[Khellendros]

Karsa, on 01 May 2013 - 04:57 AM, said:

Oh yeah, Trull was the hypnotist or whatever. Yeah, that was horrible luck for us getting stuck with him and being able to CF as town. But you called it as soon as he died and came yo town. It was just too late by that point for it to matter, anyway. We needed to have trusted each other, and kept twelve alive, but most important, we should have put more pressure on dkt to stay sided with us. We failed to keep him to our cause. His not voting there at the end hurt. I just wish we, as Essels,had had SOME bit of communication or something. None of us knew who was on our team or what they could do. I knew you and Galain were on my team pretty sure, and thought you were a dumbass for believing Dude for that list where he labeled all the town either erikson or essel. I knew dude was just bullshitting because he was wrong about half the list, but figured he was just doing his thing and just ignored it. I think he sucked you in with that, though. You just were willing to assume I was erikson there at the end for no real reason. If we knew at least a LITTLE about our team, it would have been better. I could have traded heals with twelve at least. I thought I did save your ass when I healed you. Not sure. I saved my own ass bouncing a heal off Galain back to me the night Sukul tried to kill me. Anyway, me and Khell were playing, I just wasn't posting a lot. Some of out allies got the apathy Dude mentioned.

A huge difference would have been not losing Silencer, Azath, and there was someone else to non activity.

Gah, I didn't fall for the list, I knew it was bull because of 1) the lover connections that twelve had set up earlier in the game, and 2) my own finding abilities.

The reason I thought you were Erikson was because I already knew a seeming shitton of Essels. It didn't occur to me that the town teams could have started out uneven in numbers (although it should have). So it just seemed natural to assume you were Erikson. And then Kesso kept guarding me (instead of the SK?!?!) so for several days I couldn't do a find on you.

Don't think anybody ever saved me I think I was targetted for a kill four times. Three times it succeeded, and the other time my own BP stopped it.

Agreed on Silencer, Azath, and Bent was the other one we also lost.

[King Lear]

Khellendros, on 01 May 2013 - 03:34 AM, said:

Obdigore, on 01 May 2013 - 03:29 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 01 May 2013 - 03:26 AM, said:

Obdigore, on 01 May 2013 - 02:52 AM, said:

The Dude, on 30 April 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

4. Obdi/Ghennen volunteering to be silenced and Fener doing it. I wouldn't have won if this didn't happen. I was going to be lynched the next day, I had to talk my way out of it with the recruiter fake reveal. If I had been silenced, there is no way I could have weaseled my way out of a lynch that day and I would have been on to alt#2 with everyone knowing who I was and not enough defense to win.

This isn't true. By the time I volunteered to be silenced town was convinced that the serial killer was magically going to let them win the game. The idiotic 'if hes the SK, why isn't scum killing him' made me want to strangle puppies.

It wasn't "IF he's the SK, why isn't scum killing him?", but rather, "He IS the SK, why isn't scum killing him?". I sense that we can go round and round on this one till kingdom come

Either way, it is a retarded sentiment. Why do you think scum wouldn't have tried killing him numerous times?

Is that a trick question? Scum basically tried all of one time to kill him and, when that didn't work, did nothing. Real good effort for individuals who were going apoplectic at his continued existence. Perhaps a closer read of the Sylar role PM and what it takes to shoot him down would have helped.

And round we go...

As recruited scum I didn't have any kills, you pompous bastard!

[Brujah]

corv, on 30 April 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

Good game all. I assume the SK won (congrats Dude).

I would like to call attention to one thing (also recognizing that the mods particularly D'rek the game creator did a great job putting together an epic game):

My mod kill was justifiable. Mentioning twelve's name (however unintentional and unmalicious this action was) was a violation of the game rules and worthy of a mod-kill.

However, I would like to say that banning me from SH for the remainder of the game was over-the-top, essentially locking me out from enjoying the ensuing weeks of action.

I recognize (but do not respect) the mod's authority to doll out this punishment, but I ask the community to consider preventing such behavior in the future for the benefit of the players who make the games the mod's so wonderfully imagine and create possible.

I will not be playing any future games from this mod, however wonderful they may be.

