[Path-Shaper]

Kalse confirms:

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keep it on kaschen...

sorry

- No problem.

The Killers decide:

Rash

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Gah my post disappeared. Oh well, better that than we keep posting at the exact same time

All right, who's being the most pushy in terms of cases, Shelly or D'riss maybe?

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I don't think it's particularly worth worrying about symps to be honest. It's too hard to try and figure them out.

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I've really got to go. I've got a 9 hour drive today and I've got to get going. You'll have to decide, I'm sorry.

Kasch

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that's ok KL, I'm going to try to strike true




EDIT: I have got to stop trying to play mafia & work

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Kill D'riss

I think he will be trouble to shake off if he gets wind of us.

-Confirmed.

So it looks like it will be a short game once the weekend is over after all.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 27 July 2012 - 11:36 PM

[Gust Hubb]

Well, at least I'm finally garnering attention. I feel like I make it through most of these games with few to no votes let alone full fury suspicion.

This is looking promising for town, and I wouldn't feel too bad about the guard Mottkins. As you said, you gave town a little boost, they just have to wait a little longer.

I'm really worried for our finder though.... I thought his adamancy on Liosan's innocence was suspicious. And even though it looks like he didn't do a find on Lio, I picked up a finder scent and backed off. Hopefully the killers won't catch the same thing. Hang in there Roldom!

[Gust Hubb]

The other thing that kills me is how HO and KL ended up as paired scum. I know it's random selection, but fucking a, talk about a scum duo I hate to see. Both of them are very slick at going unnoticed (at least by me), and really, I was getting scummy vibes from SL not Rash or Kasch (mainly because they are DAMN LOW POSTERS). Here's hoping other people don't overlook HO's non-existent play (I was just starting to wonder about Rash too for that matter...).

[Lady Bliss]

Gust Hubb, on 27 July 2012 - 11:57 PM, said:

The other thing that kills me is how HO and KL ended up as paired scum. I know it's random selection, but fucking a, talk about a scum duo I hate to see. Both of them are very slick at going unnoticed (at least by me), and really, I was getting scummy vibes from SL not Rash or Kasch (mainly because they are DAMN LOW POSTERS). Here's hoping other people don't overlook HO's non-existent play (I was just starting to wonder about Rash too for that matter...).

I agree, neither was hitting my radar, but I didn't get a chance to keep up with the game this time, work was just too overwhelming. This was the first game that I didn't want to lynch/kill you though Gusty and you didn't go after me.... clearly the game broke down from there.

[Gust Hubb]

Eloth, on 30 July 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

Everyone thinks we should lynch Rashan or Kaschan. Now we need to find out who's play is scummy. methinks its Rashan .

This is pure Shakespearian hilarity.

I'm going to yell at Tennes if he screws it up

[Gust Hubb]

Lady Bliss, on 30 July 2012 - 03:14 PM, said:

Gust Hubb, on 27 July 2012 - 11:57 PM, said:

The other thing that kills me is how HO and KL ended up as paired scum. I know it's random selection, but fucking a, talk about a scum duo I hate to see. Both of them are very slick at going unnoticed (at least by me), and really, I was getting scummy vibes from SL not Rash or Kasch (mainly because they are DAMN LOW POSTERS). Here's hoping other people don't overlook HO's non-existent play (I was just starting to wonder about Rash too for that matter...).

I agree, neither was hitting my radar, but I didn't get a chance to keep up with the game this time, work was just too overwhelming. This was the first game that I didn't want to lynch/kill you though Gusty and you didn't go after me.... clearly the game broke down from there.

Good thing I prevented the game from going downhill by hammering you

[Path-Shaper]

Tennes is now on a few lists of possible scum and Eloth is suspected finder:

Tellan

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Tennes and Telas? hmm..

and

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Shit, Eloth is the finder.

Telas:

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Oh, Eloth.

Dear god, I see people make these kinds of blatant missteps in their reasoning and immediately think they're scum. Of course, usually the scum is the one paying enough attention not to make these mistakes.

Clearly Tennes = killer. Must be.

