[QuickTidal]

Briar King, on 01 April 2020 - 10:21 PM, said:

You can see a tank with 3

Spoiler

Snoke’s

in it.

There’s also the line of dialogue: My boy, I have been every voice you’ve ever heard in your head. As Palps, Snoke, and Vader.

[Traveller]

QuickTidal, on 02 April 2020 - 01:38 AM, said:

Briar King, on 01 April 2020 - 10:21 PM, said:

You can see a tank with 3

Spoiler

Snoke’s

in it.

There’s also the line of dialogue: My boy, I have been every voice you’ve ever heard in your head. As Palps, Snoke, and Vader.

Yeah I got those two; when I watched the movie though I assumed the Ripley-esque Snokes were failed puppets and the one that had appeared in the previous movies was created by him, but was still sort of autonomous - with the voices in Ben's head being that of Palps. Didnt really see Snoke as entirely Palpatine possessing a body until yesterday. I guess his fashion sense alone should have done it, Steve always did like a fancy costume!

[Whisperzzzzzzz]

"another clone he referred to as his 'son', who went AWOL and fathered Rey"

Wow, this is stupid. Glad I chose not to watch this film.

[QuickTidal]

Whisperzzzzzzz, on 02 April 2020 - 12:49 PM, said:

"another clone he referred to as his 'son', who went AWOL and fathered Rey"

Wow, this is stupid. Glad I chose not to watch this film.

I mean, the silly things in this movie do not include this bit. The idea that the Emperor had a clone who went rogue on him and was too human and good to be the evil puppet he needed to eventually inhabit (it shows Anakin's turn as the fluke it really was; I bet that Palpy assumed that anyone he "taught" would turn since he turned such a hero into the bad guy and that theory failed hard)...is actually really cool and I wish they'd explored it more...and Rey's mother being Jodie Comer (from KILLING EVE) makes me wish even more we'd seen more of them. It also fits the "parents left her on Jakku alone" narrative from the angle of "keep her safe from her grandfather's evil machinations". Like it's not perfect, but it works as a reason for Rey being on Jakku more than pretty much anything else I can think of, especially being left with someone like Unkar Plutt.

And I'll say it again, I don't hate Rey Skywalker (adopted name) AT ALL. There are tones of people raised by/influenced by adopted family who take the surnames of those adoptive parents. Luke and Leia are the closest she had to someone since she was six years old and abandoned without a reason why...I would take that name too.

Also, just to add into things I love about this movie? That little blue/green activator light that spins briefly around the top of the hilt of her yellow saber at the end...I ADORE that little attention to detail. It's so tiny, but it's so cool.

Scene:

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 02 April 2020 - 01:29 PM

[Traveller]

I'm quite relieved they went the clone route as that was what he was always into - he frequently took things for experimentation throughout the Clone Wars, and obviously created an entire army that way.

Makes much more sense for him to have made an attempt at cloning himself than it would to have had any sort of natural relationship - that would have been truly unbelievable in that character in every way.

I'm still not sure how it explains Rey seeing her parents leaving in that ship though when its owner was sent to find her. Unless they panic-dumped her on Plutt before getting caught, and then dieda sa result of never giving up where she was?

This post has been edited by Traveller: 02 April 2020 - 05:06 PM

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Traveller, on 02 April 2020 - 04:59 PM, said:

Makes much more sense for him to have made an attempt at cloning himself than it would to have had any sort of natural relationship - that would have been truly unbelievable in that character in every way.

Exactly this. I recall io9 making a whole article about "Palpatine Must Have Fucked"...and most of the sensible "It's probably through cloning" comments were roundly dismissed...becuase the notion that he had sex was more lascivious for clicks....meanwhile the clone theory made an absolute shitonne of logical sense.

[Malankazooie]

Been getting caught up on current events and I came across some sad news reporting that the actor who played General Ematt in TLJ and TFA has died from COVID-19.

https://starwars.fan...ki/Caluan_Ematt

https://star-wars-ca...ki/Caluan_Ematt

The article said he lived on one of the oldest working houseboats on the Thames.

[Tsundoku]

Happy Star Wars Day.

Well, well, well.

http://www.bbc.com/c...ck-is-overrated

"Why The Empire Strikes Back is overrated".

Heresy? Wisdom? A bit of both?
Made me think a bit, at least.

EDIT:
Here's another one to twist your tail.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...er-need-sequels

"Why Star Wars should have stopped at just one film".

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: 04 May 2020 - 08:50 AM

[QuickTidal]

Ever since the sequels dropped, there are entities in the media who try to bring down EMPIRE from its mythic status. They are wrong and stupid. And their motives are suspect anyways.

The clone wars finale was excellent!

And now we will re-watch TROS today!