Lol@you getting mod-killed. I didn't even see what you did.
In my own defense, I know I spazzed out on Eddie, but he started it.

Sucks you couldn't goto SH, though.

[Tattersail_]

What does the Eriksonnian's think of the game? I think we needed more communication, a bigger team or more alts

[dktorode]

Khellendros, on 29 April 2013 - 11:48 PM, said:

Oh come on! Now he's saying that the mod puppet was town - HE FUCKING CF'D AS A GOODKINDER!!!

I was ratehr drunk.

and i believe i at the time i considered scum as "town" too....in my eyes i could win with scum making them potential allies.
When you guys targeted me... i just thought fuck it ill go at this alone.

[Tattersail_]

The Dude outfoxed 27 other players to win all on his own. Taking bets before the game that would have had small odds. MoM from me.

[dktorode]

i dont find it surprising that 2 independents lasted to the very end as generally..those roles are rather over powered to make it more "fair" for being all alone.

but yes...the dude did a great job, however lucky he may have been. You always need some luck to win.

[Tattersail_]

Town decided to keep him alive to attack scum when he was doing the town killing!!

[Khellendros]

dktorode, on 01 May 2013 - 10:53 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 29 April 2013 - 11:48 PM, said:

Oh come on! Now he's saying that the mod puppet was town - HE FUCKING CF'D AS A GOODKINDER!!!

I was ratehr drunk.

and i believe i at the time i considered scum as "town" too....in my eyes i could win with scum making them potential allies.
When you guys targeted me... i just thought fuck it ill go at this alone.

Nobody on town team targetted you, you jackass. How can you blame town for the actions of the mod? Anyway, your chance was blown before then, when your unbelievable refusal to vote for the SK resulted in a no lynch and thus no weakening of the SK. That was horrific play

[Khellendros]

Ganoes Paran, on 01 May 2013 - 11:09 AM, said:

Town decided to keep him alive to attack scum when he was doing the town killing!!

He wasn't killing town - just you. You don't count

[Tattersail_]

Path-Shaper, on 05 April 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

Liosan, on 05 April 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

OH oh and

Day find on Sylar

noted

Path-Shaper, on 05 April 2013 - 03:29 PM, said:

You travel back and time and observe that Sylar has committed the following:

Night 1: kill King Squid

Night 2: kill Eldar Harlequin

Night 3: kill Eldar Harlequin

Day 4: kill Frederic Madnok

Night 4: Kill Praetor, Kill Casca

Night 5: Kill Mike Newton

Night 6: Guard Locke Lamora, kill Mohinder Suresh

Night 7 - guard Chaos Sorceror

Liosan, on 05 April 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

Thank you, my darling PS whoever-you-are.

Now i have to figure out what all that means.

[Tattersail_]

Dude can you list all the kills attributed to you?

[D'rek]

Ganoes Paran, on 01 May 2013 - 11:30 AM, said:

Dude can you list all the kills attributed to you?

It's on the front page, just look for the purple!

[Tattersail_]

12 town kills were attributed to the SK directly. Only 2/3 scum kills to the SK.

I killed 3 scum and 1 town with that vig.

We were wrong to keep SK alive. I admit it!!!

D, on 29 January 2013 - 10:54 PM, said:

Current Status:

---

Esselmontarian #1 (EmperorMagus)
1> Korbas -- Seguleh First (Maf39)
>>> RELOADED: Sorrit - killed Night 9 because he attacked the Serial Killer
2> Okaros -- Alan Turing (Maf53.5) - killed by Tulas Shorn night 10
3> Galain -- Tenzin (Maf95) - killed by Hentos Ilm on day 20

Esselmontarian #2 (Khellendros)
1> Ampelas -- Roleless Discoer (Maf32)
>>> RELOADED: Karosis - killed by Fener night 10
2> Kaschan -- One-Eye (Maf75) - killed by Fener night 11
3> Ryadd Eleis -- Cen Pi (Maf63.5)

Esselmontarian #3(Silencer)
1> Liosan -- Malkavian Antitribu (Maf43)
>>> RELOADED: Denul - killed by Iparth Erule day 10
2> Aparal Forge -- Female Rebel (Maf75) - Killed by Tulas Shorn day 14
3> Kedeviss -- Sofie Fatale (Maf55) - killed by Sukul Ankhadu on night 15 - modkilled for inactivity instead of getting to beg for her life