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I started writing this then thought (though I hate how holey his argument is, what with all the strawmans and insinuations that tennes has no content (when eloth doesn't really have much either)...what if eloth is our finder?

#1 inno play right here: Sees "what do you make of these people" as "we should lynch these people."

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I'm still waiting for your case on Rashan other than "he has very few posts." The way you're posting it almost seems like you're trying to defend Tellan, Lio, or Kasch, since you've apparently written them off as inno, get defensive about people still being suspicious of them (I wonder why...), and seem more convinced Rashan is scum than anyone else

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But let's see:
--Out of the blue, attacks Rashan
--Then this bit:

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Tellan is not cleared in my mind but i'm sure the finder did a find on either him or Lio last night , and he is kind o' off my radar ATM.

As if he knows there's a finder in this game


Maybe he knows Rashan is scum?


Who knows? Maybe he did a find on Lio early, then did a find on Rashan last night? Although idk why a finder would pick Rashan over someone in the spotlight like Tellan or Kalse.






But goddamn, if he really is so sure he needs to build something that can convince us legitimately, or we can't exactly follow through. And if he waits one more day, then he has to reveal the next day since a finder reveal on d-day is way too suspect. I'll give it one more day before acting on this--I'm sure any killers will pick up on this, too, but I don't want to make it too obvious by bringing it up on thread.

I think Telas makes a good point here, the finder, not that Eloth is, needs to be considered and careful when trying to push a lynch in a certain direction but also needs to push the point by making a strong and competent case. It is going to be even more important here since he doesn't know which of his scum finds is the symp, if any, and if he gets that wrong on thread and they CF as inno, he will be lynched next.

[HoosierDaddy]

Path-Shaper, on 30 July 2012 - 07:34 PM, said:

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Tellan is not cleared in my mind but i'm sure the finder did a find on either him or Lio last night , and he is kind o' off my radar ATM.

As if he knows there's a finder in this game


I think Telas makes a good point here, the finder, not that Eloth is, needs to be considered and careful when trying to push a lynch in a certain direction but also needs to push the point by making a strong and competent case. It is going to be even more important here since he doesn't know which of his scum finds is the symp, if any, and if he gets that wrong on thread and they CF as inno, he will be lynched next.

Eh? Symp gets found as town in both finds and CFs. Unless you knowingly changed this from the norm seeing as it is your game and prerogative. Just thought I'd let you know.

I was curious as to why you said two scum had been found when he hadn't hit both killers.

This post has been edited by HoosierDaddy: 30 July 2012 - 10:02 PM

[Mott]

It was, in all honesty, a mistake, I wasn't thinking and didn't even catch my mistake for a bit. I decided though to just inform the finder that the scum would all CF as scum to them but the symp would still come up on thread, which might balance out the whole guard thing when it came to endgame since the finder would have to be more cautious about revealing and building cases.

I have been very remiss with all this, one of my relatives passed away last week and a family member was in a spot of bother, so I've been very distracted and preoccupied and this has all ended up quite a mess and no doubt there will be some angry players, I am very sorry I know people put time and effort into playing.

[HoosierDaddy]

Ok, just making sure you had addressed it with the pertinent players. It'll affect play a little bit, but could prove interesting if the Symp comes up first in a reveal lynch.

Sorry to hear about your loss. Hope things get better for you.

This post has been edited by HoosierDaddy: 30 July 2012 - 11:51 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Thanks HD.

KL has been traveling/ill for the last few days and informed me of it beforehand so I don't think low posting was a choice, more a byproduct.

Sorrit wants it on record that he doesn't kill like Tennes

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For the record, I so don't trust Tennes. Sorry Taps! Or whoever it is!

People are confused, understandably, after the reveal.

Tellan/JLV has got it:

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You didn't tell Kalse that symps are found as scum, did you?

SL

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um, given I'm a symp, I CF town, right? OTherwise, there's really no point in calling me a symp, is there?

IF Kalse is another symp, I will be quite upset.

-You will CF as town.