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 04 May 2020 - 10:43 AM

[Mezla PigDog]

Watched episode IX for the first time since I saw it in the cinema. I like it. Daisy Ridly is a terrible actor still but I liked it anyway. I'm a fan of Kylo Ren but that may only be because Lucas screwed it so bad writing Anakin going dark side.

[Tiste Simeon]

So... Here's a lot of words that sound like there could be news afoot but actually say very little...

https://movieweb.com...e-dates-disney/

[Malankazooie]

I mean....

[QuickTidal]

John Boyega’s GQ interview. Lots of worthy stuff here about him and acting as a POC and the struggles associated in the industry as a whole....He also dives into Star Wars a little more specifically.

Anyways, worth a read for all the content, but some relevant Star Wars stuff as well which is why I posted it here.

But I don’t think this is meant to relitigate sequels, even though he’s quite frank about them, but is more about his experience as a POC in a big tent pole franchise and how that affected him, and I think that’s what’s best to take from it.

https://www.gq-magaz...-interview-2020

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 03 September 2020 - 03:00 AM

[TheRetiredBridgeburner]

It's a great interview - thanks for the link!

Trending on Twitter today is an interview with Daisy Ridley confirming that who Rey was changed over and over again (was going to be Obi Wan's granddaughter, was going to be genuinely nobody) and Adam Driver only filmed the dialogue for the Palpatine reveal three weeks before the premiere.

I mean, it's not surprising and kind of just confirms a lot of what was going wrong, but *sigh*.

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TheRetiredBridgeburner, on 09 September 2020 - 03:35 PM, said:

Trending on Twitter today is an interview with Daisy Ridley confirming that who Rey was changed over and over again (was going to be Obi Wan's granddaughter, was going to be genuinely nobody) and Adam Driver only filmed the dialogue for the Palpatine reveal three weeks before the premiere.

I mean, it's not surprising and kind of just confirms a lot of what was going wrong, but *sigh*.

I saw this. It's not at all surprising. It's not even surprising that Rey Palpatine wasn't even confirmed until after they started shooting TROS.

This is the problem with the lack of planning the ST out as an actual trilogy, as opposed to three separate movies where they throw stuff at the wall and see if it sticks. There was no end goal to seek aside from 'good guys win, bad guys lose'.

I have no idea why they thought that because the OT was made without a plan and miraculously worked, that the same miracle would bear fruit by doing it deliberately...like what even is going on?

[Abyss]

QuickTidal, on 09 September 2020 - 03:52 PM, said:

TheRetiredBridgeburner, on 09 September 2020 - 03:35 PM, said:

Trending on Twitter today is an interview with Daisy Ridley confirming that who Rey was changed over and over again (was going to be Obi Wan's granddaughter, was going to be genuinely nobody) and Adam Driver only filmed the dialogue for the Palpatine reveal three weeks before the premiere.

I mean, it's not surprising and kind of just confirms a lot of what was going wrong, but *sigh*.

I saw this. It's not at all surprising. It's not even surprising that Rey Palpatine wasn't even confirmed until after they started shooting TROS.

This is the problem with the lack of planning the ST out as an actual trilogy, as opposed to three separate movies where they throw stuff at the wall and see if it sticks. There was no end goal to seek aside from 'good guys win, bad guys lose'.

I have no idea why they thought that because the OT was made without a plan and miraculously worked, that the same miracle would bear fruit by doing it deliberately...like what even is going on?

Money.
We has it. They wants it.
Too many of they gets a say in how they try to get it. And too many of they are idiots who think we're all idiots.

[Slow Ben]

Still haven’t watched the new one. Still not going too.

Because fuck’em and their shitty movies, that’s why.




Yes I know no one asked for this opinion for the 317th time, but I’m still salty.

[QuickTidal]

Slow Ben, on 09 September 2020 - 05:58 PM, said:

Still haven’t watched the new one. Still not going too.

Because fuck’em and their shitty movies, that’s why.




Yes I know no one asked for this opinion for the 317th time, but I’m still salty.

I liked the 3rd movie, but I'd be kidding if I didn't also think it was a Frankenstein story trying to fix all the stuff wrong with the real culprit in the trilogy... which we both hate, and that's TLJ.

So I support your saltiness sir!

[HoosierDaddy]

But The Force Awakens was so good. And then Rogue One! And then... then... then!

[Coco with marshmallows]

QuickTidal, on 09 September 2020 - 03:52 PM, said:

This is the problem with the lack of planning the ST out as an actual trilogy, as opposed to three separate movies where they throw stuff at the wall and see if it sticks. There was no end goal to seek aside from 'good guys win, bad guys lose'.

I mean, Abrams HAD planned out an outline of a trilogy. Johnson ignored it all in TLJ, and we ended up with what we got.