Esselmontarian #4 (Azathmaster)
1> Silchas Ruin -- ifyouguess (Maf36.5)
>>> RELOADED: Demelain - lynched at tribal council on day 10
2> Telas -- BLU Medic (Maf48.5)
3> Kalse -- Newt (Maf40) - modkilled by request day 10

Esselmontarian #5 (twelve)
1> Rashan -- Amee Najayin (Maf89)
>>> RELOADED: Pran Chole - killed by Ampelas night 9
2> Korabas -- Medic (Maf66) - killed by Prazec Goul night 16
3> Rikkter -- Ninja (Maf34.5) - tried to ninja Tulas Shorn on day 17

Esselmontarian #6 (King Lear)-- recruited to the Meyerns on Night 5
1> Mockra -- Daigoro Muto (Maf58.5) Killed by Bek Okhan on night 3
2> Spite -- Inigo Montoya (Maf45) <<< and also Meng Huo
>>> RELOADED: Rashan Killed by Olar Ethil on day 6
3> Lock -- Master Soother (Maf46) - lynched day 8

Esselmontarian #7 (Vengeance) -- recruited to the Meyerns on Night 2
1> Bendal Home -- Raven (Maf75) FM'd into by Ryllandaras night 2
2> Pran Chole -- The Glassblower (Maf82)
>>> RELOADED: D'riss - killed by Pran Chole/Karosis on night 7
3> Anomandaris -- Drunken Surgeon (Maf39.5) - lynched at tribal council on day 10

Esselmontarian #8 (Hoosierdaddy)
1> D'riss -- King Duosi (Maf75.5)
>>> RELOADED: Spite - vigged by Tiamatha day 12
2> Dejim Nebrahl -- Ship's Computer (Maf36.5) - killed by Prazec Goul night 19
3> Eldat Pressen -- (Highlander) Vigilante (Maf49)

Esselmontarian #9 (Bent)
1> Omtose -- Mike Newton (Maf53)
>>> RELOADED: Pallid - Killed by Tulas Shorn on night 5
2> Kadagar Fant -- Alan Turing double (Maf53.5) - modkilled for inactivity day 7
3> Osseric -- Isaac Mendez (Maf33) - modkilled for inactivity day 9

Esselmontarian #10 (Brujah)
1> Demelain -- Alan Turing double (Maf53.5)
>>> RELOADED: Gait - modkilled for meta day 7
2> Barghast -- Simpering Twit (Maf39.5) - killed by Fener night 12
3> Korvalain -- Healer (Maf51.5)

---

Eriksonian #1 (HiddenOne)
1> Tulas Shorn -- Pinhead (Maf60)
>>> RELOADED: Olar Ethil - killed by Sorrit/Fener on night 7
2> Serc -- Vox Populi (Maf37) - killed by Tulas Shorn night 9
3> Okral Lom -- Mistborn (Maf67) - killed by Tulas Shorn on night 18

Eriksonian #2 (Tattersail)
1> Karosis -- Jacob Black (Maf53)
>>> RELOADED: Silanah - killed by Fener night 9
2> Gamelon -- Fake Ninja (Maf 34.5) - killed by Anthras day 11
3> Tiamatha -- Maya (Maf42) - killed by Tulas Shorn on night 13

Eriksonian #3 (Stalker)
1> Galayn Lord -- King Squid (Maf47) - killed via poisoning by Ultama on night 4
2> Pallid -- Peck (Maf35)
>>> RELOADED: Desra - killed by Ampelas on night 7
3> Cast -- Jihad Radio Man (Maf47.5) - killed by Ampelas on night 10

Eriksonian #4 (High House Dark)
1> Nenanda -- Zahska Taraq (Maf89) Killed by Tellan on day 2
2> Thyrllan -- Frederic Madnok (Mafia 47) Killed by Desra on Day 4
3> Olar Ethil -- Hiro Nakamura (Maf33)
>>> RELOADED: Liosan - killed by Sheltatha Lore on night 13