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well, Kalse decided to deflect off Kas and Rash by faking finder and wasting 2 lynches.

admirable, but stupid, because he got 2 symps offed in the process.

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unless Sorritt is also a symp.

"CFs FInder?" what kind of horseshit is that?

- Not exactly, I mean, this is all my fault and people are going to be fucking pissed. I've had the week from hell and have been all over the place. Really all things seem to coincide at the worst possible times.

SH is hyperbole

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oh no.
you told the finder i'm scum, didn't you?

Kalse

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dont expect to live but

find on sorrit

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so sl was the symp.,...hahahaha thats just lost us the game

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remove find

i just wanna check something first

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I say we lynch SL, as I believe this may be a play by Kalse to clear him. I find him the more suspicious of the pair anyway.

remove vote

Vote Sheltatha Lore

I think tellan is the other killer. and he used this post to switch from the killer to the symp

find on tellan

Telas

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Provisional: Guard Atrahal

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Guard Kaschan

Welp, this makes the reveal easy to test. Sorrit sounds nuts, he has to be the symp. Holey reasoning son.

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Kalse should be modkilled, even if he was lying. Quoting PMs is retarded gameplay and everything should be down to disallow it.

If Kalse was telling the truth, we should have no NK tonight, I reveal guard, gg.

If Kalse was lying then a scum just got modkilled.

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I have a feeling I will be NKed either tonight or tomorrow night. I'm a very safe NK target since I haven't been the subject of a whole lotta controversy.

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This is meta, but if night is taking this long to resolve I can venture a guess that we are missing a confirmed NA. Liosan is the only one iirc that hasn't been around recently to put in one...

[Path-Shaper]

Killers:

Kasch

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KL - where are you? This game is about to end for us.

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I'm sorry, I've been so freaking sick it's not funny. Catching up now.

Rash

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I'll post in a couple of hours, we post together too often as is it. Sorry, I messages Mott to tell her I wasn't going to be able to post much because I was sick but I should have told you and left a message on thread. It's been a really really shitty weekend.

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I'm going to point out that whoever it was made a case on Tellen which promptly got ignored again and that maybe there's something there. I don't really blame them to be honest, I feel bad that I've not been about to participate much at all this game

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If you've got some time check through Telas' posts and tell me what you think? I may have found our symp, which could be convenient to know.

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I'm thinking either Tennes or Sorrit for death tonight. What do you think?

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Hmm not Sorrit. He's not really posting sense. Tennes or Eloth maybe.

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Okay, finders finds are weird. Now if I could just figure out a way to throw Shelly under the bus instead of you, you'd be off the hook and we'd have a much better chance of winning the game...

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YES. I'll probably be lynched but you should be off the hook for the game. I don't understand what's happening with the find thing though Mottikins?

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Noooooooo elation goooonneee. Damn finding symps as well...

Kasch

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what the sweet hell is going on?

Rash

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I have no idea...

Kasch

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Kalse revealed as finder, saying I was scum, what about Shelly? Could Kalse be our symp making the power play with the assumption that since we were both taking some low poster heat, he would bus one of us in order to buy time? I have ot read to make sense of it, who do we need to kill?

I actually thought Telas might be roled from his play.

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If we try to kill Kalse, he may be healed. He could be pulling the trick I mentioned before. Would it confirm that I am scum? If his credibility is ruined, shouldn't he go next?

Tennes would be nice to get rid of, Sorrit too. Eloth seems less threatening.

Rash

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Nah, I don't think we have to worry about Sorrit. I say go Tennes. I'm not sure we have to worry about the healer, leaving him alive may help stir things up.

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If they lynch me, hopefully they'll think that the healer was trying to protect me and/Tellen. So we can still get something out of this.

Kasch

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Tennes has pointed at both of us, right? I would like to see him gone, but don't want to give credibility.

Didn't Eloth hint at being a finder before, and someone sort of acknowledged it?

[Gust Hubb]

Definitely a fascinating game. I like seeing how people react to new possibilities. Some good thinking outside the box happening down there.

[Gust Hubb]

Good game Ment, Tat's. Welcome home.

