[D'rek]

Isn't/wasn't Joss only writing the first episode though?

[QuickTidal]

D, on 25 September 2013 - 08:04 PM, said:

Isn't/wasn't Joss only writing the first episode though?

Yes, but Joss surrounds himself with like-minded writers...as Buffy attests to.

[QuickTidal]

I'm calling two things.

1. Coulson is a Clone. Or a Robot.

2. Melinda May's reason for "not wanting to be in the field" anymore...she was the pilot of the plane that launched the Nuke in AVENGERS.

[Macros]

Considering Nick fury was against number 2 I don't think that'll be the reason for May.

caught the first episode, wonder how long they'll ride the Tahiti thing.
It was ok, a decent set up for the crew, I'm glad its not about a team of supers smashing shit up every week, it seems its going to be about humanities answers to the powers manifesting all over the place. I'll give it a shot, the first episode was slow but by necessity to set the whole thing up.

[Use Of Weapons]

I liked it very much -- in fact, I loved it -- but it did seem like a Fringe episode from around season 2. I hope they move on from that, the larger arcs that seemed to be in play will quickly differentiate it from other shows, I'm hoping. But if they need to use the existing universe that the films fans are aware of to tie in events, that will get old quickly. The clunky callout to 'Romanov' as the only recognisable spy skills benchmark was painful.

[QuickTidal]

Second episode.

Decent. A team builder ep.

A bit predictable though. The dialogue is again what helps it win through for me...

That and the last surprise scene:

Spoiler

I KNEW Samuel Jackson's Nick Fury was going to be the first of the film characters to show up on the show. It was a funny scene with him chewing Coulson out.

Also, When they showed Sky her new "bunk" on the plane...I want a bunk like that. I dunno why.

[Tiste Simeon]

QuickTidal, on 25 September 2013 - 11:02 PM, said:

D, on 25 September 2013 - 08:04 PM, said:

Isn't/wasn't Joss only writing the first episode though?

Yes, but Joss surrounds himself with like-minded writers...as Buffy attests to.

Including his brother Jed, and Jed's wife Maurissa Tancharoen, whom I both love as writers from Dr Horrible (both with cameos too!) Plus Jed Whedon has a really chilled album called "The History of Forgotten Things" which I realise as I write this is completely irrelevant to the rest of the thread so I won't mention it again.

Already know I am going to love this show. First ep, while possibly suffering from stuff all mentioned previously, was entertaining and I think the team has really good dynamics. Mr Super Soldier and Ms Computer Hacker in a Van lady will no doubt hate each other but end up together. As will sexy British science girl and amusing Scottish engineer chap.

Intruiged by May as well as the Tahiti/"He Doesn't Know" thing. ALSO, FLIPPING SHEPHERD BOOK WAS IN IT!! Seriously hoping for other Firefly cameos too. (Summer Glau, oh hells yeah!)

In Joss we trust indeed...

[bubba]

Ok so the "Phil is a robot" hypothesis is out, the scene with him bleeding killed that.....

New hypothesis....."they saved him with Khan's blood".

[QuickTidal]

Bubba, on 02 October 2013 - 09:47 PM, said:

Ok so the "Phil is a robot" hypothesis is out, the scene with him bleeding killed that.....

New hypothesis....."they saved him with Khan's blood".

Robots can bleed. Cylons.

[Jakovasaurus]

He survived by sipping margaritas and listening to Jimmy Buffet in Tahiti. "It's a magical place". Now he has the zen dudeness power of calm and can chillax his way around any situation.

[Studlock]

Pretty sure it has something to do with Asgard as with continued use of 'it's a magical place'. Nick Fury cameo is easily the best part of the show so far. Kind of disappointed that they don't have ONE character from the comics on the team, literally dozens of characters could be on the show but they decide to make new ones? Why? Also it annoys me because eventually they're going to show up in the comics (which isn't a inherently bad thing but really none of the characters are all that interesting!) and have priority over comic characters. Basically where is my Jimmy Woo and Mockingbird and Misty Knight! Other than that it's always bothered me that Shield (in the comics as well, but they do a touch better), despite being an international organization, has agents who are always white or american, not a deal breaker but it does take me out of the show.

[HoosierDaddy]

The fact that the other agents know and aren't really freaked out about it makes me less likely to think it's a brand new Coulsen (a la cloning) but rather he either went somewhere really weird to get healed (Asgard) or some as yet unseen was used on him.

[D'rek]

I guess the Whedons felt that the walking-stick-shoots-energy-wave-that-kills-everyone-standing-up didn't get enough viewers in Serenity.

This post has been edited by D'rek: 03 October 2013 - 02:04 AM

[Cause]

The Cavalry thing Im sure is from the comics, I think the name of the person who is the cavalry has changed though

I have watched two episodes and while its not bad my thoughts run along similiar lines to the rest of you. We can only stomach so many clunky references to the movies before that bridge is burnt completely. Hell in the first episode alone we have one guy hooked up to extremis, gamma radiation and I forget what else. The second episode has a teseract weapon!

My biggest complaint though is the show seems to have a very specific target audience in mind and its clearly adolescent teen males. I would have expected them to try to hook in male and females aged 10-30 or even broader but that does not seem to be the case. The shows seems very dumbed down and simple in its characterization, plots and action so far.

[QuickTidal]

As is usually with his shows, Whedon's TV usually take a number of first season eps to establish itself and get REALLY going.

I hope the same is true here.

DOLLHOUSE, for example, didn't get properly going till near the end of Season 1. But once it did, it fired on all pistons.

So yeah, fingers crossed.

Cause is right, they can only milk the movies for references for a few eps before that's going to get old.

[Macros]

Second ep was ok, setting up the teams dynamic and proving me right that mai had.nothing tk do with new York.

[Studlock]

The Cavalry was a team part of the Avengers: Initiative according to wikipedia, and I read that comic and only two of them (Thor Girl and Ultragirl) showed up with any kind of regulatory. As a single costumed hero, I'm pretty sure one never existed in the main marvel universe. It's be cool if they started a kind of '50 state initiative' storyline but I doubt Melinda May has any connection to the team from the comics.

[polishgenius]

Cause, on 04 October 2013 - 09:33 AM, said:

The Cavalry thing Im sure is from the comics, I think the name of the person who is the cavalry has changed though

The name of the person changed from the original draft of the script. Like Studlock says, I don't think there's been any individual hero called that.

[Primateus]

After watching a couple of episodes of Avengers: Earths Mightiest Heroes today I realized I'd love to see a place like the Vault or the Raft on this show

[Gnaw]

QuickTidal, on 02 October 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

Also, When they showed Sky her new "bunk" on the plane...I want a bunk Sky like that. I dunno why.

Fixed that for you.

Ref your spoiler

Spoiler

I'm still have issues with Robin Scherbatsky as a SHIELD agent, let alone as Fury's right hand.