Eriksonian #5 (Gust Hubb) -- recruited to the Goodkinders on Night 5
1> Monok Ochem -- Forest St. John - 009 (Maf52) - killed by Ay Estos in night 4
2> Tennes -- Mohinder Suresh (Maf33)
>>> RELOADED: Fanderay - killed by Tulas Shorn night 6
3> Emurlahnis -- Dong Zhuo (Maf50) - modkilled for meta day 7


Eriksonian #6 (Obdigore) -- recruited to the Meyerns on Day 6
1> Denesmet -- Tarrlok (Maf95) Killed by Bek Okhan on day 2
2> Sorrit -- Locke Lamora (Maf48)
>>> RELOADED: Bendal Home <<< and also Meng Huo -- Lynched day 13
3> Ghennan -- Forcer (Maf36.5) - Killed by Tulas Shorn day 14

---

Goodkinder #1 (Gnaw) -- [can always talk off-thread with Goodkinder #2]
1> Korlat -- Soulcatcher (Maf75)
>>> RELOADED: Ampelas - vigged by Tiamatha day 12
2> Sheltatha Lore -- Big Ben (Benses) - lynched on day 14
3> Sukul Ankhadu -- Kain (Maf38.5) - killed by his own NK reflecting off Galain's air bending on night 18

Goodkinder #2 (Hinter) -- [can always talk off-thread with Goodkinder #1]
1> Tellan -- Ninja Acolyte (Maf39.5) Killed by Tulas Shorn on night 3
2> Silanah -- Necromancer (Maf38)
>>> RELOADED: Korlat - lynched day 6
3> Alkend -- Steel Inquisitor (Maf67) - lynched day 7

Goodkinder #3 (Trull's Son) -- [CFs as an Eriksonian, knows all of the Goodkinder #1 and #2 alts]
1> Trake -- Uncle Ben (Benses series)
>>> RELOADED: Korbas - lynched at tribal council on day 10
2> Kessobahn -- Hypnotist (Maf38) - lynched day 20
3> Jalan -- Feng Xu (Maf50)

Goodkinder #4 (Lizra) -- [knows Goodkinder #1 and #2, but cannot speak to them]
1> Ultama -- Heavy (Maf64)
>>> RELOADED: Omtose - lynched day 11
2> Karatallid -- Isaac Philby (Maf46.5) - vigged by Tiamatha day 12
3> Merrid -- Lea (Maf91) - killed by Venesara's reactionary vig on night 13

---

Meyern #1 (Lady Bliss)
1> Ryllandaras -- Amon (Mafia95) <<< and also Meng Huo
. . . . .> FMs into Bendal Home
>>> RELOADED: Ultama lynched day 5
2> Fener -- Steve the Tyrant (Maf82) - killed by Sukul Ankhadu on night 15

Meyern #2 (Kurt Montandon)
1> Skintick -- Casca (Maf37) - killed by Desra on night 4
2> Meanas -- Shen Pei (Maf68)
>>> RELOADED: Meanas - Killed by Ampelas on night 5
3> Togg -- Hassan the Dreadfather (Maf94) << SHIELD - Killed by Tulas Shorn day 14

Meyern #3 (Starling)
1> Fanderay -- Chaos Sorceror (Maf66)
>>> RELOADED: Trake << SHIELD - lynched day 9
2> Iparth Erule/Anthras/Grasp -- Mekin Zikulka (Maf89) - vigged by Tiamatha day 12
3> Venesara -- Longinus (Maf37) - lynched day 15

Meyern #4 (Blend)
1> Eloth -- Isabelle Paix (Maf52) - Lynched day 1
2> Ay Estos -- Praetor (Maf37) - killed by Korlat/Desra and ninja'd himself on night 4
3> Denul -- Edward Cullen (Maf53)
>>> RELOADED: Tennes << SHIELD - Lynched day 14

---

Serial Killer (The Dude)
1> Desra -- Sylar (Maf33)
>>> RELOADED: Tulas Shorn - killed by Prazec Goul and Sukul Ankhadu on night 18
2> Hentos Ilm -- The Predator (Maf26/40)
3> Tholen -- Pai Mei (Maf55)

