarre self righteous way. Like isn't getting the kill enough to let the other player know you bested them? Is squatting your digital sack on their avatar doing something for you?

Man, I just don't get it.

Maybe I'm not part of the generation that does this? I dunno.
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 08:57 PM

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I love doing it if it's earned. 4plus kills where it's obvious they are trying to come for you. Only time I do on one time is if it's a chasing match all over map before the sweet taste of blood flows.


I can understand that to an extent, though I'd never do it. But these are regular ass single kills. It's baffling.
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 11:13 PM

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View PostBriar King, on 03 November 2015 - 08:23 PM, said:

I love doing it if it's earned. 4plus kills where it's obvious they are trying to come for you. Only time I do on one time is if it's a chasing match all over map before the sweet taste of blood flows.


I can understand that to an extent, though I'd never do it. But these are regular ass single kills. It's baffling.


Welcome to the internet. My opinion is well known on this issue, and it's a dead give away that your opponent is a total douche bag. XD
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