[Vengeance]

Mott, on 30 July 2012 - 11:31 PM, said:

It was, in all honesty, a mistake, I wasn't thinking and didn't even catch my mistake for a bit. I decided though to just inform the finder that the scum would all CF as scum to them but the symp would still come up on thread, which might balance out the whole guard thing when it came to endgame since the finder would have to be more cautious about revealing and building cases.

I have been very remiss with all this, one of my relatives passed away last week and a family member was in a spot of bother, so I've been very distracted and preoccupied and this has all ended up quite a mess and no doubt there will be some angry players, I am very sorry I know people put time and effort into playing.

Completely understandable. FYI if you had wished to have taken a bit off from modding you can always let this thread know and several of us would/can jump in. It has been done before.

[Tattersail_]

Good Game Mott. You certainly spiced things up in there.

It honestly doesn't matter, it has a better ending now than two finds night one and two turning out to capture scum. It's got to be 50/50 now whether town get them or not. You see it looks like Kalse was deflecting from Rashan, so once Kalse goes they might lynch Rashan. Only thing is Kaschan is cleared. Until the end of the game that is. I think this could go to the wire.

I enjoyed myself.

I never RP which was fun.

I hardly take notes and can see how helpful they can be.

Good game. I enjoyed it

[Path-Shaper]

Vengeance, on 31 July 2012 - 03:06 PM, said:

Mott, on 30 July 2012 - 11:31 PM, said:

It was, in all honesty, a mistake, I wasn't thinking and didn't even catch my mistake for a bit. I decided though to just inform the finder that the scum would all CF as scum to them but the symp would still come up on thread, which might balance out the whole guard thing when it came to endgame since the finder would have to be more cautious about revealing and building cases.

I have been very remiss with all this, one of my relatives passed away last week and a family member was in a spot of bother, so I've been very distracted and preoccupied and this has all ended up quite a mess and no doubt there will be some angry players, I am very sorry I know people put time and effort into playing.

Completely understandable. FYI if you had wished to have taken a bit off from modding you can always let this thread know and several of us would/can jump in. It has been done before.

Thank you Venge, I flail around trying to fix these things, digging deeper holes for myself. I think it would have been a good idea but I was just not thinking really.

[Path-Shaper]

Killer convo and Kill submit:

Kasch

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I'm going to get lynched after Kalse if I'm not lucky, better start making your plans to fly solo

I want to kill Tennes, but it would be obvious
I want to kill Eloth cause he may be a finder
Telas - he's in the middle
Kalse - leave him for the lynching
Sorrit - seems aggressive, if you thinks he too inconsistent, we can leave him (I think you've alted them)
Tellan - good candidate to takesome pressire off us, leave him
Lio - early suspect, but now just kind of there
Atrahal - quiet danger, maybe

quick thoughts - I need to get working???

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hope you feel better, looks like the wrong people were scum this time

Rash

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Funny I was thinking it would be being lynched next. Oh well, we'll see. Hopefully Kalse will get lynched. I also really want to kill Tennes, it might be worth it, we're both under pressure anyway, so maybe we should just go out on a limb.

Yeah, Sorrit is Brujah. He was doing well up until today, now he's lost it and I don't think he'll cool down again.

I'm happy to go with Tennes or Eloth

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Yeah we had bad luck. Oh well. I've been having fun anyway

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I haven't had enough time to play to have fun, this is stressful (must be worse because I'm scum) - this may be my last mafia game for a while because of work (that's the 3rd or 4th time I've sworn it off)

ok, here goes

P-S - We will Kill Tennes

Hope we can deal with the storm that comes after this.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Ideally the killers can convince them Kalse was deflecting off Tellan.


God, i hate finders. and given I was playing this game to draw a find, i'm somewhat unhappy.

[Gust Hubb]

Sheltatha Lore, on 31 July 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

Ideally the killers can convince them Kalse was deflecting off Tellan.


God, i hate finders. and given I was playing this game to draw a find, i'm somewhat unhappy.

Understandable. But you have to admit that this unintentional twist in the game has made it very interesting.