---

Survivor (dktorode)
1> Kilava -- Survivor (Maf87) killed night 2 by Korlat
2> Gait -- Felicity (Maf53)
>>> RELOADED: Silchas Ruin - lynched at tribal council on day 10
3> Nimander Golit -- Estebahn Vihaio (Maf55)
4> Shadow -- Bella/Renesmee (Maf53) (must be last)

---

Jester (Mentalist)
1> Aranatha -- Jesus (Maf40.5) Killed by Korlat on night 1
2> Bek Okhan -- Eldar Harlequin (Maf66) + ninja Killed by Desra on night 3
3> Ruse -- Neo + ninja - killed by Tulas Shorn on night 4

---

Mod Puppet (D'rek/Shin/Tapper) -- recruited to the Goodkinders on Dusk 14
>> Prazec Goul -- Mod Puppet

[dktorode]

Khellendros, on 01 May 2013 - 11:12 AM, said:

dktorode, on 01 May 2013 - 10:53 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 29 April 2013 - 11:48 PM, said:

Oh come on! Now he's saying that the mod puppet was town - HE FUCKING CF'D AS A GOODKINDER!!!

I was ratehr drunk.

and i believe i at the time i considered scum as "town" too....in my eyes i could win with scum making them potential allies.
When you guys targeted me... i just thought fuck it ill go at this alone.

Nobody on town team targetted you, you jackass. How can you blame town for the actions of the mod? Anyway, your chance was blown before then, when your unbelievable refusal to vote for the SK resulted in a no lynch and thus no weakening of the SK. That was horrific play

horrific play FOR YOU mayb...me....i was having fun for the first time since the game started.
And how was i to know i it was the mod for sure?

not my fault all 20 odd of you couldnt get rid of the SK.

[dktorode]

I could easily have won this myself had i taken into account that the SK had yet ANOTHER fucking LP.

....so it goes.

This post has been edited by dktorode: 01 May 2013 - 01:40 PM

[Khellendros]

dktorode, on 01 May 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 01 May 2013 - 11:12 AM, said:

dktorode, on 01 May 2013 - 10:53 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 29 April 2013 - 11:48 PM, said:

Oh come on! Now he's saying that the mod puppet was town - HE FUCKING CF'D AS A GOODKINDER!!!

I was ratehr drunk.

and i believe i at the time i considered scum as "town" too....in my eyes i could win with scum making them potential allies.
When you guys targeted me... i just thought fuck it ill go at this alone.

Nobody on town team targetted you, you jackass. How can you blame town for the actions of the mod? Anyway, your chance was blown before then, when your unbelievable refusal to vote for the SK resulted in a no lynch and thus no weakening of the SK. That was horrific play

horrific play FOR YOU mayb...me....i was having fun for the first time since the game started.
And how was i to know i it was the mod for sure?

not my fault all 20 odd of you couldnt get rid of the SK.

How were you to know? Because the people you blamed subsequently died and their roles were revealed. A quick check of those roles would have shown you that none of them had killing abilities. Don't play the 'it wasn't me' card - you ultimately had as much to lose as everyone else who was not the SK, and you didn't step up when you were most needed.

Perhaps I am over-assigning blame to you. Well, I probably am. But fuck it, that no lynch annoyed me no end

[dktorode]

Khellendros, on 01 May 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

dktorode, on 01 May 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 01 May 2013 - 11:12 AM, said:

dktorode, on 01 May 2013 - 10:53 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 29 April 2013 - 11:48 PM, said:

Oh come on! Now he's saying that the mod puppet was town - HE FUCKING CF'D AS A GOODKINDER!!!

I was ratehr drunk.

and i believe i at the time i considered scum as "town" too....in my eyes i could win with scum making them potential allies.
When you guys targeted me... i just thought fuck it ill go at this alone.

Nobody on town team targetted you, you jackass. How can you blame town for the actions of the mod? Anyway, your chance was blown before then, when your unbelievable refusal to vote for the SK resulted in a no lynch and thus no weakening of the SK. That was horrific play

horrific play FOR YOU mayb...me....i was having fun for the first time since the game started.
And how was i to know i it was the mod for sure?

not my fault all 20 odd of you couldnt get rid of the SK.

How were you to know? Because the people you blamed subsequently died and their roles were revealed. A quick check of those roles would have shown you that none of them had killing abilities. Don't play the 'it wasn't me' card - you ultimately had as much to lose as everyone else who was not the SK, and you didn't step up when you were most needed.

Perhaps I am over-assigning blame to you. Well, I probably am. But fuck it, that no lynch annoyed me no end

Oh they subsequently died....that makes IT AL SO CLEAR.
But guess what at the time I WASN'T ON YOUR TEAM...you need to get that through your skull...i was playing for myself. (one man faction ..helloooooo)

had i not been targeted by someone other than the SK (be it scum or town makes no difference to me), i would have voted SK, but since somebody else was trying to kill me i felt keeping SK around would pose bigger threat than myslef. Why am i even explaining myself to you? I was a ball hair away from winning the thing by myelf.
How did you fair?
Dont come all high and mighty here pal...you make it out as if i cost your team and that i should care? Why should i have cared about you over the scum or mod puupet or anybody else?

And no lynch my fault?...there was enough people alive to lynch without me...yet i am the sole person accountable?

blah blah blah where is that bag o dicks when you need'em.

This post has been edited by dktorode: 01 May 2013 - 01:58 PM

[dktorode]

i was drunk most of the time....but thats the chance you take when you let me sign up....

[Brujah]

Ganoes Paran, on 01 May 2013 - 11:30 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 05 April 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

Liosan, on 05 April 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

OH oh and

Day find on Sylar

noted

Path-Shaper, on 05 April 2013 - 03:29 PM, said:

You travel back and time and observe that Sylar has committed the following:

Night 1: kill King Squid

Night 2: kill Eldar Harlequin

Night 3: kill Eldar Harlequin

Day 4: kill Frederic Madnok

Night 4: Kill Praetor, Kill Casca

Night 5: Kill Mike Newton

Night 6: Guard Locke Lamora, kill Mohinder Suresh

Night 7 - guard Chaos Sorceror

Liosan, on 05 April 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

Thank you, my darling PS whoever-you-are.

Now i have to figure out what all that means.

All of these town kills were BEFORE we even decided to work with him. The rest occurred at the end once it was too late to do anything anyway, and after it was clear we couldn't work together anymore. He didn't kill a single Essel, or if so, maybe only one during the time we were working together.

I still hold to the fact that me and Khell did the right thing given what we knew at the time. Yes, with hindsight and FULL INFO on the game, yes we should have at least killed his first alt, but then we would have had to pick the right alt out of respawns and it would have been harder to convince him to work with us RIGHT after we killed his ass.

The only people complaining are NON-ESSELS. We dropped all the rest of you and you just don't like it. We could have won whether the Survivor lived or died, so out of those roughly 27 people and 81 or so alts, we outlived all but one person, and his last alt. Given the nature of the game, I call that a huge success, whether you guys like it or not.

We accomplished EXACTLY what we hoped to do. My goal was to get rid of EVERYONE else, and get down to the end with us against the SK, then hope we could figure something out. But even if we couldn't kill the SK, it was always a goal and thoroughly satisfying to dead the rest of you all.

Twelve, Khell, Eddie, HD and me > the rest of you. Suck it up. You scum could have offered the SK the exact same deal, and then had a much better chance at winning in the end. Like it or not, we think we did the thing that got us the furthest in the game. Had we helped you guys take out the SK, he would have been raping us instead of mostly ignoring us. And even if we were able to finish him off, we would have been so decimated by then we would have been left in a position to lose to Scum. So yeah, no wonder scum are mad at our choice, and Jou Eriksons just shit the bed, so you guys are just mad period.

And we did it all MINUS THREE ENTIRE PLAYERS. THREE players didn't even play for us and mod-killed for inactivity. Another one or two recruited. So Erikson had more powerful roles, AND we didn't even have the extra numbers we were suppose to have. Me, twelve, HD, Khell, and Eddie just played better. And I wouldn't even be explaining ourselves but if someone keeps saying they think we played it wrong, we're gonna keep disagreeing.

Here's to watching every last one of you except Dude, die before us. It was LOVELY.